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What will Democrats do if they can't keep Trump from running in November?

They are doing unprecedented, underhanded things, to keep him out of the white house.

Will they do this to ALL Republican presidential candidates in the future? Will Republicans
follow suit and do it to Democrats?

I believe we are on a slippery slope.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Point of order. The Democrats are not doing anything to keep Trump off the ballot. The courts and justice system are. But Trump as the nominee is the best chance Democrats have of winning with Biden..😷
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Yes, we know, I have been hearing your bullschiff for 50 years, conservatives want to push grandma over a cliff and want dirty air and water
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 Hardly... I am actually an economic realist..So I follow the money. And here are three solutions to the problem from cheapest and simplest, to most expensive and complicated. (And this isnt going to win me any friends, but its economics, not personal)
First, Everyone reports to the Soylent Green vats the day after their seventieth birthday. No exceptions for anyone, no matter how poor, how rich or how special. (Even bone spurs isnt an excuse)
Second. Support the poor and less fortunate so that they can become self supporting and make a contribtion, even though that means taxing Bezos and Gates and making a lot of companies play fair and learning to compete fairly
Third (and most expensive.) Set up eclaves for the rich both physically and in the corporate word, so they are protected and let the poor starve to the point you have to deal with their chronic issues of poverty and crime, then create a climate of fear to keep them in line..That takes a lot of distraction and a lot of policing...And be sure you have someone else to blame for all the problems 😷.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 No. I was thinking the courts control the justice system. But looks like I was wrong. Trump got a bond reduction that was well out of order and more time than you or I would get..😷
carpediem · 61-69, M
Just look at how any third world dictator handles their political opposition and you'll see what the left has planned for Trump.
@Handfull1 Are you paying attention to Joe and his DOJ? They’ve gone after and detained and arrested/ incarcerated those who don’t bend to their will. Realize that.
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DailyFlash · 56-60, M
He's under multiple indictments with dozens of charges. He did that to himself.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@DailyFlash false courts. Wake up
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@DailyFlash tara reade yes
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@DogMan why can you not comprehend that’s[big][/big] your opinion? Or do you work in government and actually know facts that the public isn’t privy to?
You can see how desperate the dims are to keep Trump out of the race. But they'll only do this to republicans they can't control. They gave libby lip service to the Bush boys, Romney, McCain, etc. in order to create the illusion of partisanship, but they're all in the same globalist club. Trump is a true outsider who threatens their control. Their current tactic is lawfare. They used the George Floyd riots and covid for the 2020 election. I imagine they'll mobilize some of the illegals for 2024.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@BizSuitStacy I sometimes worry that China will release another virus if Trump is
elected, in order to help the Democrats again.
@DogMan they might. They caught us off guard with covid. I think talk of "the next pandemic" is more of a distraction, but ya never know.
@DogMan says [quote]There was NO victim, the banks did not give him special terms or interest rates. [/quote] WRONG!! lemme quote from the judge's decision:

p. 9:
In deciding to approve the credit facility, Haigh relied on Donald Trump’s 2011 SFC and assumed that the representations of value of the assets and liabilities were “broadly accurate.” TT 1009-1010; PX 330. The Deutsche Bank Credit Report’s “Financial Analysis” is based on numbers provided by the “family office” (here, the Trump Organization) and contains the same numbers represented in the SFC. PX 293; TT 1010-1013.

And p. 68:
The evidence adduced at trial makes clear that Deutsche Bank relied on the SFCs for the information to underwrite, approve, and maintain the credit facilities on Doral, Trump Chicago, and the Old Post Office. PX 293, PX 3041 at ¶¶ 452-54, 456-466, 476.

p. 75:
Defendants have argued vociferously throughout the trial that there can be no fraud as, they assert, that none of the banks or insurance companies relied on any of the alleged misrepresentations. The proponents of this theory posit that lenders demand complex statements of financial condition but then ignore them.

Lemme repeat that last item: [i][b] The proponents of this theory posit that lenders demand complex statements of financial condition but then ignore them.[/b][/i] As if banks didn't care about the financial condition of their borrowers, [i]RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT[/i]
@sree251 Nice evidence-free fairytale!

“... based upon the totality of the circumstances, we believe our advice to you to no longer rely upon those financial statements is appropriate.”
Feb 14, 2022 letter from Mazars
sree251 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote] Nice evidence-free fairytale! [/quote]

You want evidence? You want clear tracks that you can follow all the way to the Kingdom of Heaven? You are a failure as an American, the kind who will never make it to field officer in the CIA.
@sree251 [quote]You want evidence? [/quote]
You have accused a group of people of weaponizing the US system of justice to illegally prosecute Trump. In short, you have accused them of committing a crime on US soil.

Here in the US, we require evidence to substantiate accusations. You know, like the ten weeks of testimony and the 41 witnesses in this recent falsifying financial documents trial. [b][i]Evidence.[/i][/b] And you don't have it, you just have wild accusations.

Same thing with the "stolen election" claims - 61 court cases and 60 failed. Why? Trump had no evidence; just wild accusations. And that became clearer after the "cyber ninjas" recount and the Georgia recount, and the retractions of accusations by Meadows, Powell, Chesebro, etc.

No evidence, just wild accusations. SAD!
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
Nah, we done slipped, fell and smacked our collective heads already. It's the only thing explains why and how a demented traitor was ever allowed to take and stay in the Presidential office. Of course I think the start of most of the current chaos really came to a head in 2008 when a foreign national and his boyfriend were enthroned into the most powerful public office on Earth.

But I, and others like me, are just a conspiracy theorist according to those who instigated and perpetrated the rot.😌
@SlaveEt [quote]a foreign national and his boyfriend[/quote]
Well said
4meAndyou · F
The ONLY thing Trump and the Republicans can do is play by the actual rules...and allow the American people to witness the lawfare and incredible injustice perpetrated by the Democrat Socialists. And I hope and pray that the Supreme Court will bring some of the extreme left back to the Constitution, and remind them of what COUNTRY they are living in.

Once our nation SEES what their future will be like under these miserable cheats. then they can CHOOSE how they want their lives to be.
Bill1372 · 51-55, M
They are doing all they can. Using corrupt judges, prosecutors, and politicians. It’s all hands on deck because they know the illegal activities they are involved in right now trying to keep him out of office will more than likely land them in jail in a few years.

They keep encouraging their voters to run across the border so they can stay in power
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Vin53 · M
I don't care of you're GOP or Dem if you break the law you need to be brought to justice, full stop.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne And this was the photo.

@sunsporter1649 No, this was.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Dems will give illegals phony IDs and cash the drive them to the ppolling place
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 I think its really cool how the side that specializes in rigging the vote complains about the other side rigging the vote..😷
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@whowasthatmaskedman you must have just fallen from an egg yesterday
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 Wow! What a deeply thoughtful and intellectually challenging narrative. I am sure that works better in your first language..😷
Actually, we very much WANT Trump to run in November!

Speaking only for myself, I see Biden (with the support of an excellent staff) as a middling president and a very mediocre candidate. Since we're stuck with Biden as the Dem candidate, Trump will be the easiest republican for Biden to beat. Again, we very much WANT Trump to run in November.

[quote] I believe we are on a slippery slope.[/quote]
I believe you haven't been paying attention.

Trump brags about his secret documents on this 2021 recording. He had an aide (likely Margo Martin) using a laptop to record all his interviews, etc; this is one of those recordings. Campaign advisor Susie Wiles has been identified as one of the voices on the recording.

[media=https://youtu.be/wPyua_6ht9Y?t=39]

[i] “As president, I could have declassified, but now I can't.”

“All sorts of stuff – pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.” [/i]
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues No Bank makes terms based on the owners words.
@DogMan And I'm not making that claim. Banks DO make terms based on SFCs.

Among the documents Trump falsified were SFCs (Statements of Financial Condition). He did that partly by feeding false info to and concealing liabilities from his accounting firm, Mazars. That's why Mazars dumped Trump back in Feb 2022.

You aren't saying most developers lie to their accountants, are you??
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Like I said before, I will apologize if Trump loses his appeal.
Again.....will you if he wins?
PatKirby · M
They've tried everything but maybe this will work

PatKirby · M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout

Looks like Donna Brazile sporting her new tattoos.
AbbySvenz · F
Maybe don’t commit crimes before announcing your candidacy for office and you won’t face criminal trials during the election cycle?
DogMan · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz Are you talking about Biden?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@DogMan she must mean biden
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Adrift Great question. You don't seem to be adrift at all. 😉
graphite · 61-69, M
Democrats already have practiced what they see from their heroes like Putin, who used the Russian "justice system" to punish his archrival. Democrats have sunken America to that level.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-02-16/alexei-navalny-imprisoned-putin-critic-dies#:~:text=Russian%20opposition%20figure%20Alexei%20Navalny,He%20was%2047.

Excerpt: Russian opposition figure Alexei Navalny, who survived a near-fatal poisoning blamed on the Kremlin and wielded black humor and social-media savvy to battle President Vladimir Putin’s autocratic rule even from behind bars, died in prison Friday, Russia’s prison agency said. He was 47.
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
They will obviously lose. So, they will have to resort to every dirty trick they can possibly come up with to eke out a win
akindheart · 61-69, F
yes to all Reps but to a lesser degree. they are trying to keep Trump mired in legal fees and if that doesn't work in prison. if that doesn't work, they will steal the senate to block any progress he might do. had the reps believed Congress the first time when they had all 3 , things would have been a lot different
RageAgainstTheMachine · 36-40, M
He has done unprecedented, underhanded things, to keep himself in the white house; victim mentality absolutely.
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TexChik · F
They intend to impeach him if they take over the house
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@TexChik another Russian hoax
TexChik · F
@Patriot96 This time I read it's about the Ukraine
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@TexChik that is a fjb crime
PatKirby · M
Fight fair and square in which case they will lose in a TKO.
It's not new, just more open to the public. A lot of the stuff used to be behind closed doors. And yes it will continue. Why do you think there are Biden impeachment inquiries. It is the way of politics now. From both sides. And very little working across the aisle any more.
sree251 · 41-45, M
Are you proud to be American, Dogman? The US Presidential Election is like the UFC but dirtier, a lot dirtier.

Trump, on his way to the cage, has to deal with every Biden fan out to get him, including getting hurt by anyone who either hates him or can profit from tarnishing him.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@sree251 I believe the main stream media has polluted peoples minds with hate.

This is part of the fascism coming from the left. They are censoring and cancelling
people that do not think like them. And they are using government powers to destroy
people that do not think like them. Minorites are figuring this out, and leaving the
Democrats over it.
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They’ll have to suck it up and move on.
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
They will lay a big a egg
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DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
Will they do this to ALL?No,just the ones the deem dangerous to their plans.Should the Republicans do the same.?They should,but have proven too weak and supine to do what must be done.
exchrist · 31-35
Theyll survive. Its just a dangerous situation only post retirement age candidates. Sounds like a rigged boomer town. To me.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@basilfawlty89 good answer!
DogMan · 61-69, M
@basilfawlty89 Those Scandinavian countries have secure borders, and a vetting process
for legal immigration. Are you OK with that? They also require all physically and mentally
capable people to be productive. Are you OK with that? If you are OK with both of those
things, how about we implement them here in the U.S?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@DogMan I think most people would want that. Finding people to implement that is the tougher question. There’s often an ulterior motive in the US. Power, greed, etc. seems to prevail over morality and common sense!
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
This country will come to an end soon
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@DogMan I'm sorry we're too far gone.We're going to be Rome 2
DogMan · 61-69, M
@TheRascallyOne Well, you could be right, but I'm going to hope for the best.
@Bill1372 While we do CRT and DEI, the Chinese are doing CCC=Come, Coerce, Conquer
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Very slippery indeed.
Unprecedented? Yes. Underhanded? No. We leave the underhanded deeds for Mr. Trump. Then we prosecute.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
What makes you think he won’t run?
It makes good tv
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
What the Left has done to ALL SOCIETIES in the WEST, it should be payback time
DogMan · 61-69, M
@BohemianBoo So do you want a Monarchy like Norway? Trump would
like that. He would be King Trump. Lol
@DogMan [quote]So do you want a Monarchy like Norway?[/quote]

Countries like Norway and the UK are Monarchies in name only. In function, they're Republics.
Though I do think they should get rid of this "royal family" nonsense.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@Neman1622 Correct! Todays Democrats are FAR left of Bill Clinton and even Obama
in his first 4 years.
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carpediem · 61-69, M
@Neman1622 You love freedom? Just make sure you get to the polls and vote. Freedom is at risk as you've correctly observed.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@basilfawlty89 You have no idea what you are talking about. Please note that I DO want
the law applied to the POTUS, but as we can all see, the FBI, DOJ and others are currently
protecting him. I can only imagine that you do know who the current POTUS is, right?
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@basilfawlty89 Occam says that you should always believe the simple answer. And that
is that this administration ( not the entire government ) is doing everything they can to
keep Trump out of office.
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