I wonder why is this still happening

@nonsensiclesnail I dont think it has to define who you are. You have understanding shoulders here.

@nonsensiclesnail I'll shoulder you from your brokenness, I know my friend, and it's so easy to make her talk about who she loves.

@elafina I understand, however it is not the same if it deals with physical illnesses. Not being able to get out of bed or being unable to complete minimal tasks of daily life should be something to consider as serious as another disease, however the sufferers don´t disclose it for fear of being labeled and other people don´t know how to deal with the situation for lack of knowledge and information. It´s very troubling and frustrating.

@Underconstruction it is... You're right we don't talk much openly about it.
If I were to be totally honest, I'd say it's contagious and that's something that sets it into a taboo state.
Like AIDS, Hepatitis, Herpes and other diseases, depression is contagious too.

Let's face it and let's be open.

Now, I have said that, I have friends with AIDS, Hepatitis, Herpes and Depression.
Am I immune ? I'm loving my friends.
But knowing for my own depressive tendencies, I know I cannot fully take in another with depression.
I know there is a time and after that I need to move, because I am in danger to fall back .

Is this relatable?

Sometimes the opposite can happen, and a person with depression can activate things within me and heal me furthermore...

But if we want to treat it as a disease, then we should stop insisting that is perfectly fine, because it's not. Everyone's life is hard enough to be expected to take loads in of other people's lives.
So when you are having low thoughts, why spend time with someone who is most probably going to get you more down ?

It takes strong and healthy individuals to communicate with depressed people. I was helped by people who were strong in themselves and I don't blame those who were in their weakness and couldn't handle more...

Because what makes a depressed person ? Too much load at some point I believe. And this same depressed person can place a similar load to another person who is nearing depression and drag them down too.
I had way too many depressed friends.
I've lost a friend to suicide and I'm still feeling guilty for not being there.

It's not easy for others either to handle the depressed so let's not pretend any more that it is. It's a big load, many times bigger than physical diseases..

@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON the more I talk about them, the more honest and clear I'm getting with my narrations. I'll keep on exposing them, to get deeper into my self importance and deeper into my self love...
It's one way to go around it..

@elafina Therapy and journaling can help.

There is no going around it, you have to go through it.
Hey, Churchill said that.. His version is more honest, hence, painful and profound.

To reiterate: I understand what you mean 😊

@LunadelobosIAMTHEDRAGON yes I'm aware of that Churchill's quote. I was living by it for years. I prefer to be more gentle nowadays and take the long route around certain things,
protecting my peace.
More carefully choosing my battles. I'm rarely having them.
I prefer to think of myself more as a heart warrior now and centering into softness.

@AntisocialTroll Right. I agree.

@Underconstruction depression is NOT an illness. it is a by-product. And i didn't say any of these things that you and Really think i said. stop attacking people if you don't understand. This is exactly why you started this thread, right? but it seems you want to just argue with people about it. i have suffered from depression since i was 4. the people i have known in my life are also depressed an abnormal amount of time. it is usually caused by someone else's mental illness.

@Sojournersoul But would you mention the cause ? That´s the point I am trying to make. If it is the appendix or the flu , people have no problem disclosing it.

@Underconstruction I have no trouble disclosing anything about it but i get your point with most people.

@Sojournersoul Right.

@YMITheWayIM I completely agree. It´s isolating and frustrating.

@Ontheroad I absolutely agree.

@Northwest Problem is that in most cases friends or family members don´t know how to deal with it and instead challenge you to get better as if it were on purpose or dismiss it as something minor ,not ever close to a physical illness. That´s where the problem is for most sufferers and that´s where they prefer isolation or to deal with it in private as if in shame, with very sad consequences as we all know.

@Underconstruction Usually family wants you to get better, like today. I did not mean that your go to group should be your family, but you should have your own go to group, and only you know who that person or people are. Everyone else if going to create more anxiety that you don't need.

@itsok My question is why ?

@Underconstruction As you probably know there are a lot of feelings that come with depression and most of them are not good and even self-destructive

@StevetheSleeve I know but I think they can be exacerbated by the stigma they carry. It´s a very frustrating situation for all those who suffer it.

@Underconstruction Yes, very much so

@TheFragile Nowadays you can be more open about it to family members or close friends, but it is still something that is not openly mentioned as if it was a sign of weakness or embarrassment. Do you get my point ?

@Underconstruction I do. It's the stigma.

@OogieBoogie Beware of bombastic declarations 😆

@Really do you mean as in what i just posted or as in making them?

I have, in the last few years, been trying to curb what i spontaneously think and say.

And i truly think there is something to it.
Its not just philosophy, it has a root truth in psychology as well.

I see evidence of it in coworkers older than me: habits of behavior and thinking they cant even see they have.
The blamers
The complainers
The avoiders
The bullies
The wall flowers etc .

Traits we ingrain deeper every time we fall back on them 🤷
It worries me. I wonder what all of mine are .

@Vestorius It is something that normally wouldn´t happen to people with physical ailments, compassion and understanding is mostly a given , it´s not the same towards those with mental illness, it gets confused with sadness , tiredness, or just plain laziness and that is so cruel and uninformed.