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Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
Might just be the mood I am in today but if assisted suicide is ok for terminally ill people then why isn't it ok for some one terminally depressed?
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swirlie · 31-35
@Dainbramadge
The thing is, you cannot prove to a Physician that you are terminally depressed. Proving the illness through tangible means is what qualifies one for medically assisted euthanasia.
The thing is, you cannot prove to a Physician that you are terminally depressed. Proving the illness through tangible means is what qualifies one for medically assisted euthanasia.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@swirlie It has nothing to do with "Proof" of anything as much as intent.
How can one argue the right situation for suicide?
We are all dying and all will suffer in different degrees.
I'm not arguing for or against, just posing the question of when it's ok and who is qualified to say which is right.
How can one argue the right situation for suicide?
We are all dying and all will suffer in different degrees.
I'm not arguing for or against, just posing the question of when it's ok and who is qualified to say which is right.
swirlie · 31-35
@Dainbramadge
A medically assisted death is only legal (where permitted in the USA) if a certain criteria is met from the one seeking to be euthanized. That criteria is based on hard evidence, not emotional expression. That is why 'depression' regardless of how severe, doesn't qualify because depression cannot be conclusively proven to actually exist.
A medically assisted death is only legal (where permitted in the USA) if a certain criteria is met from the one seeking to be euthanized. That criteria is based on hard evidence, not emotional expression. That is why 'depression' regardless of how severe, doesn't qualify because depression cannot be conclusively proven to actually exist.
FreeorLonely · 51-55, F
I think it’s a good thing. Suffering when a person doesn’t have to is awful. I’ve cared for people with incurable diseases and there’s no humanity in making them lay in bed or a chair not being able to talk, move, eat, swallow, or breathe on their own.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
If you're suffering from a progressive, untreatable condition then i think it should be an option available to sufferers if they request it.
But i do dislike the idea of stopping eating or drinking as is (or certainly was) followed in some places.
But i do dislike the idea of stopping eating or drinking as is (or certainly was) followed in some places.
OriginalNedKelly · M
I am fully supportive, the family should have no say at all
I am understand family are concerned possibly over the estate
DNR - Do Nor Resuscitate
I am understand family are concerned possibly over the estate
DNR - Do Nor Resuscitate
exexec · 70-79, C
I support it with strict guidelines. Diane Rehm wrote an excellent book on the subject after dealing with her husband's struggle to find a way to die peacefully with Parkinson's Disease: "When My Time Comes: Conversations About Whether Those Who Are Dying Should Have the Right to Determine When Life Should End."
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HumanEarth · F
I am all for it. I watch my mother and uncle suffer horrible suffering and a slow painful death from MS and Parkinson. Near the end they were both practically begging to be killed so they didn't have to suffer any longer
If you can take you sick and dying pet to vet to be killed. Why can't you do it to humans? I'll tell you why.... It's because of money they make of you to keep you alive longer
If you can take you sick and dying pet to vet to be killed. Why can't you do it to humans? I'll tell you why.... It's because of money they make of you to keep you alive longer
Blondily · F
We put our pets to sleep so humans should be able to die with dignity too.
We have the right in my opinion.
We have the right in my opinion.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@Blondily Sadly, yes, the pharmas cannot patent cannabis by law, so they keep it prohibited.
Blondily · F
@NativePortlander1970 I thought it was by now because some doctors will prescribe it
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@Blondily It's only state by state while still being federally outlawed.
FoxyGoddess · 51-55, F
I believe in Death with Dignity laws and think it should be a right in every state. Today's healthcare will literally let people suffer or remain on medication to suppress pain until they naturally pass away. That is cruel and an unnecessary expense to the family.
Magenta · F
I am against it, personally. (And yes I've watched several suffer). It's basically murder dressed up as something else.
What others choose is on them, their own conscience.
And I see animals as different, as they don't have morality or a soul.
What others choose is on them, their own conscience.
And I see animals as different, as they don't have morality or a soul.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@Magenta So you would let people suffer in pain needlessly, gotcha.
Magenta · F
@NativePortlander1970 Don't put words in my mouth. You know that's not what I said. They can choose for themselves.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@Magenta Those ARE your words, you just choose not to admit it.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
I think it should be God who brings this life to an end. We have the medical knowledge to keep people comfortable.
swirlie · 31-35
@PatientlyWaiting25
Actually, we do not have medical knowledge to keep people comfortable, as evidenced by @MrAverage1965 describing how his mother endured excruciating pain from cancer in her last 4 months of life with none of that alleged "medical knowledge" being offered to her.
If that so-called "medical knowledge" you seem to be convinced is lying out there somewhere and made readily available to cancer patients whenever requested, then did it not cross your mind that suitable medication would have been prescribed to MrAverage's mother by her Physician if she were in state of intolerable pain and suffering?
We have the medical knowledge to keep people comfortable.
Actually, we do not have medical knowledge to keep people comfortable, as evidenced by @MrAverage1965 describing how his mother endured excruciating pain from cancer in her last 4 months of life with none of that alleged "medical knowledge" being offered to her.
If that so-called "medical knowledge" you seem to be convinced is lying out there somewhere and made readily available to cancer patients whenever requested, then did it not cross your mind that suitable medication would have been prescribed to MrAverage's mother by her Physician if she were in state of intolerable pain and suffering?
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@swirlie it's there but it may not be being used, that is a totally different issue to the rights and wrongs of euthanasia.
swirlie · 31-35
@PatientlyWaiting25
The rights and wrongs of euthanasia are not for evangelicals nor non-traditional medical practitioners to decide between.
It's between the person suffering the excruciating, incurable pain who decides, in consultation with their lawyer and their physician.
If that pain medication was available as previously described, it would have been used on the woman in question. The reason MrAverage's mother was begging for medically assisted death was because pain mediation specific to her illness is not available.
The rights and wrongs of euthanasia are not for evangelicals nor non-traditional medical practitioners to decide between.
It's between the person suffering the excruciating, incurable pain who decides, in consultation with their lawyer and their physician.
If that pain medication was available as previously described, it would have been used on the woman in question. The reason MrAverage's mother was begging for medically assisted death was because pain mediation specific to her illness is not available.
Lilymoon · F
I'm all for it and so grateful it is available in Canada
YoMomma ·
I used to think people were saying “youth in Asia” ..
i don't really think about it.. I'm not sure what i think about it .. obviously it’s bad to die but some people's lives are painful and if they have a condition that only medically gets worse.. who am i to judge them from escaping such “life” if it is more pain than happiness? But for other problems in life, people should try to live not die..
i don't really think about it.. I'm not sure what i think about it .. obviously it’s bad to die but some people's lives are painful and if they have a condition that only medically gets worse.. who am i to judge them from escaping such “life” if it is more pain than happiness? But for other problems in life, people should try to live not die..
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Personal decisions are an individual thing. And really shouldn't be up for debate at all.
This is a wide spectrum statement and covers multiple situations.
This is a wide spectrum statement and covers multiple situations.
AllAboutLaffs · 80-89, M
With the appropriate controls and safeguards .... and a terminal condition .... I fully support it.
I think it should be legal, at the same time I think it's insane how expensive it is, no doubt some maybe find it more accessible to find other means to end things on their own (at the risk that they may not succeed though, and perhaps end up in an even worse situation)
It's a bit sad to think it may well be cheaper to go get a gun at a pawn shop (assuming the person actually has physical mobility) that to have a medical professional ensure that you have a painless end as trauma-free as possible, (tens of thousands of dollars from what I recall the last time I checked)
It's a bit sad to think it may well be cheaper to go get a gun at a pawn shop (assuming the person actually has physical mobility) that to have a medical professional ensure that you have a painless end as trauma-free as possible, (tens of thousands of dollars from what I recall the last time I checked)
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ThirstenHowl
I think it should be legal, at the same time I think it's insane how expensive it is
If I had a dollar for everything in America that applies to, I could maybe afford one of those things.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
I wish you didn't have to be terminally ill to receive it.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@DearAmbellina2113 they’re following the same path as legal weed and gay marriage . Give it 2 years .
1. Decriminalize something that’s formerly illegal (weed , suicide, gay sex )
2. Allow terminally ill to use.
3. Allow non terminally ill to use (anxiety , insomnia , depression, ). Allow civil unions .
4. Allow general public to use. Allow marriage .
You’ll be legally allowed to self delete for whatever reason within 2 years . Govt may even pay you to do it . Like give 5k to next of kin.
1. Decriminalize something that’s formerly illegal (weed , suicide, gay sex )
2. Allow terminally ill to use.
3. Allow non terminally ill to use (anxiety , insomnia , depression, ). Allow civil unions .
4. Allow general public to use. Allow marriage .
You’ll be legally allowed to self delete for whatever reason within 2 years . Govt may even pay you to do it . Like give 5k to next of kin.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
We consider it an option in our pets, but so many people balk at doing it for a human. Do you not value people at least as much as your pets?
PinkMoon · 26-30, F
I'm pro it.
bijouxbroussard · F
Medically assisted suicide is preferable (in my opinion) as that is the person’s choice. Euthanasia might not be, and that’s a slippery slope.
justbob · 61-69, M
Just another way of saying murder. Same as abortion. End a human life but call it something else to try and keep the guilt and awfulness at arm's length.
Killing people is bad. What you call it does not change that.
Killing people is bad. What you call it does not change that.
OriginalNedKelly · M
@justbob When you are able to have an abortion let us no - unless you are in that position only a female has the consent
YMITheWayIM · 46-50, M
Yes.
JustNik · 51-55, F
It’s a kindness that should be an option. Stupid that we call it mercy for a pet and murder for a human. To force someone to suffer just to avoid offending someone else’s sensibilities is nothing but heartless cruelty.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Been there, done that. It works.
Alyosha · 36-40, M
I support it.
Hireath · 36-40, M
i dont know :(
If someone wants to die we should let them. No one should be forced to stay alive if they don’t want to.
Prettybratbi1tch · 26-30, F
What ya planning bot? 🧐
@Prettybratbi1tch It's an uprising.
Tumbleweed · F
I'm all for it
GnomeyGee · 41-45, M
Im all for it
NotLooking2Play · 100+, F
I am against it..
ExperienceDLT · M
Im not sure i cant really give an answer
swirlie · 31-35
@ExperienceDLT
...but you just gave 2 answers! Are you holding out on us?
...but you just gave 2 answers! Are you holding out on us?
faery · F
I'm in favor of it
SwampFlower · 31-35, F
It should be an option for invariably terminal illnesses.
Likestoenjoylife · 51-55, M
Not a fan of it !
Tracos · 51-55, M
I'm grateful I have the right to die when my time is up
FlowersInHerHair · 51-55, F
100% in favor of it
Adstar · 56-60, M
I believe it is Murder..
meggie · F
It is your choice, nobody else's.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@meggie that’s what I said . But they made me sign up for the draft , made me get shots to go to school , made me get a shot to keep my job . My body my choice is a fallacy.
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
Problems of improper personal interests can come into play when deciding for members of our own species.
Give people the choice. We call starving an animal to death "animal cruelty"... yet we are barbaric enough to insist that humans have no other option than to starve themselves to death. Why is that???
Bleak · 36-40, F
Not in favour of it.
SpectralMourning · 41-45, M
What's the copay/coinsurance?
In favour
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
It’s gunna follow the same timeline as medical weed. I see it being available to the general public in 3 years
swirlie · 31-35
It depends on what part of the world you live in whether Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) will be available as an option.
In Canada, MAiD is legal Nationwide and without individual Provincial restrictions from coast to coast.
In the USA, MAiD is legal in Several US States and DC, but is restricted to terminally ill, mentally competent adults and is ILLEGAL in most other States, with active euthanasia banned Nationwide.
In UK, MAiD is ILLEGAL all throughout Great Britain (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and is punishable by up to 14 years in prison for those who provide medically assisted death to terminally ill adults.
In Canada, MAiD is legal Nationwide and without individual Provincial restrictions from coast to coast.
In the USA, MAiD is legal in Several US States and DC, but is restricted to terminally ill, mentally competent adults and is ILLEGAL in most other States, with active euthanasia banned Nationwide.
In UK, MAiD is ILLEGAL all throughout Great Britain (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and is punishable by up to 14 years in prison for those who provide medically assisted death to terminally ill adults.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
Terminally ill ppl yes.
depressed ppl no
depressed ppl no
PatKirby · M
I think the euthinamerica are about as smart as the euthanasia. 🧠
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@PatKirby 🙄
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