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Why is there so much more hatred for trans women than trans men?

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TinyViolins · 36-40, M
Personally, I think the primary reason is just because of how much is socially expected of men.

Men are supposed to be providers and protectors. Builders, fixers, transporters, heavy-lifters, etc. Men often get stuck with the crucial, yet unglamorous and often thankless work needed to make society function.

During WW2, men who were conscientious objectors were publicly ridiculed, imprisoned, subject to medical experiments, or made to work hard labor and dangerous jobs without pay. They were treated with unequivocal hostility for refusing to kill.

A stay-at-home dad is going to get much more of a negative reaction than a stay-at-home mom despite doing the exact same thing. A man living with their parents at 25 or 30 is going to be seen as more of a loser than a woman in the same scenario.

According to my theory, the implicit assumption is that men are supposed to do more, so a biological man that transitions into a woman is going to be seen as someone skipping out on the responsibilities that come with being a man.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@TinyViolins I'm inclined to agree. I would also say that women have a lower status societally, so a man transitioning is seen as stepping down, whereas a woman transitioning is seen as stepping up.
TinyViolins · 36-40, M
@LordShadowfire Yeah, there's a heavy dose of patriarchy baked into our ideas of gender roles and norms.

I also think men are a lot more likely to be met with mistrust than women are, perhaps with good reason given crime figures. It would follow that a man transitioning into a woman is going to be met with a lot more suspicion of wrong-doing. I reckon a lot of that hatred must also come from people naturally perceiving biological men as more of threat
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Really? I haven't seen it. It's unfortunately mutual.

I have known both.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
I view it as odd in either direction. But, hate is an awfully strong word. I think few actually hate.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Adogslife I’d say more cringe than hate in most cases
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Female to male transitions generally turn out more passing than male to female transitions, so people don't recognize trans men as trans.
CougarLisa · 36-40, F
Personally, I don't hate the mentally ill. I do think there enablers are just as sick as they.
Wiseacre · F
Idk, I wasn’t aware.
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Wiseacre · F
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
There is no hatred. There is a push to accept and condone mental illness.
Let them be delusional as much as they want - I do not have to agree with them

Keep them out of female bathrooms and toilets
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Maybe men feel more threatened by the idea of males becoming females ?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
How come you never hear about trans men winning athletic competitions? Do they even bother competing?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire I just asked you to name a champ in any sport bc I’m hard pressed to think of any sporting competition where a trans man would excel . No shade
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@AthrillatheHunt And rather than just make you take my word for it, I provided a source. Here's another one.
https://www.insidehook.com/sports/trans-athletes-win-boys-sports
I don't just run my mouth and expect people to trust that I know what I'm talking about, and I hold other people to that same standard.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire it’s just that we hear women complain about sharing the winners podium w trans women and I’ve never heard a man complain about sharing the winners podium w a trans man . That would be pretty news worthy for certain politicians ro use as campaign fodder. That’s why I asked for a winners name and a sporting event
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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Captainjackass that’s the first time I’ve ever heard a man say attraction isn’t based on looks
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Women pretending they have penises is funny to most people . Men pretending they don’t have penises isn’t ?
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@smileylovesgaming I'm glad you started interacting with this thread again. You've made your point why you think trans women do receive hate (and apparently deserve it in your viewpoint). But you didn't address yet why trans men receive less hate, which was an equal part of the question in the original post. Do you care to complete your answer or did you just want to provide an example of the hate trans people receive without answering the question that was asked?
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@smileylovesgaming
so I guess u are perfectly fine with grow men in women sports.
Except that isn't happening.
Also men in women locker rooms completely naked and making everyone else in the room uncomfortable.
Also not happening.
Also how about teaching our young all about pronouns
Which is a part of grammar, yes.
instead of teaching them what they was actually hired to teach
You certainly have a funny way of spelling "in addition to".
SarahAndSamantha · 51-55, T
@smileylovesgaming
Also how about teaching our young all about pronouns

NO KIDDING! Heck, I hear they're even teaching them about prepositions and adverbs too!!!!
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Ferise1 · 46-50, M
Because it’s sicker
Wiseacre · F
@Ferise1 how so?

 
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