I like how Conservapedia lists George Orwell on their list of conservative authors
I think that entire website is just satire, yea?
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DrWatson · 70-79, M
It's been a long time since I have read Orwell.
But isn't Animal Farm a criticism of a socialist revolution that strove to make "all animals equal" but ended declaring that "some animals are more equal than others?"
And I do recall in 1984, that part of the propaganda that students saw in Big Brother's history books, was the depiction of evil capitalists as fat greedy men and how grateful we all should be that Big Brother has gotten rid of capitalists. The reader is not expected to sympathize with that depiction.
I am not sure if i would call Orwell conservative, but I think conservatives can find things in Orwell that they will like.
But isn't Animal Farm a criticism of a socialist revolution that strove to make "all animals equal" but ended declaring that "some animals are more equal than others?"
And I do recall in 1984, that part of the propaganda that students saw in Big Brother's history books, was the depiction of evil capitalists as fat greedy men and how grateful we all should be that Big Brother has gotten rid of capitalists. The reader is not expected to sympathize with that depiction.
I am not sure if i would call Orwell conservative, but I think conservatives can find things in Orwell that they will like.
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DrWatson · 70-79, M
@BohemianBoo Or perhaps that the original impetus for each of those movements was sincere, but that it soon got corrupted once individuals seized power.
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BohemianBoo · M
@DrWatson That's what a lot of Leftists say, but I have to disagree. The Bolsheviks didn't come to power democratically, they did so tyrannically. And the most important part of Socialism is Democracy. Plus, while Lenin did a lot of good things, he was still a dictator who ran an oppressive state. It's not like the USSR was established by Socialists and then it degenerated into Tankies, they were Tankies from the start.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Alison No, Orwell is a writer who appeals to many different political belief systems. You can't claim him as your own, otherwise you are just as ridiculous as those you seek to condemn.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@MalteseFalconPunch Oh no? Well perhaps I misunderstood the posters intent with this comment:
[quote]And if thats your best, yeah no wonder you steal everyone elses[/quote]
Seems to me she is claiming Orwell as her own, but perhaps that is not her intent.
Literature is art, and art is subjective.
Claiming Orwell only meant something that speaks to your political sensibilities is just as selfish and myopic as the conservatives you intend to defame with this post.
[quote]And if thats your best, yeah no wonder you steal everyone elses[/quote]
Seems to me she is claiming Orwell as her own, but perhaps that is not her intent.
Literature is art, and art is subjective.
Claiming Orwell only meant something that speaks to your political sensibilities is just as selfish and myopic as the conservatives you intend to defame with this post.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Thodsis Well for me, its nice to see Soros getting called out for his shit, the MSM certainly isn't going to do it. In fact, apparently they are strictly verboten to speak of him.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
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bijouxbroussard · F
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy Bite your tongue ! 😄
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DrWatson · 70-79, M
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy I teach at a college. I am liberal compared to the other members of my church and conservative compared to my colleagues at school. Judging from the national debates nowadays, I would classify myself as liberal, but I am sure I am not liberal enough for some people.
ElwoodBlues · M
What does Orwell himself say??
[quote][big] “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.”
— George Orwell[/big][/quote]
BTW, [i]Animal Farm[/i] and [i]Nineteen Eighty-Four[/i] were written in 1945 and 1949 respectively
[quote][big] “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.”
— George Orwell[/big][/quote]
BTW, [i]Animal Farm[/i] and [i]Nineteen Eighty-Four[/i] were written in 1945 and 1949 respectively
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@MalteseFalconPunch Honestly having read enough about this when I was young just seeing this kinda shit take over everything has been fascinating. Ideology like a wave that suffocates everything in its path.
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Straylight · 31-35, F
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ServantOfTheGoddess · 61-69, M
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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
Whole generation of conformists that love George Carlin?🤷🏻♂️🤔
It’s 🤡🌎
It’s 🤡🌎
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