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Absolutely if not more so!!

SW-User
Yes 🙌🏻 💯 I don’t believe taking pills will cure depression, it just puts a plaster on it.
Change how you see life, be grateful and get out in the fresh air, exercise and eat well.
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Reject · 26-30, M
@SW-User I know. I never felt you were trying to tell anyone what they shouldn’t do, more like advice because of what worked for you.

You know funny enough what you’re saying is exactly what my many psychiatrists told me. It’s their job to prescribe medication and even they said this won’t solve your problems or deal with the emotional side of why you have them. It’s meant to help in conjunction with a healthier lifestyle. You’re not supposed to take it forever, but they definitely won’t stop you if you try.

Still I didn’t want to take any and that wasn’t okay with them. They were pushed as needed and I’m sure there’s many reasons for why they did that, my clinical depression diagnosis being one of them, but it turns that wasn’t true for me. They weren’t needed. This is why I tend to avoid mental health services of any kind. Meds are almost always a part of it even in cases they don’t have to be. So yeah, they’re used too often.

If I believed them though. Something tells me I’d still be on medication to this day and I’d still be afraid of life without everything their science told me I needed.
SW-User
@Reject 💯 absolutely!! We are made to believe it’s normal to pop pills, we see it on movies, tv series, medical cabinet full of bottles, it’s not normal, the deeper issue needs to be addressed first, emotional needs looked into. Like I said it’s putting a plaster over the real deeper issues.
Pharmaceutical companies don’t want to cure you or they’d be out of business.
I’m glad you see it and got out of the cycle.
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@SW-User I agree. Although, easier said than done. I believe medications can be good for easing tensions whilst learning better practices, but should not be used as a substitute for them. That does just put a band-aid on it, making it harder to recover.
SW-User
Yes. And people need to understand that mental illness must be treated the same way physical illness is. It is called mental and not emotional illness for a reason. Your brain is nothing but an organ, just like your heart, liver, lungs and everything else that would cause you any physical illness. Mental illness is physical illness with symptoms that are expressed differently. Therefore, the "sadness" many people seem to think is the cause of depression should be treated/viewed as the result of it (a symptom). Your environment and experiences can and will definitely affect your mental health but it is still chemical imbalances we're talking about. And that's why both therapy and medication are equally important.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Can’t agree more @SW-User
Reject · 26-30, M
My mental health didn’t improve at all until I started with my physical health.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Once you start working on yourself, let’s say physically, you see the improvements and that helps you to feel better about yourself. That’s how mentally u feel better @Reject
Reject · 26-30, M
@VeganMoumita That’s true, but sometimes you won’t see the improvements you’re looking for. It’s very important in those moments to understand that getting better is not necessarily going to happen how you hoped it would. Work at your own pace and with enough time you’ll find out that’s still enough to get everything you needed.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
absolutely. So its better to keep your options open & don’t expect much. Keep with a clean slate to get better & follow the process how your coach/counsellor/psychiatrist is planning for you @Reject
Miram · 31-35, F
Everyone is a fictional scholar and knows fukk all about what they're saying, just echoing snippets that have been said hundreds of times.

"Pills don't cure"

No shiit, pills don't cure,they treat physical illnesses too. Don't cure.

Physical illnesses also require different treatments depending on the individual so obviously the same course of medication will not work for everybody in mental illness either.

And since the same thing doesn't work for everyone, that applies to life style changes. It would not work for everyone.

If people really cared what they're spouting they'd research it themselves instead of feeding that arrogant, hedonistic part of the brain that enjoys being right about something, at the expense of what's best for other people.

Lot of you here need get over yourselves before you end up being the reason someone commits suicide because you thought your facebook banners' wisdom of self delusional fù_ ckery is good enough to save them.

Talk when you sort out your lives.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
I guess you are in pain, if yes, then please release it. I’m not preaching anything, just sharing my own experience. Just trying to share my story 😊 @Miram
Miram · 31-35, F
@VeganMoumita

I didn't mean you. I meant people who were forming general statements trying to discredit the experiences of others, including @SW-User who downvoted my comment.

What works for one does not work for all.

They should wisen up.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Yes I understood & I also agree with you. We are too quick to form opinions & start passing judgements @Miram
Fantabulous · 46-50, F
My unpopular opinion...while I totally 100% get that mental health conditions are serious and that suffering from depression etc can be really debilitating, I feel like every second person barks up this tree these days and wants to call themselves depressed. Especially a lot of younger peeps.
So yes, one's mental health is definitely important, but for many everything gets blamed on your mental health these days.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
You are right. Somewhat I also feel the same that nowadays the younger generation are really careless and they take every single thing so deeply. Somewhat thanks to the social media and internet. They don’t know how to let things go. @Fantabulous
Unlearn · 41-45, M
It's more important. Mental issues have a bearing on physical health...
Rilyn · 31-35, F
Here it's out dated and if you find a good private professional you're lucky and on a more personal note, I pick my medical professionals privately. If I need emergencies there's hospital then you notify them who your professional is and I think things even out then.
We are a complex bioelectro-chemical organism.
Our bio mechanics are incredibly complex, and drive our mental and emotional states more than we fully understand yet.

We are just discovering that some species of bacteria in the bowel excrete neurotoxins, that our microbiome diversity and levels can affect hormones and chemical supply in the brain and so much more.

So id say that mental health can be severely affected by our physical state.

If doctors are helping people with mental and emotional problems by giving them medication to assimilate, then it only proves my point. How your body works or rather, how well it works, (or not) can affect the chemical levels and interactions it has.

So physical things like movement, exercise, digestion and breathing all play a part in our mental health.

And i imagine, that in the future we will undertand this better.

And that one solution is not always suited to everyone .
Some thrive on being vegan, some on high meat diets.
Some people need exertive exercise , while otjers do better on gentle.

So as important as mental health is, i think physical health is a priority starting point.

If a body is failing, its likely a mind will struggle too.

And sometimes its a vicious cycle. So vicious that often starting with the physical is better, becuase the mind needs healthy support first before any healing can start.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
so true. Completely agree with you @OogieBoogie
SW-User
Yes, it is important. It is connected to physical health, as others have said. I think mental health is only beginning to get the same kind of attention that physical health has always received.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Thanks for agreeing with me. This means a lot 😊 @SW-User
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
It's more important. Look at some people who suffered serious injuries and permanent damage to their body and yet roll forward no matter what. Some of them show such amazing willpower and achieve far more in life than those crippled with self-doubt and severe phobias.
Pinkstarburst · 51-55, F
Absolutely. It actually can affect physical health.
bugeye · 26-30, F
i feel it's important but also there's a group that nobody talks about and that's those that treat is like a fashions accessory. it's mostly teens but i swear if i see one more person bragging ( literally BRAGGING ) to their friends they have bipolar or depression for clout i'm gonna drop kick em into a padded room myself.
SW-User
@bugeye Yeesssss! The people who romanticise mental illness are the worst, probably worse than those who think they can treat it with essentiall oils. It's funny but also infuriating how these people will go mental if you tell them that self diagnosis is not a real form of diagnosis and that feeling sad does not mean you are depressed, keeping your room clean does not mean you have OCD and not being able to make your mind up does not mean you are bipolar.

And the one thing that pisses me off the most is young artists who promote this romanticisation of mental illness. I don't care how good their music is, I don't understand why we can't accept and admit that this is exactly how some of them became so successful.
I don't see anyone romanticise diabetes 🤷🏻‍♀️
Ontheroad · M
@bugeye Same thing goes for PTSD... sure it is real, but not every damn person alive has PTSD!
4meAndyou · F
There must be BALANCE first and foremost. Mind, body, and spirit. Without this balance, people will not thrive.

Doctors of homeopathic medicine, (unfortunately never covered on anyone's insurance), address ALL these elements, and even include the environment.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
I don’t know if you know about ayurveda. Just like homeopathy ayurveda also says the same, one needs to inline their mind, body and soul together for peace and growth in life @4meAndyou
More so. Although, one hand washes the other.
SW-User
Yup. Two sides of the same coin.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
Perhaps even more important
Lostpoet · M
I think they are one in the same.
TexChik · F
Without mental health, physical health begins to decline.
SW-User
Yes ,even more so
Gangstress · 41-45, F
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
these are the trigger points @ABCDEF7
ABCDEF7 · M
@VeganMoumita Yes, and I think they should not be ignored.
Bang5luts · M
I believe some mental health is actually misdiagnosed as being mental when usually they're has been proven the mental health issue was secondary to some sort of traumatic event or chemical imbalance which makes it an neurological issue rather than a mental one
@Bang5luts I think it makes it a spiritual issue (not religious) rather than a mental one. And yes, many issues ARE misdiagnosed.
Bang5luts · M
@PhoenixPhail absolutely 💯 I agree..
eMortal · M
Filtered information, physical exercise, Vit D, B1, B6 and B12 all combined have helped me alot.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
That’s really great. Thanks for sharing it here. Probably some can take notes from this 😊 @eMortal
SW-User
I think it's even more important because I believe physical health is all rooted in mental and emotional issues anyway.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Cannot agree more with you on this @SW-User
SW-User
Absolutely it is as important. Oftentimes if not more
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Thanks for agreeing with me. Would love to listen to your take on this. @SW-User
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SW-User
Yes if your mental health is bad your physical health can be greatly impacted. It's a symbiotic relationship
MarineBob · 56-60, M
for the most part it's a money grab
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Those who want to make it a money making business, you cannot help them. They will be the same no matter what u do & what u say @MarineBob
Wiseacre · F
Totally..mental and physical are connected!
SW-User
We can’t parse the two.
SW-User
Countless lives are born and raised into a man made reality that is insane. It's my opinion..
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Yes people are being raised in that way to prove they are right @SW-User
Mahesh · M
Absolutely.
Really · 80-89, M
Yes, of course.
FurryFace · 61-69, M
very much so
Jinxie · 51-55, F
SpaceJesus · 41-45
If not more. It needs to be studied a lot more than what it is
caccoon · 36-40
I think they are linked and a lot of the way the world is structured in developed areas really hinders our mental and physical health. But it is up to us to navigate that and figure ourselves out.

I very much believe in therapy, and without it I do very poorly because of my mental condition.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Ya therapy is really very helpful. Medication comes later. If therapies cannot help then meds are being prescribed by the psychiatrists to keep yourself calm and in control. But if you are starting with the therapies at the initial stage, it will do wonders for you @caccoon
SW-User
I think there is too much emphasis on it now.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Yes I do. I might have a bias seeing as I have OCD, ADHD and depression.
VeganMoumita · 36-40, F
Hope you are doing better now @basilfawlty89
DDonde · 31-35, M
And physical health influences mental health and vice versa
It's not like real disease. Theses people simply waste everything and all the resources they can access.
Absolutely it is. And they tend to affect each other.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
I'm agin it, dagnabit!
BlueVeins · 22-25
They only really work in tandem and fucking up either one sufficiently can kill you pretty fast.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
It is just as important but it is the one few people give a shit about.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
They are both equally as important. A chemical imbalance can’t always be treated by exercise, meditation or natural remedies. Medication is needed and why wouldn’t you take it? You would take meds for high cholesterol, high BP, diabetes, etc.

 
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