What’s your opinion about mental health?

@SW-User wow thanks I'm cured! Here's the thing, that isn't true of all disorders. I have a bipolar brother. If he's off his meds he goes either into psychotic mania or suicidal depression.

@basilfawlty89 obviously you didn’t mention bipolar, it’s different to depression, I still don’t think we should rely on meds, the pharmaceutical companies make you believe they cure it, I think they can make you worse, get addicted and have to keep taking them.

I’d be looking into more natural ways.
I’m sorry your brother has it.

@SW-User Please, shut up.

@SW-User pharmaceutical companies want to keep people sick, it’s a fact! 💰

@SW-User You have no idea what you're talking about, this is the only fact here.

@SW-User whatever 😁

@SW-User Not everyone is ready to understand where you're coming from... ignore them.

@Unlearn true!!

@SW-User I agree. You know I’ve been into multiple mental hospitals and even threatened with asylum at one point. Clinical depression was just one diagnosis I had. There was symptoms of bipolar too as these two things run in my family. Schizophrenia as well but that one was unique to me. Everyone always told me I had no choice but to take medication and there was no way to get better on my own. It took many years of discipline, but that’s what I did.

@Reject amazing!! So happy for you, I hope you feel better now.
the health system is set up that way. Sadly many don’t see it.

@SW-User Thanks! I feel better now than I ever have before. Being in those places teaches you about the corrupt role of psychiatric drugs and patients. The treatment we received is all the proof I need.

@Reject absolutely!! Doctors are trained to prescribe 💊.
My whole life anyone I’ve known that’s been on medication long term got Cancer, Alzheimer’s or other immune diseases.
Could be coincidence but it’s not natural to pump your body full of chemicals.
For that very reason, I don’t take anything, or try not to.

@SW-User Normally, I agree with you on quite a few things. Here I must respectfully disagree. While doctors and med companies do have insider deals, and certain meds are probably unnecessary, some people actually do need a chemical re-balance to function in society which can only be achieved through meds. Yes, some ailments can be overcome with exercise, diet and getting outside. There are many however, that cannot be. Back in the day, the people with the ones that couldn't be would be thrown in the asylum. Now we have meds to prevent that.

@ShadowWolf My psychiatrist, therapist, hospital staff, or just people in general. They all said very similar things to what you’re saying now. They said those things about me. Believing them, I never got any better. Believing in myself? I did. So I’m going to keep doing that. You do whatever works for you and I’m sure Fairydust is doing the same.

@Reject It's basic medical science. That's why.

@ShadowWolf Science is not absolute. Nothing is. That’s why there’s always more to learn about everything.

@SW-User you would prob change your tune if you or someone you love was truly struggling. Ever have depression so crippling it hurts to even move your eyes? Everything is exhausting and you are already defeated so why bother?

Sometimes meds are needed alongside natural remedies, at least until one is stabilized and not about to blow their fucking head off

@ShadowWolf thisssss

@Reject Science isn't absolute, by definition it never is. However, dismissing it all together sets us all back centuries. We do know that the brain is based around chemicals. And a balance of such chemicals. That's why caffeine works the way it does. Meds alter brain chemistry, just like natural caffeine does. Denying basic knowledge of how the brain has neurons, and works on a chemical level is akin to believing the earth is flat.

@ShadowWolf Okay. That’s a great straw man you’ve successfully knocked down. It’s a good thing I haven’t done any denial or dismissing of the evidence science provides. None of that means people need medication though. It can help if you’re lucky, that’s a big if by the way, but it does not solve the problem. That’s up to you.

@WaryWitchWandering That is the entire point of mental hospitals. Suicide prevention. To stabilize you. Sedate you with drugs so that you’re no longer any harm to yourself or others. The patients in there struggled so dearly they were removed from society. You’re not respected as a human being in those walls. You have no power or rights. You’re just another body that needs forceful injections if you don’t comply because you can’t live otherwise. I haven’t met a patient who liked being there or felt like they could get better on their own. Each and every one including me felt like we couldn’t do anything unless drugged because that’s what you’re taught.

@Reject whelp, I’m thankful I was prescribed my med the couple times I’ve really needed it. I’m currently weaned off of my Lexapro successfully. But back a bit over a year ago, I truly couldn’t handle shit. I would just pace and pace and pace and I felt so absolutely terrifyingly insane and down. I had postpartum depression (I have had clinical depression in past). My son was ill and allergic to milk protein. I didn’t sleep and hardly ate and all I could do was pace and I swear I couldn’t even blink my eyes without crippling pain or fear that blinking may cause the whole world to fall apart.

My kids need me, I went on the med I had used in the past during a bad depressive episode. It carried me through and I realized it was maybe not needed at this point…. But I don’t know where I would be right now had I not spoke up and got help and taken my med

@Reject it’s ok if people don’t like meds, and I agreed they are pushed too easily. But there are cases in which it is a useful tool when paired with working on oneself. I couldn’t even get out of my hole— the med just helped stop obsessing and panicking and falling to bits so I could fucking move with my feels and still get the shit done. Still be an active parent. I owe my kids the best version of myself, I’m still working on it

@WaryWitchWandering Yes, you’re one of fortunate ones who benefitted from medication. The trickiest part is getting someone out of that dark place mentally where they feel like they can’t, and I believe people just need proper help and guidance to know they can. Meds can help but ultimately it’s you who has to fix yourself. You never will thinking that you can rely on something else like drugs. That’s the danger here. No matter how much you change in the world around you (such as taking medication), if you don’t change yourself? You’ll always be the same.

@Reject I am by no means saying that meds are the remedy for all. However, if someone has bipolarity, schizo, or the many other disorders that are dangerous to themselves and others, they really should be on meds. For those, they need the re-balance the meds provide to function in society. For example, someone who is bipolar will not stop being bipolar because they went to therapy, or because they got some fresh air, or because they started playing basketball. They need meds to rebalance their brain. Have you ever seen someone with mania? Like real mania? I have. And it's crazy scary.... they need their levels re-balanced with meds... and I stand by that.