DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
Lab grown meat is perfectly fine and no worse for you than the trash you probably already eat. It is also going to drive down factory farms and improve the environment in the process (massive water pollution comes from industrial farms). Lab grown meat will also reduce rainforests being decimated for more livestock grazing.
It's a GOOD thing.
It's a GOOD thing.
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DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@Redstar as opposed to just letting the animals LIVE?? You're weird af.
Redstar · 36-40, M
@DearAmbellina2113 What's weird about it? We're already talking about eating meat, so what's weird about saying the animals shouldn't have to suffer for their whole lives? Like chickens trapped in tiny cages, barely able to move.
If you're a vegan or vegetarian, that's fine but a lot of people are going to continue eating meat and that's the topic here, so let's just focus on that for now.
We can at least both agree that there is obviously a problem with how animals are kept and treated. So I think improving those should be the priority. It definitely depends on where you look, though.
You mentioned factory farms before. I was talking about proper farms, family farms, where the conditions are actually not terrible. There's less of them now but they still exist.
I grew up in the country and the farmers in the area looked after their livestock, which had plenty of room to roam around. They're nothing like a factory/industrial farm.
There's certainly no sickening smell or animals getting infections from laying in their own shit all the time.
If you're a vegan or vegetarian, that's fine but a lot of people are going to continue eating meat and that's the topic here, so let's just focus on that for now.
We can at least both agree that there is obviously a problem with how animals are kept and treated. So I think improving those should be the priority. It definitely depends on where you look, though.
You mentioned factory farms before. I was talking about proper farms, family farms, where the conditions are actually not terrible. There's less of them now but they still exist.
I grew up in the country and the farmers in the area looked after their livestock, which had plenty of room to roam around. They're nothing like a factory/industrial farm.
There's certainly no sickening smell or animals getting infections from laying in their own shit all the time.
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Yep.. perfectly blue cloudless skies at sunrise.. then a plane flies over.. streaking.. then another.. and another.. and pretty soon.. BAM its a glummy, overcast day...
Soilent green here we come... genetically modified proteins to feed to people with jabbies to elevate the spikes even higher... 🔥🔥🔥 we need to stop sharing memes and articles people.. its time we actually did something about this...
These people cannot be allowed to continue getting away with open mass genocide. When are we going to organize?
These people cannot be allowed to continue getting away with open mass genocide. When are we going to organize?
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NerdyPotato · M
@TruthGate I figured you weren't interested in the truth. I'll save you the effort of blocking me by blocking you instead. Bye!
Welp.. another one bites the dust.. HEY!
Piper · 61-69, F
Bill Gates is just one of many individuals, governments and organizations who've granted large sums of money to lab-grown meat companies. While Gates has indeed bought many acres of this country's farmland, he owns roughly 0.03% of them.
Anything that has the potential to lessen the suffering and slaughter of many millions of sentient beings daily, for human consumption, is great to me. Also, the negative impact the meat industry currently has on the environment, in many ways.
Anything that has the potential to lessen the suffering and slaughter of many millions of sentient beings daily, for human consumption, is great to me. Also, the negative impact the meat industry currently has on the environment, in many ways.
ElwoodBlues · M
@AbbySvenz Wow, that really struck a nerve, earned you a downvote!!
Seems like some of the "end government regulation now" crowd actually want government to regulate lab grown meat out of existence. Heaven forfend that free market forces be allowed to determine the future of 'cultivated' meats.
Seems like some of the "end government regulation now" crowd actually want government to regulate lab grown meat out of existence. Heaven forfend that free market forces be allowed to determine the future of 'cultivated' meats.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
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@MartinTheFirst
They want to destroy us!
People need to start waking up and saying NO more! Too many asleep and think everything is normal 🙄
They want to destroy us!
People need to start waking up and saying NO more! Too many asleep and think everything is normal 🙄
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Module 2: Editing Food Using Synthetic Biology for Bondage and Occupation
https://shepherdsheart.life/blogs/news/module-2-editing-food-using-synthetic-biology-for-bondage-and-occupation
Our food supply is being dismantled on many different levels. You are seeing the train derailments, the manufacturing and processing plants being taken out, farmers not able to acquire what they need such as fertilizer for commercial farming, and restructuring the plants for different functions using:
• CRISPR
• DNA Reading
• DNA Writing
• DNA Silencing
• DNA Activation
What are the spiritual implications of Synthetic Biology in our food?
We will also be discussing how art plays a factor on the legality of changing the food you eat.
If food is not to eat, what are the new purposes of food?
See you today at Noon, Central Time with a LIVE Questions and Answer period after the presentation.
My humble thanks for your interest. Humanity is on the line.
Synthetic Biology Webinar Module 1 - RESTREAM FULL VERSION
https://rumble.com/v2odqg0-synthetic-biology-webinar-module-1-restream-full-version.html
Synthetic Biology Webinar Module 2
https://rumble.com/v2pngxo-synthetic-biology-webinar-module-2.html
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They are changing our DNA in so many ways, people don't realize that these leftist technocrats have an end goal which is a post human world. Using our GMO food, experimental vaccines, the wifi people use, the air we breathe and the water we drink to change our DNA, to make us sick and to eventually depopulate the earth and create a post-human world?
https://shepherdsheart.life/blogs/news/module-2-editing-food-using-synthetic-biology-for-bondage-and-occupation
Our food supply is being dismantled on many different levels. You are seeing the train derailments, the manufacturing and processing plants being taken out, farmers not able to acquire what they need such as fertilizer for commercial farming, and restructuring the plants for different functions using:
• CRISPR
• DNA Reading
• DNA Writing
• DNA Silencing
• DNA Activation
What are the spiritual implications of Synthetic Biology in our food?
We will also be discussing how art plays a factor on the legality of changing the food you eat.
If food is not to eat, what are the new purposes of food?
See you today at Noon, Central Time with a LIVE Questions and Answer period after the presentation.
My humble thanks for your interest. Humanity is on the line.
Synthetic Biology Webinar Module 1 - RESTREAM FULL VERSION
https://rumble.com/v2odqg0-synthetic-biology-webinar-module-1-restream-full-version.html
Synthetic Biology Webinar Module 2
https://rumble.com/v2pngxo-synthetic-biology-webinar-module-2.html
__________
They are changing our DNA in so many ways, people don't realize that these leftist technocrats have an end goal which is a post human world. Using our GMO food, experimental vaccines, the wifi people use, the air we breathe and the water we drink to change our DNA, to make us sick and to eventually depopulate the earth and create a post-human world?
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therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
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America is Fallen – What Do You Do? | Jonathan Cahn Sermon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmW4MtHM1ys&t=223s&pp=2AHfAZACAQ%3D%3D
“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
-Winston S. Churchill-
“Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.”
-Michael Ellner-
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
-Ronald Reagan-
@LadyGrace
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TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@littlemissdani Results, peopkeare having nowadays of those antibiotic things messing up human system. Now, with this new adventure, even a 1% alteration in the structure of a DNA would be too significant to look forward to.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
It's easy to search for and find fake conspiracy articles because they are all over the place. Take a step back from the internet searching and learn some scientific foundation then come back with a more critical mind. People are getting you riled up with hate and fear in order to push their politics and pad their pocketbooks.
Tminus6453 · M
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@SpiritualMan Provide even the merest, slightest shred of proof that this is happening, and then we'll talk🤣
SpiritualMan · M
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@SpiritualMan OK, you lost me at Bible prophesy..
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
If you have a genuine objection to synthetic chemicals beung added to your food, you would do better to avoid meat altogether (or at least meat obtained anywhere other than the farm gate) and grow your own vegetables. Better for the environment and arguably better for your health as well 🙂
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
SpiritualMan · M
@ElwoodBlues Ah no, if ethically raised and slaughtered animals are not sustainable with the current global population, then we are better off just eating mostly plants, and eating plants with enough protein to keep us healthy.
ElwoodBlues · M
@SpiritualMan US beef cows spend 1/3 of their lives on feedlots according to https://littlecreekmontana.shop/blogs/ranch-blog/food-for-thought-are-cattle-born-on-feedlots
Feedlots are where they stand ankle deep in manure and eat as much as they can. They are often injected with bovine growth hormones for faster weight gain. They are also regularly treated with antibiotics because standing in manure is so unhealthy.
Feedlots are what keep the costs of US beef down, and this helps hold down the cost of world beef. I'm guessing these practices don't fit your definition of "ethically raised." Anyway, it's in the context of feedlot beef that people are proposing vegetable based beef-like substitutes and lab grown meat.
I agree with you here 100% on that.
I'll add that I find vegetable based beef-like substitutes to be ethically and environmentally superior to most forms of beef. "Impossible" meats are based on soybeans + coconut oil. with small additions from other sources for flavor and texture. "Beyond" meat is based on a few peas and beans, again with small additions from other sources for texture and flavor. These other sources include bacteria modified to produce proteins similar to hemoglobin - this turns out to be a key flavor component of beef, and there are other flavor components manufactured similarly.
As long as the world has such a huge appetite for beef, I will consider vegetable based beef-like substitutes to be a good alternative in the marketplace.
Around 97% of cattle are finished at feedlots, where they typically spend four to six months eating grain (could be corn other grains and byproducts) to get "finished" (fattened) before slaughter.
Feedlots are where they stand ankle deep in manure and eat as much as they can. They are often injected with bovine growth hormones for faster weight gain. They are also regularly treated with antibiotics because standing in manure is so unhealthy.
Feedlots are what keep the costs of US beef down, and this helps hold down the cost of world beef. I'm guessing these practices don't fit your definition of "ethically raised." Anyway, it's in the context of feedlot beef that people are proposing vegetable based beef-like substitutes and lab grown meat.
I don't care if we force society to only get meat from humanely raised and humanely slaughtered animals and it is more difficult to eat meat more often because prices are higher, but regarding crops, I want humanity to eat crops grown in the ground or greenhouses indefinitely,
I agree with you here 100% on that.
I'll add that I find vegetable based beef-like substitutes to be ethically and environmentally superior to most forms of beef. "Impossible" meats are based on soybeans + coconut oil. with small additions from other sources for flavor and texture. "Beyond" meat is based on a few peas and beans, again with small additions from other sources for texture and flavor. These other sources include bacteria modified to produce proteins similar to hemoglobin - this turns out to be a key flavor component of beef, and there are other flavor components manufactured similarly.
As long as the world has such a huge appetite for beef, I will consider vegetable based beef-like substitutes to be a good alternative in the marketplace.
SpiritualMan · M
@ElwoodBlues Some of those fake meats aren't the healthiest but at least they have no saturated fats. If people eat more plants and less meats it is key to make sure we eat plants with complete proteins, or combinations.
NerdyPotato · M
Sarasmiles · 41-45
The process of lab-grown meat.
Just take a muscle cell from an animal and keep it super fed in a culture broth with nutrients and oxygen.
But it can not be an ordinary cell because of the telomere, you know, with each cell division, the chromosomes lose part of the telomere and when they run out the cell dies and the whole process of producing artificial meat is lost
It takes a muscle cell that multiplies on a large scale without losing telomeres, a type of cell that metastasizes in culture.
The muscle cancer cells are just what the industry needs to produce a lot of meat without the danger of the cells dying in the process.
Look on the bright side, you'll eat a tumor and be happy sheeple.
I don’t need cancer food in my body this way.
Just take a muscle cell from an animal and keep it super fed in a culture broth with nutrients and oxygen.
But it can not be an ordinary cell because of the telomere, you know, with each cell division, the chromosomes lose part of the telomere and when they run out the cell dies and the whole process of producing artificial meat is lost
It takes a muscle cell that multiplies on a large scale without losing telomeres, a type of cell that metastasizes in culture.
The muscle cancer cells are just what the industry needs to produce a lot of meat without the danger of the cells dying in the process.
Look on the bright side, you'll eat a tumor and be happy sheeple.
I don’t need cancer food in my body this way.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Sarasmiles Actually, it appears they apply an enzyme called telomerase that elongates the telomeres after each generational shortening. Once they stop applying telomerase, the cells have a normal lifetime.
Sarasmiles · 41-45
@ElwoodBlues
Researchers at Tufts University Center for Cellular Agriculture (TUCCA) have developed immortalized bovine muscle stem cells (iBSCs) that can grow rapidly and divide hundreds of times, and possibly indefinitely.
You can go to wiki to learn more about immortalized cell lines. If a cow’s muscle cell stops dying and keeps multiplying due to genetic alterations-we call that cancer.
Immortalized cell lines are cells that have been manipulated to proliferate indefinitely and can thus be cultured for long periods of time (Table 13.1). Immortalized cell lines are derived from a variety of sources that have chromosomal abnormalities or mutations that permit them to continually divide, such as tumors.
Researchers at Tufts University Center for Cellular Agriculture (TUCCA) have developed immortalized bovine muscle stem cells (iBSCs) that can grow rapidly and divide hundreds of times, and possibly indefinitely.
You can go to wiki to learn more about immortalized cell lines. If a cow’s muscle cell stops dying and keeps multiplying due to genetic alterations-we call that cancer.
Immortalized cell lines are cells that have been manipulated to proliferate indefinitely and can thus be cultured for long periods of time (Table 13.1). Immortalized cell lines are derived from a variety of sources that have chromosomal abnormalities or mutations that permit them to continually divide, such as tumors.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Sarasmiles Yes, I read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe immortalized cell lines generate their own telomerase, while the lab grown meats depend on external telomerease. Thus, If I understand correctly, the lab grown meats are NOT immortalized cell lines.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@Queendragonfly My opinion votes ⏬😡
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Burger lovers rejoice! Lab-grown meat is up to 25 times WORSE for the climate than beef, study claims
* One Dutch scientist says lab-grown meat will knock plant burgers off the shelves
* But a study says the industry could have a huge carbon footprint once it takes off
* READ MORE: British scientists are among those growing meat products in a lab
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12067409/Lab-grown-meat-25-times-WORSE-climate-beef.html
Lab-grown meat could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef
Analysis finds the carbon footprint of cultivated meat is likely to be higher than beef if current production methods are scaled up because they are still highly energy-intensive
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2372229-lab-grown-meat-could-be-25-times-worse-for-the-climate-than-beef/
Lab-Grown Meat Up To 25 Times Worse For The Environment Than Beef
Beefing up the production of cultured meat isn't feasible just yet.
https://www.iflscience.com/lab-grown-meat-up-to-25-times-worse-for-the-environment-than-beef-68859
Lab-grown meat could have a worse carbon footprint than animal agriculture, UC Davis study says
https://www.kcra.com/article/lab-grown-meat-could-have-a-worse-carbon-footprint-than-animal-agriculture-uc-davis-study-says/44096083
* One Dutch scientist says lab-grown meat will knock plant burgers off the shelves
* But a study says the industry could have a huge carbon footprint once it takes off
* READ MORE: British scientists are among those growing meat products in a lab
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12067409/Lab-grown-meat-25-times-WORSE-climate-beef.html
Lab-grown meat could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef
Analysis finds the carbon footprint of cultivated meat is likely to be higher than beef if current production methods are scaled up because they are still highly energy-intensive
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2372229-lab-grown-meat-could-be-25-times-worse-for-the-climate-than-beef/
Lab-Grown Meat Up To 25 Times Worse For The Environment Than Beef
Beefing up the production of cultured meat isn't feasible just yet.
https://www.iflscience.com/lab-grown-meat-up-to-25-times-worse-for-the-environment-than-beef-68859
Lab-grown meat could have a worse carbon footprint than animal agriculture, UC Davis study says
https://www.kcra.com/article/lab-grown-meat-could-have-a-worse-carbon-footprint-than-animal-agriculture-uc-davis-study-says/44096083
OogieBoogie · F
Oooh, the future is coming alive.
We always knew this was an eventuality.
What it will do ?
Who knows.
It'll prolly drive up the cost of real meat, to improve profits , but it won't improve the life of livestock sadly .
I get that it's a solution. But it's a solution to a problem we have had years to fix in other ways.
I think this is part of something bigger yet to come. That it's only a beginning.
Cool post , thanks for putting it up .
We always knew this was an eventuality.
What it will do ?
Who knows.
It'll prolly drive up the cost of real meat, to improve profits , but it won't improve the life of livestock sadly .
I get that it's a solution. But it's a solution to a problem we have had years to fix in other ways.
I think this is part of something bigger yet to come. That it's only a beginning.
Cool post , thanks for putting it up .
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
@SpiritualMan support your local butcher 🥩
SpiritualMan · M
@JesseInTX Is their meat well-sourced always? I tend to think it would be most of the time.
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UnderLockDown · M
@stratosranger How would you like your cell slurry prepared Sir? 😖😆
stratosranger · M
@UnderLockDown With a side of Fava beans and a nice Chianti
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@NerdyPotato I don't see how that could possibly be on the same level as a white lie, it sounds like propaganda to me nerdy...
NerdyPotato · M
@MartinTheFirst maybe not to you, but to many Christians, every sin has the same punishment.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@NerdyPotato well... I can't argue for other people's minds, i've only got my own and my personal experience with christian people 🤷
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
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Sarasmiles · 41-45
@11knaves11
Welcome.
Welcome.
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Chickie · F
I have been watching a lot of conspiracy videos to get an idea or see a different views on things and I found an article about some company trying to make lab grown meat, I don't see how people can support this when we have no idea how they are making the meat and before anyone stops yeah I know the food on the shelves aren't good for our bodies that's why I read label ingredients before I decided what to put into my body and plant-based fake meat is worse, it's more processed than the normal food you buy at stores but y'all ain't ready for the conversation.
It might be a step into pushing cannibalism, there's a video about how scientists found a way to melt the skin and muscles off of a dead body and use it for??? There's a video about it, if it's still out there I will later link it here. It might be tumor cells like you said.
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It might be a step into pushing cannibalism, there's a video about how scientists found a way to melt the skin and muscles off of a dead body and use it for??? There's a video about it, if it's still out there I will later link it here. It might be tumor cells like you said.
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Magenta · F
Nah. No distraction. It's been on the news and in the works. This isn't something that happened over night.
You won't catch me eating it. Yikes. Our beef is local raised pasture fed, all natural.
You won't catch me eating it. Yikes. Our beef is local raised pasture fed, all natural.
Magenta · F
Further more. If "they" truly have all this power, and have been playing around with all these tactics for YEARS mind you, then why piddle around with this petty nonsense. Send out something big do something that will truly alter whatever they are supposedly trying to alter. 🙄
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
I love meat, now it will be even better without bone chips and gristle in it
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand Not sure that's why I ask you 😂
But chemicals taste chemicals if not well hidden.
But chemicals taste chemicals if not well hidden.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@Queendragonfly For that matter it could be the sweetest ambrosia
Well that's not nothing is it? but I've had toxic chemicals that taste good so maybe the concern should be when you actually like what you're eating
Well that's not nothing is it? but I've had toxic chemicals that taste good so maybe the concern should be when you actually like what you're eating
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand Good point
UnderLockDown · M
That should combine well with all the other toxic crap we have to cope with.🤮
I will eat squab and squirrel before I consume fake meat. What about all the chemicals required to make it? What about proper maintenance on the equipment? Having watched other people make things, I have ZERO faith in this whole process!!
I will eat squab and squirrel before I consume fake meat. What about all the chemicals required to make it? What about proper maintenance on the equipment? Having watched other people make things, I have ZERO faith in this whole process!!
SpiritualMan · M
How much do yo trust lab grown meat?
UnderLockDown · M
@SpiritualMan Not the slightest bit!! People are stupid, disgusting, and lazy!
I'm not saying that to be generally mean and nasty, just I've seen how people can be if they don't recognize a direct connection to their own life being affected. Would you trust that the equipment was properly cleaned, every time? What if some yahoo doesn't pay attention to some small detail and the product makes it to market? Small details can have devastating results.
I'm not saying that to be generally mean and nasty, just I've seen how people can be if they don't recognize a direct connection to their own life being affected. Would you trust that the equipment was properly cleaned, every time? What if some yahoo doesn't pay attention to some small detail and the product makes it to market? Small details can have devastating results.
SpiritualMan · M
@UnderLockDown The more research I do into our food supply the more I am being finnicky on what I eat and from where.
HannahSky · F
And, the SWeeps that get in trouble get to try it first 🥩
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
Girl they’ve been pushing for that
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
As opposed to the tasty process of animals cramped in tiny areas, overfed and stuffed with antibiotics only to be fed a bolt to the head and then ripped apart, eviscerated and cut into tiny pieces?
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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@SpiritualMan I'm vegetarian. You're free to your religion, and I'm free to mine. I'm not a Christian and I believe the killing of sentient life is wrong.
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BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
Off topic ... cheers