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So what are the reasons for our loneliness?

I am trying to figure mine out...i mean i can see how i want humane contact, i ask people out and after sometime I don't want them. I find them either depressive, shallow, gossiping...I struggle to be my true self around others. I am not perfect either. And I am not thinking i am any superior...or am I thinking that? I find it hard to connect. It shouldn't be this way, we are supposed to be sharing our lives ❤️ I, we, shouldn't be living them alone..
SW-User
Deep meaningful friendships are created early on and cemented by time and experience. It becomes a problem to connect with people when we're older because we tend to come into our own and become comfortable in who we have developed into. We tend to no longer be willing to act different to impress others or accept other peoples nonsense.
PatKirby · M
@being

This here what you said is very telling, because this is who you really are. It appears that the problem may be that you've been trying to run away from yourself. Own yourself. Never be ashamed of who you are. People who do not accept you for exactly who you are are not your friends. Know that other people are also struggling with themselves. Do you know for a fact they don't accept you?

Growing into one's self is not easy, but there comes a time when you finally accept who you really are and learn to live with it. Be happy in your own skin. No one else is going to do it for you. Start with that.
being · 36-40, F
@PatKirby yes i have realized those that you tell me..i have taken huge steps, but it feels as if the ultimate step for me would be to move city. I feel as if i have ruined it here. Well not exactly as it sounds. Like as if it has been such a great learning environment, but now when old friends meet me, i am triggered, having a hard time to keep up with my new me.. Do you think that is an action of avoidance once more? I have "tied" myself on that ground, in this city, for years, telling myself i am not allowing me to run away again. Now i feel the urge to move again but i don't know is the circle closed or should i give it some more time? These aren't for you to answer, but for me, i am only sharing my thoughts..
Nevertheless..i find your text highly motivational and thank you for it 🤗🌹
PatKirby · M
@being

Things could be worse, but they're not. You be just fine.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
The assumption they’re shallow (as opposed to simply having different priorities/values/reasons ) compared to you is a superiority belief, yes. Hard to say about the depressive or gossiping part though. They might be objectively gossipy, depressive person or it’s possible you might be one of those people who uses toxic positivity as a coping mechanism for your own emotional difficulties that gets agitated by people who do not use that strategy. (I’m not making an observation about you, just discussing what might be a play interactionally)

In my experience, people who have a creative, philosophical and/or intellectual have a hard time peopling. I think it’s fair to say that the world has more pragmatic people in it than artsy/brainy, which can feel lonely when you were trying to connect with people in a very particular way. after a while I think a lot of us develop a bit of a snobbery to cope and then sometimes we need another artsy/brainy person/group then everyone pat themselves on the back for being so much better than those non-artsy/brainy people. This comes up in dating too. It’s so tempting to put up with unhealthy bullshit longer than we really should have because it’s challenging to find another artsy/brainy lovers that you can connect to you in that particular way. This amplifies the lonely feeling.


I think.. artsy/brainy people often struggle with feelings of disconnectedness, but in reality they aren’t open to meeting people where those persons are at. They are disappointing other people do not meet them where they are at. I think.. in order to feel more connected to others we have to be willing to genuinely be receptive to who they are, not be pissy that they aren’t the way we want them to be, which is to say, more like us. The other thing is that artsy/brainy people tend to be more quick to discuss vulnerable topics whereas more pragmatic people tend to need more time getting to know someone to have those sprinkled conversations because they are not accustomed to it or sometimes they don’t feel safe to open up so readily. My point is, just because someone isn’t talking about their latest creative epiphany or philosophical inkling doesn’t mean they don’t have creative, contemplative, or introspective moments to who they are.


(Sorry for the long post. I’ve given a lot of thought to this topic over the years when contemplating my own loneliness)
being · 36-40, F
@WhateverWorks thank you, that is very insightful, no sorry needed.. i just had stuff to do so i came back to read it.
I have noticed something about this superiority and snobbishness ..that's why i referred to those... I will try to keep that, to "meet others where they are at".. and see around that <3
WhateverWorks · 36-40
I think it helps to pay very close attention to when they are talking about things that make their eyes light up then ask questions about that topic 😊 most people are timid about sharing their passions for fear others will criticize them and make them feel bad for their enthusiasm, but they are very excited to share when the other person is interested/supportive. We may not necessarily be interested/relate to the topic itself, but we can bask in their passion/knowledge/experience etc @being
being · 36-40, F
@WhateverWorks ✨👀 okay, looking for the sparkle in their eyes, i like this, i feel it true and poetic too, thank you 🥰
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I feel lonely when I cannot connect to those around me. So outwardly I might appear to be social and involved, but inwardly I feel genuinely lonely. Sometimes the answer to loneliness is to withdraw and make do with your own company.
being · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl oh wow...thank you for sharing...i always get the impression that social people aren't keen with that feeling but i am seeing it superficially.. this for you -> ❤️
Working on my social skills, i am trying to work on those for years.., a friend once told me, after he's been observing my way of interactions, that i should try to "float" in conversations. Meaning, i can stay on the surface, talk to others and don't dive in any subject really, rather stay on a floating state of discussing .. is it maybe this that you find it difficult to connect, you aren't diving anywhere..?
As with everything, all are needed, the depth to explore and the surface to relax and breathe
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@being You're welcome 😊 I often find socialising at work to be contrived and quite tiring. I'm sensitive to people finding my awkwardness uncomfortable and that makes me even more awkward. I hate gossip and talking for the sake of it, I'm much happier when I've got something deeper to talk about 🙂 I'm not autustic, but I do have some of the character traits of my wife who has mild autism . . at least she doesn't have to pretend to be interested 😅 I wish people were a little more tolerant of alternative communication preferences and not be so quick to criticise and judge others x
SW-User
You seem like a very interesting person and your writing is relatable. But then you never responded to the PM's.
being · 36-40, F
@SW-User sorry for the laugh but you're spot on!.. This has to do with how i am using this site, i try to not stay long each time, so i haven't managed to find a way to engage in pm's and keep it short and enjoyable too....
SW-User
@being Swthrt it's okay if you don't do PM's. Just don't live your life in loneliness (referring to ur post). But if u find solace in aloneness then just accept and love yourself.
ABCDEF7 · M
Humans are in habit of living in couples and in groups from 30 million years. So we are wired to not live alone. It's very difficult to overcome that wiring as far as we are connected to our mind and emotions.

But as we connect more with our soul/consciousness we are not bound by our mind and emotions, and may prefer to live alone.

To find a right partner for you, Indian astrology suggests eight characteristics to match.
ABCDEF7 · M
@being The eight characteristics are like, Ego, Power equation, Sexual compatibility, temperament, health, love etc. And every characteristic has a weightage
being · 36-40, F
@ABCDEF7 thank you, that is so informative, i haven't heard of it. i know, i tend to pick incompatible people..but i think its just me being incompatible in general *sigh*
ABCDEF7 · M
@being It's not about one person being incompatible, it's about how how does you both are compatible with each other.
SW-User
Aw, it can be hard in these times to connect with meaning. And the shallow gossiping stuff is an instant turn off. That's a no for me.

Maybe keep some hope.
When you feel disconnected from people you wish to be close to.. then you are lonely..

Maybe if you think ill of others’ behavior.. you should tell them so they could improve themselves .. instead of silently disapproving and withdrawing
Judge em and ghost em eh?? You're a snob 😅 @being
being · 36-40, F
@SStarfish I haven't learned properly to discuss what's irritating me. I only do it with the ones being very very close, usually boyfriends and not just friends.. Failing to set my boundaries others are crossing them all over and i get exhausted and run. As you say, judge them and ghost them huh 🤦
Yeah.. me too 😅 but i don't feel lonely @being
SW-User
I feel like I am in a similar situation. I find myself somewhere in between people I cannot relate to and people I haven't come across yet.
Part of the reason I believe, for me, is that I am changing. My views are changing. I'm unable to express myself properly to be 'seen' or attract the right kind of people to me. So I find myself in a limbo.
being · 36-40, F
@SW-User it sounds like a similar situation..i'm at a changing point too.. We'll figure it out, but still loneliness will suck till then 😔
Pfuzylogic · M
This pandemic has really altered a lot.
Hard to socialize for me when I always have something to conceal me and I am not feeling safe.
being · 36-40, F
@Pfuzylogic you need to break free from this fear...or maybe from a part of it..? we all have fears..need to weight things between safety and freedom.. Here, take a cup of tea:) 🍵
Pfuzylogic · M
@being
I seriously don’t find it an irrational fear.
Chelsiegirl · 46-50, T
Im trans looking for a gf.. super hard to find
being · 36-40, F
@Chelsiegirl i can't even imagine...🤗 depends on the city you are living too..?
Chelsiegirl · 46-50, T
@being im in la cali... lol
I assume all people want to kill me so I don't even try anymore.
Simplegirlstory · 31-35, F
Because human beings are just a waste to expect anything from
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Simplegirlstory · 31-35, F
Because human beings are just waste
being · 36-40, F
@Simplegirlstory they aren't but relationships should be easier..they should be easier!
DDonde · 31-35, M
I don't know
being · 36-40, F
@DDonde yeah but we have our hints..
DDonde · 31-35, M
@being Hopefully we will understand ours
being · 36-40, F
@DDonde we are different but we are also very similar as a species.. many are searching so yeah we will come up with something 😌
SW-User
I found happiness when I stopped trying to connect

I had this idea of how many friends

Needing a partner

At some stage I realised that I don't get lonely
being · 36-40, F
@SW-User i have had my periods and i noticed that it comes and goes too...
I try to be a minimalist in heart..and satisfy my need for communication with anyone, i try to not expect to get connection from friends only or people who are close to me, even though it's easier with them..
Lilnonames · F
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funloving1 · 18-21, M
Just be the best you, you can be
being · 36-40, F
@Lilnonames nice...i will go there! :) but right now i have to confront my self, understand my whys and see if there's anything i can change... but eventually i am getting to your text <3 <3 <3
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being · 36-40, F
@SW-User i don't know about all women, but i can admit that what you say about them is true for me. I will take notes on that
There are too many addictions, television, smartphones, computers, drugs, gambling. All of these addictions remove the time it takes to truly care for someone.
.. i think i need to remove some more distractions, although i removed way too many the past years..but more.. and what truly matters will remain and reveal itself.

 
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