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What historical events would people say are fake news if the tinfoil hat/banjo crowd lived through them.

“That Hitler, he didn’t really invade Poland…”

Or “Columbus lied about a New World, it’s all water and sea monsters”
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
That Hitler ran away to Argentina.

The moon landings never happened.

That Jesus was a white dude (somehow)
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Again, it’s hilarious to me that an ancient Mars rock falling to Earth and then being discovered thousands of years later is completely unbelievable to you. And yet you believe in the ghost of a 2,000 year old dead man.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@QueenOfZaun What makes it believable to you? Serious question? Can you describe how it was determined to have come from Mars and not an asteroid or space rock from elsewhere. Please use your words in explaining it.
@hippyjoe1955 says [quote] The odds of that happening on film is so small as to be next to impossible.[/quote]
DEAD WRONG. As usual!!

[quote]How common are supernovas? Not very. Astronomers believe that about two or three supernovas occur each century in galaxies like our own Milky Way. Because the universe contains so many galaxies, astronomers observe a few hundred supernovas per year outside our galaxy.[/quote]

But you'll go on asserting that a supernova time lapse is yet another GiAnTt CoNsPiRaCy!!!!!!
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JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@MalteseFalconPunch All of prehistory and the history of the universe. Basically everything.
@hippyjoe1955 says [quote]Well leftists deny that Hitler was a socialist so there is that.[/quote] More bullllshit from dippyjoe!!

In Germany in the 1930s,
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Social Democrats;
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Socialists;
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Trade Unionists;
and the Nazis bitterly opposed the Communists.

When I say "bitterly opposed" it means the Nazis sent brownshirt thugs to disrupt rallies and fight in the streets against their political opponents. The Nazis were a reactionary party reacting against the left wing in Germany at the time. The Nazis built their platform on racism, nationalism, and fear of the foreign.
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Madgirl Sounds like you are conducting a self diagnosis but carry on. Remember socialism has a 100% failure rate. I bet you think that is because it just wasn't implemented right as the millions of dead victims will testify.
@hippyjoe1955 Think so?

@hippyjoe1955 says [quote]Prove any of the Bible wrong.[/quote]

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Does the Earth have four corners like the Bible says? Is the Earth truly a quadrilateral?? If so, where are these four alleged corners???

Isaiah 11:12 — And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Rev 7:1 — And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Rev 20:8 — And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Ezekiel 7:2 — Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
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Where exactly are these alleged corners?? They don't exist, right???

Does our spherical Earth have "ends"? If so, where??

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Proverbs 30:4 —
Who hath bound the waters in a garment?
Who hath established all the ends of the earth?

Job 37:3 — He directeth it under the whole heaven, And his lightning unto the ends of the earth.

If we're living on a sphere, we're never going to reach any "end of the Earth," are we??
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Admit it, dippyjoe - the Earth has neither ends nor corners.

It's also a LOT older than 6000 years!!
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues So you have never heard of NORTH SOUTH EAST and WEST? Too funny. If you understood languages and their colorations you would have a clue.
@hippyjoe1955 They are vectors, not corners!
Too funny!!!
@hippyjoe1955 asks [quote]How do you know how old the world is.[/quote] Because we can consult nature's CLOCKS!!

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Visit any limestone cave. Stalactites grow at a rate of about 1mm per 10 years. So a 10 meter stalactite has been growing about 100,000 years. And close examination of cross sections shows the year by year layering (where rainfall is seasonal). These stalactites can be found all over the world. The ages are corroborated by radiometric carbon dating.

Tree rings are clocks. The oldest living tree goes back about 4800 years. But wood from dead trees can contain records of volcanic events, thus extending the record back much farther.
[quote] Originally developed for climate science, the method is now an invaluable tool for archaeologists, who can track up to 13,000 years of history using tree ring chronologies for over 4,000 sites on six continents.[/quote]The ages are corroborated by radiometric carbon dating (establishing age by measuring ratios of radioactive vs stable isotopes).

Seasonal snowfall on glaciers accumulates to form countable layers. Greenland ice sheet layers can be counted back about 110,000 years. The ages are corroborated by radiometric dating. Other glaciers go back as far as 700,000 years, but on those the older data is mostly radiometric dating.

Salt flows from rocks into lakes and the ocean. If no salt left the ocean, that would give an age of 50 million to 70 million years. However, various geologic processes cause salt to leave the ocean at about the rate it's entering, so 50 million to 70 million years becomes a minimum estimate of the age of the earth.

Layering of sedimentary rocks - such as in the Grand Canyon - forms a series of clocks. These layers correspond to different stages in the evolution of life on the planet. The layers can be dated by positional order (bottom layer formed first), sedimentation rate, age of fossils found in the layer, and of course, radiometric dating. There are five main isotope pairs used for dating sedimentary rocks as well as the 'fissile track' method; you can read about it all here:
https://australian.museum/learn/minerals/shaping-earth/radioactive-dating/


Then there's all the fossils of extinct animals found in the rock layers. They're not exactly a clock, but they are an indicator of the vast amounts of time over which evolution occurs.

Of course outer space offers many clocks. Accumulation of craters on airless bodies like the Moon forms a clock. Shells of glowing gas left over from novas and supernovas form clocks (the Lambda Orionis Ring is about 1 million years old). The redshift of light from galaxies billions of light years away form clocks. The Hubble expansion of the universe forms a clock. The frequency shift of big bang radiation to form the cosmic microwave background is a clock.

No one clock is perfect, but they all corroborate each other pretty well, and they ALL give life FAR MORE than 6000 years to evolve.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@hippyjoe1955 Swing and a miss there, champ.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OggggO Says you. Nice try.
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]It is impossible to counter[/quote]
Only impossible for you, dude! But thanks for admitting that!!
"When a man has accumulated a sum of money within the law. . . the people no longer have any right to share in the earnings resulting from the accumulation."

~ John D. Rockefeller




https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-11-3-b-the-income-tax-amendment-most-thought-it-was-a-great-idea-in-1913.html
@MethDozer you're trying to tell me the fundamental changes of Laws at the time of the Ludlow massacre had no weight in the strikers position, and the states response was all manifested over 1 person, not the states lost revenue, along with the the nations demand.
MethDozer · M
@checkoutanytime No, Ibam saying that one company and John D Rockefeller hired a private "detective agency" and used their political leverage and funds to have the State send the National Guard to help them out. That's the system and whonit works for.


It ain't you, never was. Your quote by Rockefeller. He didn't mean you or me, he meant Robber Barons like him. Period
@MethDozer i understand that perspective, and whole heartedly disagree with it.
SageWanderer · 70-79, M
Pearl Harbor was an inside job, we never used an atomic bomb and the Interstates were built to move people to concentration camps easier.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
A round world is fake news... It's flat!
@DeWayfarer Even the Vatican eventually exonerated Galileo, but some folks [b]here[/b] have decided to stay ignorant.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@JimboSaturn fragile reality threatened?
It’s just an observation
Everything is starting to smell like bullshit.

TexChik · F
Man on the moon my *ss! 😂😉
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Well leftists deny that Hitler was a socialist so there is that. Of course they also deny the mass killings of Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot. etc. They seem to be lacking in education. They are the same crowd that denies the mass die off we are experiencing from the vaxes as well. Well that and the FACT that the virus is a creation of the American government.
@hippyjoe1955 If you knew [i]ANYTHING[/i] about the history of socialism in Europe in the 30s you wouldn't need to ask about the connections between socialism and unions,
[big]ROTFL!!![/big]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Why don't you go back in your vast knowledge of nazi history and tell me about how the unions worked to get Hitler elected. Yes Hitler later turned on them but then Hitler was also a nut. He formed an alliance with Stalin then attacked the Soviet Union. He made a pact with GB then reneged on that as well. That completely aside nazis were the workers party.
@hippyjoe1955 Which further emphasizes that Hitler hated unions and loved privately owned industry - the polar [i]opposite[/i] of a socialist!!!

You're unable to deal with the historical facts, LOL!!! All you do is throw insults - you lost, dude!!!
That religion spreads through peace and jihads and crusades never happened.
Elessar · 26-30, M
The Columbus one, definitely
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Brandon is president
The moon landing
Mandela's death
9/11
Trump's loss to Biden
Holocaust
Any suggestion our world isn't flat
COVID pandemic , vaccinations
Jesus - a mortal man, not the son of God
Flying machine? Hooks is with wires you know those circus dudes. I’m not even going to look
SW-User
Lol. It's pick and choose whatever historical event fits an agenda? Don't believe history unless it suits.
Moon landing
Even if its real by golly the martians done it first
The American revolution was not a revolution by American people.
PatKirby · M
Get, get, get, get down - 9/11 is a joke in your town.
calicuz · 51-55, M
The Moon Landing.
"The Sphinx isn't real!"
MethDozer · M
Circumnavigating the globe apparently.
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Ontheroad · M
@strongbow strongbow? Ha! mealy mouth, limp dicked little man is more like it. Denial of reality doesn't change anything you nazi POS.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@strongbow Wait. What????
You seriously think the holocaust was fake???
On what bases dose this thought stem from?
I heard of people like you but I thought it was a joke.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@strongbow Whos crying pussy send me your address and we can see who is a pussy

 
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