What historical events would people say are fake news if the tinfoil hat/banjo crowd lived through them.

@hippyjoe1955 hold up. Are you saying trump created the virus? He was president when it happened

And he pushed for vaccines

@Stargazer89 Are you saying Obama did not stop the gain of function research that Fauci was funding?

@hippyjoe1955 you said covid was created by the gov and it first started circulating in "19

That makes trump responsible since he was president

He's at fault for pushing vaccines but he did not create the virus. China did. Don't be anti American

@Stargazer89 Did you understand what I said about Obama? The research going into this virus has been going on for decades. Not exactly when it started but it certainly didn't start under Trump as Obama decreed that it must stop. Fauci didn't stop and simply moved the work to Wuhan. Do try to keep up. This has nothing to do with presidents. It has to do with rogue bureaucrats who simply ignore presidential orders.

@hippyjoe1955 https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/hitler-nazi-form-of-socialism-1932/

[quote]‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…[/quote]

@OggggO Son let me give you a clue. Mussolini and Hitler were both recognized as socialists by their socialist peers at the time. Both of them came to be reviled because they lost the war they started. Had not Eisenhower photographed the extermination camps it is likely that socialists like you would still be defending him. Once his evils became known the socialists posthumously converted him to some sort of right wing fanatic. Hitler would have rejected such nonsense as does anyone else who is aware of actual history and not the revisionist kind that you love to believe.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]Mussolini and Hitler were both recognized as socialists by their socialist peers at the time.[/quote]

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@OggggO Since you can't refute what is fact. Move on son. You are out of your league.

@hippyjoe1955 DUUUDE!!!

@ElwoodBlues So you don't know a thing about history or political philosophy. Just what I expected from you. You are on the side of Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot.

@hippyjoe1955 On May 2, 1933, Adolf Hitler’s storm troopers occupied all trade union headquarters across Germany, and union leaders were arrested and put in prison or concentration camps. Many were beaten and tortured. All of the unions’ funds – in other words, the workers’ money – were confiscated. Former union officials were put on blacklists, preventing them from finding work.

The Great Depression had spurred increased state ownership in most Western capitalist countries. This also took place in Germany during the last years of the Weimar Republic.[41] However, after the Nazis took power, industries were privatized en masse. Several banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, and more were privatized.[42] The Nazi government took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible.[43] State ownership was to be avoided unless it was absolutely necessary for rearmament or the war effort, and even in those cases "the Reich often insisted on the inclusion in the contract of an option clause according to which the private firm operating the plant was entitled to purchase it."[43]

Translation: Hitler hated unions and loved privately owned industry - the polar opposite of a socialist!!!

You're unable to deal with the historical facts, LOL!!! All you do is throw insults - you lost, dude!!!

@ElwoodBlues And that proves? Since when does being a socialist mean you are a unionist? You truly are not very bright are you? Very strange how you come up with these weird ideas.

@hippyjoe1955 If you knew ANYTHING about the history of socialism in Europe in the 30s you wouldn't need to ask about the connections between socialism and unions,
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@ElwoodBlues Obviously you know nothing about its history so there is that.

@hippyjoe1955 If you knew [i]ANYTHING[/i] about the history of socialism in Europe in the 30s you wouldn't need to ask about the connections between socialism and unions,
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@ElwoodBlues Why don't you go back in your vast knowledge of nazi history and tell me about how the unions worked to get Hitler elected. Yes Hitler later turned on them but then Hitler was also a nut. He formed an alliance with Stalin then attacked the Soviet Union. He made a pact with GB then reneged on that as well. That completely aside nazis were the workers party.

@hippyjoe1955 Which further emphasizes that Hitler hated unions and loved privately owned industry - the polar [i]opposite[/i] of a socialist!!!

You're unable to deal with the historical facts, LOL!!! All you do is throw insults - you lost, dude!!!