Bumbles · 51-55, M
Neither Iran or Israel are part of the United States.
mindstruggle · 31-35, F
I don’t usually engage in political posts, but I just want to say...any loss of life or escalation of violence is heartbreaking. No matter where it happens or who’s involved, it’s always civilians who suffer the most and that should never be ignored.
InfernoTouch · 41-45, M
I’m okay with it the current regime in Iran has caused decades of suffering, repression, and instability. A regime change is long overdue. Iran should return to a more modern, open society like it had during the days of the Shah, before the revolution turned it into a theocratic dictatorship. The Iranian people deserve freedom, dignity, and a future without fear
No matter where you stand politically, war and bombing always come at a devastating price for ordinary people families, children, and innocent civilians who have nothing to do with the decisions made by those in power. Whether in Tehran, Gaza, or Kyiv, the sound of bombs is trauma, not strategy. The lives lost or shattered by airstrikes can never be justified easily, and every human life deserves dignity and peace, regardless of nationality or politics
At the same time, Iran under the Islamic Republic — since the fall of the Shah in 1979 — has committed countless human rights abuses against its own people. What began as a revolution for freedom quickly turned into a regime built on fear, censorship, and brutality:
Women are forced to obey strict dress codes and face violence for protesting.
Dissidents, journalists, and activists are jailed, tortured, or executed.
LGBTQFNFIEH+ Iranians face extreme persecution, including state-sanctioned violence.
The regime funds proxy wars through groups like Hezbollah and backs instability across the Middle East.
Since 1979, Iran has been a central focus of U.S. foreign policy, across both Democratic and Republican administrations. Here's a bipartisan timeline that shows how deep and tense the relationship has been:
---
Democrats:
Barack Obama (2009–2017)
> “The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.”
— 2008 campaign speech
Obama signed the Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA) in 2015 to limit Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. It was controversial but aimed at diplomacy over conflict.
Joe Biden (2021–present)
Has tried to revive the JCPOA, but talks have stalled due to mistrust and Iran’s uranium enrichment. Meanwhile, Iran continues to fund militant groups and suppress dissent.
---
Republicans:
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989)
Called Iran part of the global threat of extremism. The Iran-Contra scandal revealed secret arms deals with Iran to fund rebels in Nicaragua, tarnishing his legacy.
George W. Bush (2001–2009)
> "Iran is part of an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world."
— 2002 State of the Union
After 9/11, Bush took a hardline stance, associating Iran with terrorism and nuclear ambitions.
Donald Trump (2017–2021)
> “The Iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions ever entered into.”
— 2018 announcement withdrawing from JCPOA
Trump imposed “maximum pressure” with crushing sanctions and ordered the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, a top Iranian general, which nearly sparked open war
No matter where you stand politically, war and bombing always come at a devastating price for ordinary people families, children, and innocent civilians who have nothing to do with the decisions made by those in power. Whether in Tehran, Gaza, or Kyiv, the sound of bombs is trauma, not strategy. The lives lost or shattered by airstrikes can never be justified easily, and every human life deserves dignity and peace, regardless of nationality or politics
At the same time, Iran under the Islamic Republic — since the fall of the Shah in 1979 — has committed countless human rights abuses against its own people. What began as a revolution for freedom quickly turned into a regime built on fear, censorship, and brutality:
Women are forced to obey strict dress codes and face violence for protesting.
Dissidents, journalists, and activists are jailed, tortured, or executed.
LGBTQFNFIEH+ Iranians face extreme persecution, including state-sanctioned violence.
The regime funds proxy wars through groups like Hezbollah and backs instability across the Middle East.
Since 1979, Iran has been a central focus of U.S. foreign policy, across both Democratic and Republican administrations. Here's a bipartisan timeline that shows how deep and tense the relationship has been:
---
Democrats:
Barack Obama (2009–2017)
> “The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.”
— 2008 campaign speech
Obama signed the Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA) in 2015 to limit Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. It was controversial but aimed at diplomacy over conflict.
Joe Biden (2021–present)
Has tried to revive the JCPOA, but talks have stalled due to mistrust and Iran’s uranium enrichment. Meanwhile, Iran continues to fund militant groups and suppress dissent.
---
Republicans:
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989)
Called Iran part of the global threat of extremism. The Iran-Contra scandal revealed secret arms deals with Iran to fund rebels in Nicaragua, tarnishing his legacy.
George W. Bush (2001–2009)
> "Iran is part of an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world."
— 2002 State of the Union
After 9/11, Bush took a hardline stance, associating Iran with terrorism and nuclear ambitions.
Donald Trump (2017–2021)
> “The Iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions ever entered into.”
— 2018 announcement withdrawing from JCPOA
Trump imposed “maximum pressure” with crushing sanctions and ordered the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, a top Iranian general, which nearly sparked open war
View 1 more replies »
InfernoTouch · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes You're asking why Iran shouldn’t have nukes if other countries do. Here's why: Iran is not just any country with nukes — it's a regime that has openly threatened to wipe other nations off the map, funds global terrorism, and violently suppresses its own people.
This isn’t about bias — it’s about behavior and intent. Let’s compare.
Let's look at Iran’s Track Record
1. State-Sponsored Terrorism
Iran has long supported terrorist groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad.
These groups have killed civilians across Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, and even Argentina.
2. Calls for Genocide
Iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened Israel’s existence.
> "Israel must be wiped off the map." – Former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
This isn’t defensive rhetoric — it's genocidal language.
3. Brutal Domestic Repression
Thousands of peaceful protesters have been arrested, tortured, or executed — especially after the 2009 Green Movement and again in 2022 following the murder of Mahsa Amini.
Women have been beaten in the streets for not wearing hijab. LGBTQHDBFIE+ people are hanged. Journalists vanish.
4. Nuclear Secrecy & Deception
Iran lied for years about its nuclear program, violating IAEA agreements.
Even under the JCPOA (Iran Deal), Iran hid parts of its program and later ramped up uranium enrichment to near-weapons-grade levels.
Let’s be clear: [b]nuclear weapons are dangerous no matter who has them[/b]. But context matters:
U.S., UK, France, India, Israel: All have functioning democracies (some more flawed than others), but they do not call for the annihilation of other countries as official policy.
North Korea is also a major concern — just like Iran — because it is authoritarian, erratic, and threatens nuclear strikes. That's why it's heavily sanctioned and diplomatically isolated.
Giving a theocratic dictatorship like Iran nuclear weapons isn’t balance — it’s inviting nuclear blackmail, escalation, and war in the most unstable region on Earth.
You say “just kill off the leaders.” That’s easier said than done.
Iran is one of the most tightly controlled police states in the world.
The IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) is a massive military-security force that crushes dissent violently.
Protests in 2022 led to hundreds of people killed and thousands arrested, many tortured.
The Iranian people have shown incredible courage, but they are outgunned and under surveillance. They need outside pressure and support — not just dismissive calls for a lone assassin.
There must be regime change, yes — but it has to come with international support, not reckless violence.
The world should work to empower the Iranian people, isolate the regime, and prevent it from ever having the tools to hold the world hostage.
Iran with a nuclear weapon isn't just a balance of power — it’s a loaded gun in the hands of a suicidal ideology. That’s not peace. That’s gambling with global survival. Same way to compare a cop having a gun vs a maniac.
This is why I mentioned the shah in my previous comment.
This isn’t about bias — it’s about behavior and intent. Let’s compare.
Let's look at Iran’s Track Record
1. State-Sponsored Terrorism
Iran has long supported terrorist groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad.
These groups have killed civilians across Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, and even Argentina.
2. Calls for Genocide
Iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened Israel’s existence.
> "Israel must be wiped off the map." – Former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
This isn’t defensive rhetoric — it's genocidal language.
3. Brutal Domestic Repression
Thousands of peaceful protesters have been arrested, tortured, or executed — especially after the 2009 Green Movement and again in 2022 following the murder of Mahsa Amini.
Women have been beaten in the streets for not wearing hijab. LGBTQHDBFIE+ people are hanged. Journalists vanish.
4. Nuclear Secrecy & Deception
Iran lied for years about its nuclear program, violating IAEA agreements.
Even under the JCPOA (Iran Deal), Iran hid parts of its program and later ramped up uranium enrichment to near-weapons-grade levels.
Let’s be clear: [b]nuclear weapons are dangerous no matter who has them[/b]. But context matters:
U.S., UK, France, India, Israel: All have functioning democracies (some more flawed than others), but they do not call for the annihilation of other countries as official policy.
North Korea is also a major concern — just like Iran — because it is authoritarian, erratic, and threatens nuclear strikes. That's why it's heavily sanctioned and diplomatically isolated.
Giving a theocratic dictatorship like Iran nuclear weapons isn’t balance — it’s inviting nuclear blackmail, escalation, and war in the most unstable region on Earth.
You say “just kill off the leaders.” That’s easier said than done.
Iran is one of the most tightly controlled police states in the world.
The IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) is a massive military-security force that crushes dissent violently.
Protests in 2022 led to hundreds of people killed and thousands arrested, many tortured.
The Iranian people have shown incredible courage, but they are outgunned and under surveillance. They need outside pressure and support — not just dismissive calls for a lone assassin.
There must be regime change, yes — but it has to come with international support, not reckless violence.
The world should work to empower the Iranian people, isolate the regime, and prevent it from ever having the tools to hold the world hostage.
Iran with a nuclear weapon isn't just a balance of power — it’s a loaded gun in the hands of a suicidal ideology. That’s not peace. That’s gambling with global survival. Same way to compare a cop having a gun vs a maniac.
This is why I mentioned the shah in my previous comment.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@InfernoTouch
The Zionists leaders say that they will gladly kill Jews in other countries to force the Jews to move to Israel. American presidents have routinely engaged in assination of foreign leaders. Both groups are terrorists.
The Zionists have repeatedly stated that they intent to purge the Levant of all non-Jews and to force the Jews in other countries to move there. They will soon attack the other countries in the area. What will you say when they attack Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt?
Israel got its nukes from America.
Iran treats its women like the original Christians treated theirs. If you were a real Christian you would follow what the biblical Christian doctrine says about this issue.
The head of the Iranian security agency could easily kill the Iranian leaders simply by wearing an explosive vest and setting it off in their presence. It's not that big of a deal if he really valued his country over his own life. Even the Nazis tried to kill Hitler. And Brutus did kill Ceasar.
Iran only needs a dozen large nukes and the guts to use them against Israel. That will solve the problem forever and fufill Zephaniah 1:2-3 (ERV) = "2 The Lord says, “I will destroy everything on earth.[a] 3 I will destroy all the people and all the animals. I will destroy the birds in the air and the fish in the sea. I will destroy the evil people and everything that makes them sin. I will remove all people from the earth.” This is what the Lord said."
Don't you want God's will to be done on Earth as it is in heaven?
This isn’t about bias — it’s about behavior and intent. Let’s compare.
The Zionists leaders say that they will gladly kill Jews in other countries to force the Jews to move to Israel. American presidents have routinely engaged in assination of foreign leaders. Both groups are terrorists.
The Zionists have repeatedly stated that they intent to purge the Levant of all non-Jews and to force the Jews in other countries to move there. They will soon attack the other countries in the area. What will you say when they attack Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt?
Israel got its nukes from America.
Iran treats its women like the original Christians treated theirs. If you were a real Christian you would follow what the biblical Christian doctrine says about this issue.
The head of the Iranian security agency could easily kill the Iranian leaders simply by wearing an explosive vest and setting it off in their presence. It's not that big of a deal if he really valued his country over his own life. Even the Nazis tried to kill Hitler. And Brutus did kill Ceasar.
Iran only needs a dozen large nukes and the guts to use them against Israel. That will solve the problem forever and fufill Zephaniah 1:2-3 (ERV) = "2 The Lord says, “I will destroy everything on earth.[a] 3 I will destroy all the people and all the animals. I will destroy the birds in the air and the fish in the sea. I will destroy the evil people and everything that makes them sin. I will remove all people from the earth.” This is what the Lord said."
Don't you want God's will to be done on Earth as it is in heaven?
InfernoTouch · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes It’s clear we’re operating from completely different frameworks—not just in how we view the world, but in how we interpret facts, history, bible and basic morality. Thanks for the chat hope you have a good day
greensnacks · F
War (especially an offensive one) is one of the cruelest things a group of people can do. I don't care about the excuses they paint to themselves and the world and justifications. It's 2025 not the stone age. We have conversations, sanctions, high tech and so many tools at our disposal to solve issues.
War is NEVER A SOLUTION.
War is NEVER A SOLUTION.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Devil's advocate to Devil's advocate... Hitler kind of started the war, so I'm not sure if he makes a good example.
bijouxbroussard · F
@ViciDraco Even so, it was the only solution in stopping him.
greensnacks · F
@bijouxbroussard I don't think it's the only solution. There are secret agents that can go and easily make an assassination of the leader. The rest can follow. Targeted, strategical eliminations without any civil life taken.
I understand using violence to defend yourself, yes. But to go and make a full blown war with civilian deaths or nuke cities, no. Especially nowadays when people can be cyborgs almost with all the tech they have.
They can do a surgical move, but wars bring money.
They have since the dawn of man. Looting, resources, treasures, people becoming chiefs, leaders, their clans becoming richer and stronger...
It's the same shit today. War = money. That's why the "strongest" countries are the one with the most military budgets and bases around the world. The biggest bully wins
Oh and another thing. When the people deciding that it's okay to go to war and voting on it(idk how all that goes) actually go to fight in said wars, then it would be 0.000000001% better. Not sitting in warm safe rooms while sending someone's children to die recklessly.
I understand using violence to defend yourself, yes. But to go and make a full blown war with civilian deaths or nuke cities, no. Especially nowadays when people can be cyborgs almost with all the tech they have.
They can do a surgical move, but wars bring money.
They have since the dawn of man. Looting, resources, treasures, people becoming chiefs, leaders, their clans becoming richer and stronger...
It's the same shit today. War = money. That's why the "strongest" countries are the one with the most military budgets and bases around the world. The biggest bully wins
Oh and another thing. When the people deciding that it's okay to go to war and voting on it(idk how all that goes) actually go to fight in said wars, then it would be 0.000000001% better. Not sitting in warm safe rooms while sending someone's children to die recklessly.
ElwoodBlues · M
Big mistake from the guy who kept promising peace and America First.

OOPS

Where is Iran's missing 880lbs of uranium? Ayatollah may have moved enough to build nukes before Trump struck
Senior Trump administration officials conceded they do not know the fate of Iran's 880 pounds of near-bomb-grade uranium, which appears to have been moved ahead of the American airstrike.
'We are going to work in the coming weeks to ensure that we do something with that fuel and that's one of the things that we're going to have conversations with the Iranians about,' Vice President JD Vance told ABC's This Week on Sunday.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme leader of Iran, claims he moved the country's uranium stockpile to a secret location before President Donald Trump's attack on three nuclear sites, Iranian state media reported.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14839869/Where-Irans-missing-880lbs-uranium.htmlSenior Trump administration officials conceded they do not know the fate of Iran's 880 pounds of near-bomb-grade uranium, which appears to have been moved ahead of the American airstrike.
'We are going to work in the coming weeks to ensure that we do something with that fuel and that's one of the things that we're going to have conversations with the Iranians about,' Vice President JD Vance told ABC's This Week on Sunday.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme leader of Iran, claims he moved the country's uranium stockpile to a secret location before President Donald Trump's attack on three nuclear sites, Iranian state media reported.
OOPS
4meAndyou · F
I am tickled pink. ONLY URANIUM STORAGE AND ENRICHMENT SITES WERE BOMBED.
The USA DID NOT BOMB CIVILIANS.
UNLIKE WHAT IRAN IS DOING IN ISRAEL.
The USA DID NOT BOMB CIVILIANS.
UNLIKE WHAT IRAN IS DOING IN ISRAEL.
ABCDEF7 · M
Similar when Israel was bombed, similar when Ukraine was bombed, similar when I came to know Japan was bombed. That is bad . Bad for humans and humanity.
BizSuitStacy · M
Good. It was a strategic military strike on a nuclear facility. No civilians were targeted.
meJess · F
Unfortunately necessary.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
So far it has worked. Apparently there is a cease fire between Isreal and Iran
Musicman · 61-69, M
I'm not in favor of the US bombing anyone, but Iran has no business having nuclear capabilities. That is just beyond dangerous. They thought at 300 feet down in a reinforced bunker they were safe. Trump showed them otherwise. It seems to have achieved two goals. Their nuclear program is temporarily scrapped and they now want peace.
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
BizSuitStacy · M
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
It got results.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
I'm afraid to say anything don't wanna p!ss off the wrong people. 🤐
TurtlePink · 22-25, F
Uncalled for. Imagine all those innocent families 😔
This message was deleted by its author.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Magenta News sources in Iran have published photos of civilian buildings in Teheran struck by Israeli bombs. And Iran, aligning itself with Gaza, has hit at least two hospitals in Israel, justifying itself via the 30 or so Palestinian hospitals hit by Israel.
Yes, we only hit hard targets in Iran, but we've aligned ourselves with a nation that hits soft targets, so who knows how Iran will choose American targets. P.S. this morning, tRump is already complaining about the cease-fire violations by Israel & Iran.
Yes, we only hit hard targets in Iran, but we've aligned ourselves with a nation that hits soft targets, so who knows how Iran will choose American targets. P.S. this morning, tRump is already complaining about the cease-fire violations by Israel & Iran.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
Apprehensive.
🤔
🤔
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
There is no end to this.
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
As long as we have nations and politicians, there will be war. Its been like this for thousands of years. Its not new.
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego im not saying its necessary. Im saying humans are violent not by nature but because we follow the ideologies of people who shouldnt be in power.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@GuyWithOpinions that's called the "realist view" among mainstream students of the West. But it's one hundred eighty degrees opposed to the mainstream views of the majority of people. It's not considered normal for humans anywhere outside the right wing half of Western humanity. The so called brutal billion believes that they can only have peace through deterrence, by which they mean through controlling everyone with threats and bribes. That's not normal for most people. That's why they are forming BRICS.
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
SpaceJesus · 41-45
I'm sick of all the fighting.
gregloa · 61-69, M
How do you feel about Iran not being able to produce a nuclear weapon?
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
Punches · 46-50, F
Just the stunt of the week. By Saturday, there will be some other big scandal coming out of Washington.
so far - remove trans rights, women's right, riots in LA, annex Canada, rename the gulf of mexico, turn Gaza into a vacation land, deport immigrants to an El Salvador prison, vandalize Tesla trucks, something about Musk arguing with trump, annex Greenland, the trump parade, Iran bombing,
Probably other scandals
so far - remove trans rights, women's right, riots in LA, annex Canada, rename the gulf of mexico, turn Gaza into a vacation land, deport immigrants to an El Salvador prison, vandalize Tesla trucks, something about Musk arguing with trump, annex Greenland, the trump parade, Iran bombing,
Probably other scandals
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
They got bombed harder then Trump at his own parade
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
Should be an investigation why they got so far along and with what money…
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout thats easy. Kilary sold 20% of our uranium to Russia who then sold it to Iran.
Bathhouse Barry fananced it with over 1.7 billion in cash ( which no one in congress approved).
Barry the cut a treaty which was unverifiable. Biden did nothing.
Bathhouse Barry fananced it with over 1.7 billion in cash ( which no one in congress approved).
Barry the cut a treaty which was unverifiable. Biden did nothing.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
@Patriot96 im betting barry and john kerry arnt sleeping well lately :) 🍿
It makes me feel sorry for Americans in general. Now, Americans will not be able to travel to anywhere in Europe or the Middle East without having to continuously look over their shoulder for at least the next few years. Americans will have to learn how to 'not look American' wherever they travel to in the world because it isn't necessarily just the Iranians that will become their immediate problem.
dubum · 51-55, M
Zionists evil still mad that Khomeini was able to overthrown the Shah regime which is pro US + Israel.
Remember, the Brutush empire + cia also overthrown Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 then reinstalled the Puppet Shah, because he wanted to nationalize Iran's oil which at the time is 80% own by the Brutt.
All the nuclear issue just a gimmick to legitimate the illegitimate attack. What they want is a regime change, their very old game.
Remember, the Brutush empire + cia also overthrown Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 then reinstalled the Puppet Shah, because he wanted to nationalize Iran's oil which at the time is 80% own by the Brutt.
All the nuclear issue just a gimmick to legitimate the illegitimate attack. What they want is a regime change, their very old game.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
It was an illegal attack by the West. The West is desperate for wars!!!
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@wildbill83 And we have since found out that Trump lied... because he had no clue what he was talking about.
He destroyed the agreement for them to not attempt to build weapons, so he's bringing their desire to build one further...
He destroyed the agreement for them to not attempt to build weapons, so he's bringing their desire to build one further...
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
This comment is hidden.
Show Comment
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Jāvēd Ēranšahr
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
Mad… I hate it