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Do You Believe in Ghosts?

I just bought a new house.

My friend asked, "What if you only got a good deal on it because it is haunted?"

I said, "Then I will make a new friend."
Bought a old farm with a regular two story farmhouse. Also next the the house was an old foundation and big stone fireplace and chimney. That was a cabin built in 1858. I totally redid the house and when we moved in we definitely found there was something there. At least four people at different times, saw a old woman in a white dress sitting in a rocking chair. No one said a word to anyone. When we moved we found out four of us saw the same thing, didn’t want to scare anyone so no one said anything til then.
There were other things each of us saw and kept to ourselves about it.
I don’t know what they are but there is something to the ghost thing.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Suggestmeone Huh. That's interesting. I had a friend who called herself a psychic medium and claimed to be able to talk to those spirits. Unfortunately my friend passed away last December. I never bought into the ghost thing, and the two of us had a lot of conversations about it. I miss her a lot.
laurieluvsit · 26-30, F
YES! ...they are demons, stay away from them!

SamaYael · M
I believe in a lot of supernatural things. I have at least two spirits in my house and a Fae Tree in the backyard. I've seen skinwalkers around among other things.
SamaYael · M
@ShadowSister it has its charms. Lots of homeless people and hardcore druggies here though.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@SamaYael That's lots of places. My ex's extended family lives there. We always had a good time visiting them.
SamaYael · M
@ShadowSister like I said it has its charms. It can be a nice place.
In California, if a person died in a house, that must be disclosed to any buyer. This came up because my father passed away in his house. The buyers did not let us know if his ghost was haunting it; I assume he had better things to do.

In the afterword to the second edition of [i]Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance[/i], Robert Pirsig explained that our relationships with each other are like a net, so when a person dies, it's like a hole is torn in the net and can be experienced as an entity of some kind. This isn't something you can interact with like a real person.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@LeopoldBloom I think I probably have something similar. Two owners ago was an older woman who passed away while she lived there. Sounds like she was a sweet person. I don't believe in ghosts. But if I did, I think someone who died peacefully from old age is probably going to be a kind spirit. Like she would bake me some ghost cookies or something.
I also live in a 100+ year old home... not a single ghost.

I have experienced things people like to think of as ghosts, I just ...don't believe they are ghosts.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@nonsensiclesnail Wow. Okay. Wow. That's... a lot. I'm sorry you lost a loved one. 😢
@ShadowSister Quite alright. I feel badly for her family. Well, my family. My husbands sister, she was on 42. No one was ready for this. It was unexpected.

But it didnt stop there, that was jsut the peek of the week. But it tapered back off and went away. It always does. BUt once they start, it’s like depression, you know the activity and teh pain it causes will hit a peek,,,and then wane.
Ive been dealing with them for most of my life. ANd I know everyone has different experiences. But it breaks my heart when people think they are dealing with their dead loved ones.
I can tell you, if my sister in law had her way,. She would be haunting the fuck out of all of us right now, just to make us pay for not being enough for her.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@nonsensiclesnail She sounds like she was a character. Death is always hard. You have my sympathies.
Ceinwyn · 22-25, F
I wasn’t given a choice to believe. The land my grandparents farmed was an airbase during the war. The base is gone, but what remains used to make me afraid. We don’t talk about it and do our best to keep the locals out.
Ceinwyn · 22-25, F
@ArishMell People cause trouble. When they find something they attract more, when they find nothing they get angry and cause damage, and spread word sbout that you’re a family of freaks.

The dead men in the fields are a bad enough, the living arseholes are an even bigger problem.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Ceinwyn So it is a cemetery as well?
Ceinwyn · 22-25, F
@ArishMell No. But it was the last solid ground those men ever set foot on.
Jeephikelove · 46-50, F
Yes, congratulations on your new home 🎉
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Jeephikelove Thanks!
Bhs123 · 36-40, F
Lol becareful
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Bhs123 Perhaps the answer is to be polite an friendly to whatever goes bump in the night so you don't make the ghost fear you!
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@ArishMell It's a funny answer, but I think that's actually why I'm not afraid. I get along with everyone. I can probably win a ghost over to my side. 😆
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ShadowSister I once read a lovely little ghost story that saw things from their point of view: several spirits drifting around a big old house quite normally at night but utterly terrified of daylight and the people in it!
Straylight · F
I don’t, but I’m open to evidence.
SnailTeeth · 36-40
No, I don't even believe in fun anymore, I just believe in distractions from existential dread. I hate to sound ungrateful, because I can only imagine how hopeless, lonely, and pointless the universe that gave us life feels, but I just hope I don't exist after this.
As always I ask this: Can you clearly define what is a ghost and what is the evidence? Are they made of matter? Leave any residue behind? Emit or reflect light? Can they be detected by temperature or some other measure?

If ghosts exist, why must belief matter?
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ineedadrink · 51-55, M
I try to close myself off as much as possible to any sensitivity to any paranormal. I have enough problems with those topside to get involved with those who aren't anymore.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@ineedadrink Nice. I don't particularly believe in the paranormal, but if I did, this would basically describe me as well.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
Yep and my house is certified
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@BackyardShaman Huh. That's super weird. Hope things are better for you now!
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
@ShadowSister oh yeah definitely, there are certain times of the year that are more active, in particular around February around the anniversary of the original owner’s death. Doors open and close by themselves, sounds and shadows. There’s also a young girl that died during the influenza epidemic around 1918 or so, she shows up about once every 4 years or so. You see this little girl playing in the yard briefly then she’s gone.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@BackyardShaman Those types of things always remind me of this Ryan George comedy video...

pentacorn · F
no, but i do believe people can convince themselves of anything
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@pentacorn I agree. It seems to works even better if several people are together with the same propensity to do that so re-inforcing each others' nervousness.

There is a report in my local paper about one such group planning to make some sort of video or something of themselves believing in ghosts in the empty rooms of a 19C military installation known among local children as the "Ghost Tunnels". (The magazines are buried in big earth banks,)

I don't discount people feeling odd or worrying sensations, or hearing unsettling noises, in dark places in the still of the night, and I have done so myself; but I think it's just a mixture of imagination and our senses slightly distorted to by our natural survival instincts.
pentacorn · F
@ArishMell yes, a sort of group-mentality.

[quote]I don't discount people feeling odd or worrying sensations, or hearing unsettling noises, in dark places in the still of the night, and I have done so myself; but I think it's just a mixture of imagination and our senses slightly distorted to by our natural survival instincts.[/quote]
i agree with this very much. i've experienced similar while watching a video of someone trying to hear from the ghosts of murder victims with some sort of contraption that's supposed to be able to pick up the voices of ghosts. they suggested what words the sounds made and it actually scared me, a perfectly sane and logical person.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@pentacorn What was shown in the video seems a bit like a modern version of the seances that were popular in the late-19C. The escape-artist and stage-conjuror Harry Houdini showed those to be fraudulent, using stage-magic tricks and something like the group-mentality you suggest.

Oddly, I have felt much less at ease at night in man-made places like old buildings or dark former railway-cuttings used as paths, than in fully natural locations. I think the fear was more of what sort of real threats I might meet, such as strangers or dogs that might attack me, than anything else.

I know someone who used to stay for weekends in an outdoor-pursuits club in a moderately remote rural location. He said many members found it unsettling to stay alone there, such as on a Sunday night after everyone had gone home. It was not "haunted" or anything, but most of us live in at least suburban areas and are just not used to countryside darkness and noises - even worse when the neighbouring farm had peacocks. If you've ever heard one of those call out you'll know what I mean. It's a blood-curdling screech!

He told me one night alone there himself, he heard heavy, laboured breathing apparently from a partition next to his bunk in the large dormitory. Some people would have fled gibbering but my friend was made of sterner stuff. He had access to a store behind the partition, and soon traced the "breathing" to the effect of the wind in the eaves, on a loose flap of roofing-felt. He wedged it tight and had a peaceful night.
Glassysky · 22-25, M
Congrats though, how come ya got a good deal on it?

If I was a ghost id be haunting you for sure
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Glassysky The last couple that was there used it as a vacation home, they were only there a week or so out of each year. It's in good shape, but it needs a LOT of updates. It was priced low to sell. But also I think our appraiser came in higher than an agent could actually sell it for.
hello there, i personally don't, i think it's just a bunch of nonsense/superstitions.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@knightTemplar Yep, that's my view too.
in10RjFox · M
Haunted by good ghosts .. why should Ghosts be bad ?

Did you check the gender of the Ghosts with your friend.. ? 😜
NickiHijab · F
Idk about ghosts but I believe there's other forms of existence for sure
TexChik · F
I have yet to see one. Congrats on your new home! 👍🏻
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@TexChik Thanks! I have the rest of the month to get moved from my old place. Internet gets installed this afternoon, so today is when I shift from mostly living in the old place to mostly living in the new place.
Im not stuck here with the ghost, the ghost is stuck in here with me
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I do like your story - though I don't believe in ghosts!
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Not a firm believer, but a believer all the same.
That’s like asking if I believe in myself

Yes 👻
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As someone has already posted, I too believe they are demons. And not to be toyed with or entertained. They can be dangerous!
That's a good answer.
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ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@LordShadowfire No worries, I'm not on the internet to start arguments with strangers haha. I believe your experience. Don't expect me to accept your interpretation, but neither am I going to contradict your interpretation.
@ShadowSister I was actually thinking of someone else who shall remain nameless, who goes around demanding proof for every story people post, even if they say they don't expect anyone to believe it. He's a bit of a pain.
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