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Sometimes I think that the reason I don't end up with a nice guy is that it's just so alien to me

When you didn't grow up with it, you feel out of place in the presence of a truly caring person. Like they are on a level that I don't belong at with them. I'm not saying that I'm a mean person, I genuinely love and care for people around me. But there's still this glass wall between giving that out and receiving it for myself.

Can anyone relate to this?
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being · 36-40, F
Well well well .. I used to say that to myself a lot. I don't think anymore that that's true for me. I can be very caring and I can receive care.

I've yet to meet the flawless person. So even the kindest of people, needs attention and to be slightest protective towards and not give it all at once, take things slow, and keep the benefit of the doubt. That doesn't mean there's no trust or unconditional love, it means that human is another animal, making mistakes, having urges, desires, etc..
being · 36-40, F
@Kuronekko nor for me, in words at least I've made it! Now action uh uh 🥺🤭😌🥰🧡
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@being yeah, action is the hard bit. I know the right thing to do, my brain just has to catch up.
being · 36-40, F
@Kuronekko words are important too because they express our beliefs... Once we get to change our beliefs... Change occurs too, I'm taking it slow this time though.
You're a starry 💫 person.. keep it up, we'll succeed 🤭
I think unless a sincere effort is made to break a pattern, people tend to live what they know. Plus in your case I’d imagine that growing up as you did, your self worth and self esteem took a hit which would likely complicate matters.
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@OlderSometimesWiser its ingrained and affects my subconscious choices for sure.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Kuronekko
people tend to live what they know

That really becomes obvious when you observe family patterns. There are exceptions of course, but close, supportive family members influence one another and outside relationships are often picked with the consent or anticipated consent of other family members. As the children grow up and pick would-be spouses, the would be spouses are often ones that will blend in with the larger family.

With dysfunctional families it's just the opposite, and as family expands, it tends to draw in those who contribute to the dysfunction.
Strongtea · 22-25, M
Totally tbh. I find it really hard to get close to people. It feels really really awkward to compliment my girlf now, it seemed to be easier when we weren’t dating. I don’t know whether it’s ‘there’s more to lose now’ or something. I really like SW as I feel I can be more honest and open, in real life, I put walls up and have created a person that tries to be much cooler than I really am.
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@Strongtea we all have our real life mask. It protects us.
There are a lot of people out there who don't really understand what love is or should feel like because they've only ever experienced toxic love. If the expectation of love is that you'll die for the person one minute and die because of them the next then that's the wrong kind of love. Real, meaningful love is stable and consistent.
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@UBotMate so I hear
Absolutely can relate. I never liked being a "nice" guy - most do not, but I did like being a good man. There is a huge difference and usually once a woman gets in her mid to upper 20s, usually they can appreciate a good man.
@Kuronekko We're out there. Good women are hard to find also, but there's hope I guess.
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@TallMtnMedic It would help if people were honest in the beginning stages of meeting. I think im choosing well and it turns out I haven't.
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CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
It's different for me. I only ever had something to do with nice, gentle and cautious guys but I don't get anywhere further because either I'm not attracted enough or there's some other obstacle. I'd say I'm weird in my specific way. It's hard to let anyone close to me because of the inconsistency in my feelings.
Wallflow3r · 26-30, F
Totally valid and well said. People like to act like the victim when they say they can’t find a “good” partner.
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@Wallflow3r Familiar is not always good for you. It can feel wrong to be in unfamiliar territory though.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
I think that it’s already been proven that people say things they want, publicly or out loud. But then when it comes to finding things for themselves they generally seek out the opposite of what they say they want.

It all boils down to psychology. The logical approach when someone is speaking out what they want is usually far different than what actually captures a persons interest, and fuels them with the soul felt itch and longing they have inside them.

A person who is genuinely interested in another person is usually rejected because people enjoy a chase. They enjoy “earning” the attention they get from someone it is more difficult to attain it from. When it is too easy to gain support, care, affection, or attention from someone. They regard it as less valuable, since it comes in such abundance. Like 1,000 Pennie’s to a single dollar. Most will pick the dollar out of convenience, even if the totality of the Pennie’s is worth far more…
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@AuRevoir human brains are so annoying to navigate.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@Kuronekko I’ve studied enough to it to realize that we are led astray by multiple desires. The heart wants one thing, then the brain another, and then biology a third.

A good example of this is dieting. Your desire in your heart will want to lose the weight, mostly as fast as possible. Logically your brain knows losing weight quickly is illogical and that slow and steady wins the race. While your body will simply crave the foods that don’t even lead to the results you wish.

We get torn in 3 different directions all at the same time. And life is just that constant cycle of fighting it out along the way.
Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@AuRevoir it certainly is. Despite studying and knowing stuff about how it all works, its still really hard to act accordingly.
I know what you mean.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
I feel this way when I'm with other christian people, like I'm too jaded to even understand the world you live in 😬 But for women, I do like nice girls a lot.
PaleandPolluted · 36-40, F
I think i understand you. When i meet a green flag guy i suddenly feel like a red flag.
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Kuronekko · 41-45, F
@basilfawlty89 This is true, I am suspicious when people are overly nice.

And yes, I don't mean these self proclaimed nice guys. Massive red flag.
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Tumbleweed · F
Sad but true, love. You nailed it.
LaLumieri · 51-55, F
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MethDozer · M
We're drawn to familiarity and find strange comfort in it even when it's toxic

 
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