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We seem to have an antisemite problem here.

And I'm not talking about criticisms of Israel. Straight up white supremacist and conspiracy BS going on.
Morvoren · F
The guy named after cheap cider?

JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Morvoren Sad we have to pussy foot not to name a Nazi
SW-User
@Morvoren I reported him
SW-User
@Morvoren I know multiple people have reported him ... and yet he's still here
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I'm sad to hear that the admins haven't blocked this,

I think sadly, a lot of the online radical right have succeeded in normalising a certain level of hate speech.

A lot of centrists and also libertarians buy into the 'both sides must be equally bad' narrative and also the narrative about the 'woke mob' silencing people. These arguments have been driven so relentlessly by the media that they had an impact So when there is any plausible deniability at all, people decide it's not racist. These days, the idea of falsely accusing someone of racism seems to carry more stigma than actual racism.

The language of 'globalists,' 'Cultural Marxism,' and 'New World Order are antisemitic, in origin at the very least. These are used frequently in online discussions in many places and it has become normalised. I also think that there is a general lack of understanding of anti-Semitic tropes.

I'm obviously talking about the outer layer of this stuff. Sometimes it really does cross over to some really vulgar stuff.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Ferise1 No one cares about your trolling.
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OggggO · 36-40, M
The worst part is you report it and the only thing that happens is it automatically blocks them while the report itself dies in obscurity, leaving them free to continue to spread their hatred.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@HannibalAteMeOut I have similarly noticed that when I report a bot trying to sell something it gets zapped pretty quickly.
@HannibalAteMeOut As far as the pedo content, they've explained why it takes a while. The first thing they do is contact federal law enforcement, which means they have to leave it up for a little bit as evidence.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@LordShadowfire yeah honestly they are quite quick with it as well.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
Let's report for hate speech. They should have no place here or in the world.
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@HannibalAteMeOut they know how to skirt the TOS lines just enough to avoid violations and pretend to be offended when being called out.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Big chunk of that segment of the users already blocked me.
But I still see enough of it, so I can only imagine if you are able to see all the bigots.

https://similarworlds.com/culture-race/holocaust/4501759-Why-did-the-Holocaust-happen-In-your-opinion
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Kwek00 I've been blocking all those people too. I used to want to keep dialogue open, but there is no point talking to those people.
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@JimboSaturn blocking them seems problematic because then they can just reinforce each other in front of less aware users. They get a platform without people to provide counters.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@ViciDraco I think the undoctrinated can see through their bullshit and there is no way that they are able to see reason.
Ducky · 31-35, F
I know who you're talking about. He's said some pretty awful shit, then denies being bigoted... I wouldn't be surprised if that ballsack was a Neo Nazi or a Klan member.
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@Ferise1 we're not necessarily defending them, we're talking about a bigotry problem. The defense is a side effect.
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ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@Ferise1 what is it like to live in so much fear?
Human1000 · M
SW does nothing.
@LordShadowfire @Human1000 false nuno would never support it idk the reasons behind stuff but ill stake my reputation that he doesnt support hate speech
@TryingtoLava I understand that we might not know everything that goes on behind the scenes. If it were me running the place, I would implement a zero tolerance policy on the type of stuff these people say. The guy with the bow that is supposedly strong has told me repeatedly that he thinks the word racism was created by those evil Jews to counter legitimate criticism.
@LordShadowfire Then try and run it shadow by all means im not defending the inaction im defending the accusations you are throwing around baselessly that like YOU know better than anebody have huge implications if they stick
scrood · 31-35
Only one race you're allowed to be racist against
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ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@Ferise1 another self callout
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JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
They were growing more brazen after the Paul Pelosi attack I find.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
Always been the case. Nothing new. People just feel slightly more emboldened lately to publicly agree especially because Kanye made it a hot topic with his dumb remarks.
Always been criticism of Jewish financial cartels and this causes hatred and resentment. I think that the Nazis had the same criticism of Jews.
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Human1000 · M
@REMsleep Thank you for making that distinction. I think some envy must exist between blacks and Jews. The most hateful antisemitic remarks I get are from African-Americans.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Human1000 Doubtful. I am African American and in my entire life in my community and in my family Jews are hardly ever meantioned. My mom even worked in her teen years at the JCC and had only good things to say.

Its a non topic. But when I meet people from places such as NYC or Jersey or places where Jews have alot of influence and visible numbers I have heard some of these things about the financial control and such and how some of the Jewish business people treat others. Thats the main negative thing that I've ever heard.

I grew up Christian in the South the only things we knew about Jews was that they are God's choosen people. The only time Jew was meantioned was in the context of religion at church and it was in a good way.

Its also true that many high level people in African American music from the very beginning have always been Jewish. They invested in and sometimes took advantage of African Americans in the music industry for years and yes I have seen much of this topic in documentaries, movies about the jazz greats or rap pioneers, black music labels. Often a Jewish executive would make a record when others would not but often the deal would sour. So there definitely is some context to that. I believe that Kanye was trying to allude to this also. ( not that I support him because I don't)

Blacks have no jealousy towards Jews. You can believe that.
Spotpot · 41-45, M
Racists should be blocked.
@Spotpot You misspelled "banned from SW".
ElRengo · 70-79, M
No kind of racism should be tolerated.
Apparently that's okay here
akindheart · 61-69, F
i haven't seen that here
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Missed that -- maybe because I've blocked a couple of hundred of the bigots here already.
Northwest · M
That's so shocking 🤣😂
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@Northwest having never met anyone openly so, it is a bit surprising to come across. I know a lot of bigots have gone mask off lately, but it's still not something I actually come across. It's such an insane viewpoint to me that I first wonder if it is just a troll or perhaps someone with a mental illness. Even knowing they exist it just boggles my mind that they feel comfortable enough to let people know that think that way.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
He is doing it on another post
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
To be clear, I'm not knocking the admins. Some of the offenders know how to walk the line with TOS and their allies will cry censorship about it if anything is done. It's not an easy problem to solve outside of the most blatant offenders. But we need to feel comfortable calling it out for what is it and shedding a light on it so that the rot is properly ridiculed and not set to spread.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@ViciDraco And if you do report them to the admin, you need specific examples and they can dodge this as you said.
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SW-User
I noticed that lol
Yeah, and I'm sick and tired of the admins' solution being "Oh, just block them".

No. Get rid of the racists.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire Or worse yet get reprimanded yourself.
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@LordShadowfire blocking them as a solution is dependent on the problem.

Blocking is how to deal with trolls looking for attention.

Blocking actual racists ignores the problem and let's it spread.

It can be hard to tell which is which sometimes.
Human1000 · M
I’ve been on yahoo comments today and it’s shocking how normalized antisemitism is there. I hope SW never gets like that.

Thank you for sticking up for Jews, SWeeps!
lumberjackslam · 41-45, M
yep it's amazing how they most wholesome seeming ones would break out with the worst vitriol
lumberjackslam · 41-45, M
You don't expect that to change after thousands of years do you?
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DDonde · 31-35, M
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
SW-User
and the admins have been made aware of it, but nothing happens
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pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
I don’t see any white supremacy or conspiracy theories, (whatever the heck that means now anyway)
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@pianoplayingsteve Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all have shared roots, so they are going to share stuff like that. Criticism of the faiths is not what is being talked about and I'm pretty sure you realize that.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@ViciDraco Well, I just want to make it clear that whilst I criticise Judaism and what some Jews do, it doesn't mean i hate individual Jews or Jews as people. Sometimes people don't make a distinction.
@pianoplayingsteve I'm talking about folks like Strongbow. That guy has literally made the claim that the Jewish people invented the words racism and anti-Semitism to deflect legitimate criticism. He will talk your ear off about how Jews control the media. Okay? That's the kind of talk that made the German people receptive to the Third Reich.

 
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