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Stopping a Bully

My daughter has been getting bullied at school by students. She is in 6th grade and they are in 7th and 8th grade. It's been going on since school started, but she only told me about it yesterday when it got worse. Yesterday a group of older boys surrounded her and started barking at her and yelling at her "bark b!tch, bark b!tch". She said a couple of older girls have been in on it too.

So this morning I sent my email to the school. I had a conference with the principal and school counselor about 2 hours later. Things are going smoothly. It appears that the situation is taken seriously and steps are being taken resolve it.

There is something else about it though that is really bothering me. This group of boys intimidate female teachers I learned. They have made a number of female teachers cry. The school counselor said they aren't as bad when other male teachers are around. I heard from a parent that works at the schools that one boy in particular is the worst. I was told that back in the 4th grade he would make his teacher have a nervous breakdown almost every day. I brought all this up to principal and he quickly denied there being very little truth to it.

Why are students allowed to behave this way towards teachers with no consequences? The rules that schools have set against bullying needs to be applied to everyone. If they really say they have no tolerance for bullying then they have to show it. Bullying has to take place in an environment that supports it. If they ignore and dismiss students bullying school staff then the bullying will continue. If the staff can't stand up to the bullying as a unified force of authority then bullies will take advantage of this weakness. They will continue to terrorize their victims and will eventually escalate the abuse.
SW-User
I would learn everything I can about the ringleader and his family. I'd organize with other parents who have a problem with him and his group, and track all illicit activity. Also, I'd put my daughter in martial arts lessons asap. If the problem continues with your daughter on any level, I'd bring legal action. They would rue the day I got involved
SW-User
@tallpowerhouseblonde So true! And I have no doubt about that. I've rarely been challenged, but it has turned out well for me each time. It's interesting watching people realize what they're up against.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
@SW-User Shocks the hell out of them when people realise they just made a really bad mistake they are now paying for.
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tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
Sending your daughter to self defence classes is a high priority.I reccomend MMA or Krav Magra.She needs to able to defend herself when no one else is around to help her.School rules don't count for anything when other children ignore them or no one is around to enforce those rules.A palm strike into a bully's nose is a great way to let them know their bad behaviour is not tolerated.Any attempt by the school to punish your daughter then you can take legal action for the school failing her duty of care.There is a provable history of this too.You will win easy if the school does not back down which they probably will.
@tallpowerhouseblonde And the bully learns a much needed lesson!!
tallpowerhouseblonde · 31-35, F
@UnderLockDown They sure do.
ninjavu · 51-55, M
@tallpowerhouseblonde [quote]Sending your daughter to self defence classes is a high priority.I reccomend MMA or Krav Magra.[/quote] Couldn't agree with this more.
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
Students bullying teachers? And the principal isn't doing anything? Sounds like this idiot needs to be replaced.
Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
@morrgin This is how the school shooting in Parkland, FL. started. The shooter was a threat to teachers and other students. Everyone warned the school administrators and the school board but no one did anything until it was too late.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@Barefooter25 kids get bullied and emotionally demoralized and mentally broken down and then retaliate and people have the audacity to get mad at the shooter.
Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
@DeluxedEdition It should be up to the principal and teachers to take action. The issue is that we threw discipline out the window.
If this continues maybe you should get a lawyer and sue the boys parents or the school for neglecting this issue or just a letter to get them to take this more seriously.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
Teachers getting bullied? Sounds like a problem with the administration. Document everything call a lawyer
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
Hate this stuff!! I really hope this ends it, but I doubt it will.
Those types don't ever seem to change, maybe a good thumping or they'll end up in jail soon.
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
@morrgin 😁
Try to know as much as you can about them.🙂
morrgin · F
@Virgo79 I'm trying. Its difficult to check into juveniles but if anyone can find out more about them I can
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
@morrgin understood, I feel your determination🙂
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
They better nip this in the bud because it doesn't take much from intimidating girls and women in school to doing far far worse things to women outside of school. Honestly I think if the school won't beat the respect into these young men, there are plenty of fathers out there who will.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Well, I’m horrible at this. If someone seriously bullied my child, I’d skip the school and go bully his father.

Two birds, one stone. You just have to be careful to not bully the child as an adult. That’ll get you arrested.
@Adogslife Teaching the father a lesson is an attractive option too.😆
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
There should be no bullying allowed or tolerated! Somehow, you need to get the teachers to take it up as a job-related issue as well.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 [quote]Somehow, you need to get the teachers to take it up as a job-related issue as well.[/quote]

[quote]My son fought back and was suspended for fighting, even though all of the bystanders agreed that the other person had been the instigator.[/quote]

Sam, I really think you may want to review your position on this stuff.

When your son fought back and got suspended - he did not lose. The school made a bad decision - which I think you may have appealed.

Standing up for ones self is an important part of living. Not everyone has to be Chuck Norris to survive. Win, lose or draw - there is the matter of self esteem at work here too. Your son lost his musical instrument, fought back and was suspended - and subsequently not defended by you.

And dumping the whole thing into the laps of the teachers isn't helpful either.

I'm sure there are many that will take issue with my aggressive position. Oh well.
Tminus6453 · M
[quote]Why are students allowed to behave this way towards teachers with no consequences[/quote]

You simple cant discipline kids at all anymore when so many kids out there need a good asswhoopin or two
Chanelcoco · 51-55, F
@Tminus6453 Agree. At school I behaved because I didn't want to get hit.
ninjavu · 51-55, M
Sorry to hear about this. Maybe she should open carry. 🤷‍♂️
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
Thats very true. I agree. If they continuesly get away with it they will count it as a victory and get better at bullying. I think its caused from those kids needing to feel powerful. Maybe they dont feel their life is fair so they have to feel above other people? If it can be caught before they are adults, maybe it will prevent violence in the long run.
Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
Many school districts have a no bully tolerance policy. This means that the principal can call the authorities on school bullies. Unfortunately, not taking a tough stand by disciplinary standards on bullying is why we see lots of school shootings.
Manfredthemanic · 16-17, M
Those boys should be suspended! In my school, I am bullied too, but finally the boys are being expelled.
morrgin · F
@Manfredthemanic I'm sorry you were being bullied. I'm glad they got expelled. Out of the ones who have been bullying my daughter a few got in school suspension and a couple of them got suspended from school for I don't know how long.
Manfredthemanic · 16-17, M
@morrgin Good! If they don't stop, they should be expelled!
MtnManJohn · 56-60, M
It’s sad to hear this is happening so close to home. I hope you are able to find other parents and school staff to help put a stop to this.
Chillie · 61-69, M
The problem is teachers aren’t allowed to do anything anymore, should bring back the strap
Viper · M
Kids can get away with a hell of a lot there days and some of them know it and push the limits as far as they can.
Forgetmeknot · 41-45
This happened to my daughter... except it was the teachers 🤷‍♀️😂...not really funny, I changed her school.
Strongtea · 22-25, M
I was a bully and the only thing that stopped me doing it was when someone I bullied stood up to me and pushed me in a pond in front of everyone. I’m always super polite to them now.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
I hate it, kids can be such little pricks and they usually mirror the behaviour of their parents.
TJNewton · M
What country is this happening in ?
morrgin · F
@TJNewton A small town in Oregon, USA
TJNewton · M
@morrgin If that was here in the UK all of them bullying would be expelled immediately hope your daughter feels better soon
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@TJNewton Just expelling them only moves the problem elsewhere. The bullies need to be changed as well.

 
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