Watching people play video games professionally is exactly as worthy as watching people play sports professionally

@Burnley123 It actually makes sense to me; he was a bad politician but not a bad businessman. I mean, he's not Musk or Trump who'll turn anything they touch into an imminent and oftentimes laughable bankruptcy, the real problem that many people here still have a hard time figuring out is indeed that being a good businessman doesn't make you a good politician; a country isn't a business, a government's main purpose isn't generating profit.

Those were likely paid actors or employers indeed, but I remember that his cult wasn't really different than modern rightwing cults, people like those portrayed in that vid definitely existed/exist.

@Elessar I bet Trump's current legal problems and obvious corruption must remind you of him very mich. Also, still having his base defend him in [b]any [/b]circumstance.

@Burnley123 Absolutely, but on the other hand Trump seems like a toddler: no control over his own emotions, digging his own grave by leaking evidence of his own wrongdoings whenever he makes a post or release an interview. Silvio played the game for much longer than Trump and managed to dodge justice quasi-perfectly, his corporate empire is still alive and well even nowadays

Trump's the cheap remake of Berlusconi 😅

@Fishy

Yeah i've done both but neither is an common pastime for me.

@deadgerbil

Yeah i can see that

@SatyrService

I'm not sure on what basis you assert that gaming at a professional level doesn't require "real" suffering and discipline.

You say those who are good at games have a lot of free time to get good...well what do you think pro athletes are doing besides training for their sport?
They start as talented amateurs playing in their free time and then at a certain level they are able to concentrate their time and energy into playing at the top level.

So what's the difference?

@Pikachu the difference, is clear, if one have experience in Real World Effort video Skate board is not as hard as Real Skate board
games are finite,, real world has many more conditions to deal with
a more complex set of rules.

it is much easier to succeed in a vid game than on the field
like i said SUFFERING and DISCIPLINE
no one gets hurt trying to best some game level so there is not the same intensity of
I am sorry if this offends.. but I have done a lot of both and tho no vid game master. they are but analogues of the real thing

@SatyrService

[quote]Real World Effort video Skate board is not as hard as Real Skate board[/quote]

And soccer isn't as hard as MMA.
So what?

You appear to be arguing that playing video games does not require the same things as playing sports.
Lol well no shit, it's a different kind of game.
You keep repeating SUFFERING and DISCIPLINE as if that's an argument. But the fact is that to compete at a professional level in gaming there is also SUFFERING and DISCIPLINE lol.
Actual physical injuries and the discipline to practice, practice, practice.

So what's the difference?

But the point is that you're either watching people chase a ball around with skill that you could never achieve or you're watching people play a shooter game with skill that you could never achieve.

So what's the difference?

@NerdyPotato

Six of one, half a dozen of the other lol

@Teslin

Very true.

@TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart I don't play them but hand eye coordination, anticipation are a couple I can think of.

@TurtleEclipseOfTheHeart

If there are no natural skills...why are some people naturally better at it than others?
The fact is that these games compete on a level that most people will never be able to. Same as professional sports.

It's not the same skills as run fast or throw good but undeniably there are skills both inherent and practiced, same as sports.
But actually many of the skills overlap: Obviously reaction time is important, spatial awareness and understanding of where your teammates are, strategy, balancing offense and defense, coordination and so on.


But that's not really the question, is it?
I haven't asked if [i]playing[/i] video games is the same as playing a sport.
I've asked how watching a professional play video games is different than watching a professional play a sport.

@JimboSaturn

Kind of a downer way to describe games and competition but sure lol

@Pikachu that made me laugh sorry I will lighten up

@JimboSaturn

lol no worries.

@LvChris I support my local rugby club, partly because of the recreational schemes they provide for hundreds of girls and boys and the pride, identity and wealth they generate for our locality. The quality of the main spectacle is often lacking, but pasdively watching the sport is not the whole picture.

@SkeetSkeet

What of it?

@Pikachu nerdss

@SkeetSkeet

Who?