[b] "Dr. James M. Tour says, "From a synthetic chemical perspective, neither I nor any of my colleagues can fathom a prebiotic molecular route to construction of a complex system. We cannot even figure out the prebiotic routes to the basic building blocks of life: carbohydrates, nucleic acids, lipids, and proteins. Chemists are collectively bewildered. Hence I say that no chemist understands prebiotic synthesis of the requisite building blocks, let alone assembly into a complex system. That's how clueless we are. I have asked all of my colleagues - National Academy members, Nobel Prize winners - I sit with them in offices. Nobody understands this. So if your professors say it's all worked out, if your teachers say it's all worked out, they don't know what they're talking about." "We have no idea how the molecules that compose living systems could have been devised such that they would work in concert to fulfill biology's functions... Those that say, 'Oh this is well worked out', they know nothing - nothing - about chemical synthesis - nothing."
And read his 2017 "An Open Letter to My Colleagues" at http://inference-review.com/article/an-open-letter-to-my-colleagues" [/b]
@newjaninev2 Well, as they have not the same purposes of Science (the main tool for such systematic effort) and, in fact, reject and collide with it, it is not so strange that they can´t imagine the need of such capabilities, right?
Are you willing to tell me how a complicated programme like DNA could write itself? Or a protein producing engine like a cell could design itself? Come on, these are the questions for you guys. But you can’t go beyond putting silly cartoon figures up as though it actually challenged anything. Get to the real issues man! But you never tackle them. Proves something? 😃😃😃
[quote]Sharon · F @Budwick It clear that some here think they can dismiss Atheism despite obviously not even knowing what it is.[/quote]
[quote]Budwick · 61-69, M @Sharon And, they can. It's a denial of reality to suppose that they can not.[/quote]
[quote]Sharon · F @Budwick By the same token, there's no need for an Atheist to read christian propaganda before dismissing it.[/quote]
[quote]Budwick · 61-69, M @Sharon Fine. Though your science pals may disagree.[/quote]
[quote]Sharon · F @Budwick I know and I would agree with them. I'm just applying your logic.[/quote]
As anyone can see, I would agree with them in disagreeing with [b]your[/b] argument, viz. that it's not necessary to read something before dismissing it.
@Carazaa [quote]He is a Godly man that is just doing what God tells him to do. [/quote] Where's the proof that this god even exists and, further, has actually told him to insult others and their beliefs?
@Carazaa Please, he's an arrogant POS who is only on here to insult people and boast about how great he is, and how stupid we are for not agreeing with him. If he's "godly," that's a God I want nothing to do with, because he turns his followers into sanctimonious jerks. He's driving people away from God, and if there is a God, he will be held accountable for that.
It's people exactly like him who flew the planes into the World Trade Center on 9/11.
@GodSpeed63 [b]"I am the Lord and there is no other." [/b]🙂 I thought about that verse too yesterday and posted it. Do you listen to Family Radio 24 hrs Christian music and bible reading? That's where I heard it yesterday.
Peek-a-boo - you are a wizard at setting u0p false premises! Always for the purpose of demeaning God, the Father of Heaven and Earth, and those that follow Him and His teachings.
Why do you do that Peek? Are you that insecure?
Come to church Peek. Pray to God, ask forgiveness, seek wisdom, be saved.
@Budwick You've come on to an Atheist thread just to harass and insult others. I find some christians get really upset when Athiests post on their threads.
Let's examine your first response in this thread. Did you think accusing me of submitting a false premise (which you have correctly backed down from explaining), accusing me of being deamining god and being insecure was anything other than antagonistic?
lol Don't embarrass yourself by being dishonest. You know what you're doing here and so do we.
Yes, they are willing to deny evidence. They are not interested in proof. They have their dogma, and anything that contradicts their dogma is evil. It's an anti-intellectual position.
@JBird Agreed except the Bermuda Triangle was a 1970s era hoax. An unusual number of aircraft did not vanish there compared to any other area with similar air traffic.
Creationists are just another version of flat earthers. Too afraid to look over the horizon. They don't know how to accept a world where they have no control.
How long can soft tissue last in fossils? The experimental evidence is that it could not last millions of years. In desperation Mary Schweitzer tried preserving a tissue sample in concentrated blood but the results are unconvincing and the setup contrived. But there has been soft tissue found in dinosaur fossils. The latest claim from N Carolina State University is 180 million years! Seriously; soft tissue is more consistent with a Biblical time scale.
If they don't deny the evidences, they wouldn't call themselves creationists. I believe it's their duty to protect their beliefs whether it's true or not.
[big][/big][b]you keep banging your head on this one.[/b] [i]let get this settled[/i]
[big]BELIEVERS[/big]cannot be swayed by evidence based argument.
[big]FAITH [/big] is about belief even when faced with contrary evidence
they cannot be converted by rational argument, so stop trying, [i]it is just being a troll to do so[/i]
[center][quote]Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.[/quote] [/center]
you want them so say something like
"Yeah I believe a bunch bulllshit! you are so right! let me admit my life long wrongness!"
it is not going to happen. they DARE NOT accept the waste of life
The evidence of our faith is the fact that Jesus Christ rose from the dead. We based our faith in history not and closely devised Fables like Zeus or Vishnu. To say there is no faith on solid ground is a tremendous error as far as the Christian faith is concerned@Texasgurl
Your problem is you have no evidence to say that it is borrowed myths. The statement that Christianity is borrowed myth is itself or borrow myth. To say it is that shows your lack of understanding@Texasgurl
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You're hilarious. [quote]evidence which contradicts the bible?[/quote] That's funny right there. All that means is - [b]YOUR[/b] translation of the bible and what it means in some literal sense. Or you will just twist it to fit what you want.
I wouldn't know, I'm neither a creationist nor an evolutionist. I find they work hand in hand and demanding that it be one or the other is the kind of logic employed by a 4 year old demanding ice cream "because I'm cute".
Well i'm glad to hear you're not trying. I'd be forced to feel rather bad for you were that the case😏 Try to control your obsession with me though. It's getting creepy...
