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Carazaa · F
Also we know nothing, nothing at all really!
"Dr. James M. Tour says, "From a synthetic chemical perspective, neither I nor any of my colleagues can fathom a prebiotic molecular route to construction of a complex system. We cannot even figure out the prebiotic routes to the basic building blocks of life: carbohydrates, nucleic acids, lipids, and proteins. Chemists are collectively bewildered. Hence I say that no chemist understands prebiotic synthesis of the requisite building blocks, let alone assembly into a complex system. That's how clueless we are. I have asked all of my colleagues - National Academy members, Nobel Prize winners - I sit with them in offices. Nobody understands this. So if your professors say it's all worked out, if your teachers say it's all worked out, they don't know what they're talking about." "We have no idea how the molecules that compose living systems could have been devised such that they would work in concert to fulfill biology's functions... Those that say, 'Oh this is well worked out', they know nothing - nothing - about chemical synthesis - nothing."
And read his 2017 "An Open Letter to My Colleagues" at http://inference-review.com/article/an-open-letter-to-my-colleagues"
"Dr. James M. Tour says, "From a synthetic chemical perspective, neither I nor any of my colleagues can fathom a prebiotic molecular route to construction of a complex system. We cannot even figure out the prebiotic routes to the basic building blocks of life: carbohydrates, nucleic acids, lipids, and proteins. Chemists are collectively bewildered. Hence I say that no chemist understands prebiotic synthesis of the requisite building blocks, let alone assembly into a complex system. That's how clueless we are. I have asked all of my colleagues - National Academy members, Nobel Prize winners - I sit with them in offices. Nobody understands this. So if your professors say it's all worked out, if your teachers say it's all worked out, they don't know what they're talking about." "We have no idea how the molecules that compose living systems could have been devised such that they would work in concert to fulfill biology's functions... Those that say, 'Oh this is well worked out', they know nothing - nothing - about chemical synthesis - nothing."
And read his 2017 "An Open Letter to My Colleagues" at http://inference-review.com/article/an-open-letter-to-my-colleagues"
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Carazaa · F
@Pikachu This is a leading Doctor of Chemistry and he says he knows nothing and shame on us if we attest to know anything at all! He is aghast at the text books and their lies. The more you know Pika the more you know that you know nothing! Like God says " You know not that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked" Not you specifically of course, just us humans.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Carazaa
That's true. Without the Spirit of God, no one knows what is true.
Also we know nothing, nothing at all really!
That's true. Without the Spirit of God, no one knows what is true.
Carazaa · F
@GodSpeed63 Amen, brother, Amen!🌟 I Hang a star on that!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa This just in... there are things we do not yet know!
Wow, that’s astonishing.
There are two ways we could proceed:
1. we could continue to observe and to gather evidence and to develop evidence-based Theories that explain demonstrated realities.
2. we could just make up something reassuring. Where that conflicts with demonstrated realities (see 1. above) we’ll just throw away, ignore, or misrepresent, demonstrated realities and insist on our convenient fictions.
Wow, that’s astonishing.
There are two ways we could proceed:
1. we could continue to observe and to gather evidence and to develop evidence-based Theories that explain demonstrated realities.
2. we could just make up something reassuring. Where that conflicts with demonstrated realities (see 1. above) we’ll just throw away, ignore, or misrepresent, demonstrated realities and insist on our convenient fictions.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa Do you understand that James Tour is a chemist? He has done little (if any) work on abiogenesis, and doesn’t understand evolution.
What you offer is a simple Appeal to Authority.
There are no authorities in science
What you offer is a simple Appeal to Authority.
There are no authorities in science
Carazaa · F
@newjaninev2 I am a super curious person, and I love science. But we have to be careful before we declare truth, and be slow to jump to conclusions that's all I am saying. I think you are super educated about science but please don't jump to conclusions. I believe in Gods word not because I want to escape from reality, but because I want the truth and the whole truth.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa
Science never ‘declares truth’ and nor does it ‘jump to conclusions’. That’s simply not how science works. Not ever.
I am a super curious person, and I love science
Science never ‘declares truth’ and nor does it ‘jump to conclusions’. That’s simply not how science works. Not ever.
Carazaa · F
@newjaninev2 OK! Are you willing to die for anything? Science? What if so? I am willing to die for truth, for my testimony that God is walking with me, he talks to me through the Bible and my heart, and I know as I know as I know He answers my prayers!
Carazaa · F
@newjaninev2 I hope you will consider reading the Bible and giving God your heart. He will help you in this life and the next!🤗
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa What does any of that have to do with my comments?
Carazaa · F
@newjaninev2 A lot!
LeopoldBloom · M
@Carazaa How does someone give God their heart if they don’t believe he exists? Why don’t you try giving Odin or Zeus your heart and let us know how that goes.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2
God's Word can't be refuted, or disregarded, or contradicted, or argued with. His love for us surpasses all understanding and He is bringing us full circle to the beginning to become the men and women He created us to be without sin. In this world, we'll always have the sinful nature which is why we need Jesus in our lives as our Lord and Savior. This fallen world of ours is only temporary which means it's not reality due to the troubles it has. Reality is eternal like the one true God and will be forever present like the one true God.
for example..?
God's Word can't be refuted, or disregarded, or contradicted, or argued with. His love for us surpasses all understanding and He is bringing us full circle to the beginning to become the men and women He created us to be without sin. In this world, we'll always have the sinful nature which is why we need Jesus in our lives as our Lord and Savior. This fallen world of ours is only temporary which means it's not reality due to the troubles it has. Reality is eternal like the one true God and will be forever present like the one true God.
SW-User
Quite so. @newjaninev2
SW-User
@GodSpeed63 Gods word can’t be refuted because the evidence is in the bible which is Gods word so it becomes a self-fulfilling truth. Conversely if I don’t accept that the Bible is some irrefutable divine truth then I have no reason to accept your position. God exists if that’s what you want
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SW-User
It's not what want but what the truth demands to be made known.
God exists if that’s what you want
It's not what want but what the truth demands to be made known.
Carazaa · F
@LeopoldBloom Where is Oden's book declaring to be the only God in his own voice, took care of the worlds sins, answers prayers, gives thousands of Bible promises that has been verified, tells us the future, and created everything?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa He’s saying the we do not yet know. He’s ignoring the fact that we’re still working on it.
So what?
That’s all of science.
In fact, that’s the point and purpose of science!
So what?
That’s all of science.
In fact, that’s the point and purpose of science!
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