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Infamous607 · 51-55, M
@swirlie We should stop meeting like this. What will your friends think?
swirlie · 31-35
@Infamous607
They already think I'm dealing with someone 25 years younger than myself, so they see me as a daycare provider who volunteers her time to the needy.
They already think I'm dealing with someone 25 years younger than myself, so they see me as a daycare provider who volunteers her time to the needy.
Infamous607 · 51-55, M
@swirlie
It's ok. You don't have to pretend you don't like me. You can be my friend if you like.
It's ok. You don't have to pretend you don't like me. You can be my friend if you like.
Greyjedi · M
Fear and intimidation is obviously what Christians are looking for. Panic and feelings of powerlessness would most likely be most pleasant to them. Pagans that I’ve known are all about authenticity. Authentic is not something Christians are not. Every form of paganism is thousands of older than Christianity (if not tens of thousands of years older). Christianity wants to rewrite history to where they are the oldest religion or only religion. Thus, they feel threatened by older forms of thought. There was a time when Christianity did not exist and paganism was practiced in thousands of different forms.
Christianity has a long covered-up history of violence and oppression. Christianity as we know it today actually has at one time waged war on its self. The oldest group of Christians (most of those who were closest in time to seeing the character named Jesus in the Bible) were called gnostics. After the Bible was composed by the the concil of Nysia (not by their or any god). The Roman Catholic war machine slaughtered a great deal gnostics so no one could try to overturn their Bible. I believe it was the uncovering the Dead Sea Scrolls after thousands of years that brought the name gnostic back. Majority of Christians today had pagan ancestors, educated Catholics know this better than most and it is exactly for this reason the book of giants was kept out of their bible. Rome and Greece has stories of giants even giants that were worshipped as gods. Whether Catholics were specifically afraid of Greeks uprisings or people realizing that the church is bullshit because of this, we may never know.
Christianity is materialism trying to disguise itself as spirituality much like the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. The vast majority of college educated Christians study the Bible or money. If Christianity had stuck to its or never existed Republicans would likely never have existed in America. Speaking of roots ( well close to roots) if you forget about the inquisition and Christianity’s other true means of spreading then the only reason Christianity has gotten this far is because an emperor was high and thought he saw a burning cross flying in the sky and won a battle. That is materialism failing to transform it’s self into spirituality, practically at its finest.
Christians have a lot to worry about and their violent insecurity will hasten their inevitable collapse, but whether it is within a lifetime who knows.
Christianity has a long covered-up history of violence and oppression. Christianity as we know it today actually has at one time waged war on its self. The oldest group of Christians (most of those who were closest in time to seeing the character named Jesus in the Bible) were called gnostics. After the Bible was composed by the the concil of Nysia (not by their or any god). The Roman Catholic war machine slaughtered a great deal gnostics so no one could try to overturn their Bible. I believe it was the uncovering the Dead Sea Scrolls after thousands of years that brought the name gnostic back. Majority of Christians today had pagan ancestors, educated Catholics know this better than most and it is exactly for this reason the book of giants was kept out of their bible. Rome and Greece has stories of giants even giants that were worshipped as gods. Whether Catholics were specifically afraid of Greeks uprisings or people realizing that the church is bullshit because of this, we may never know.
Christianity is materialism trying to disguise itself as spirituality much like the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. The vast majority of college educated Christians study the Bible or money. If Christianity had stuck to its or never existed Republicans would likely never have existed in America. Speaking of roots ( well close to roots) if you forget about the inquisition and Christianity’s other true means of spreading then the only reason Christianity has gotten this far is because an emperor was high and thought he saw a burning cross flying in the sky and won a battle. That is materialism failing to transform it’s self into spirituality, practically at its finest.
Christians have a lot to worry about and their violent insecurity will hasten their inevitable collapse, but whether it is within a lifetime who knows.
DragonFruit · 70-79, M
Most Christians aren't afraid of Pagans and don't hate them...but there are some who call themselves Christians and have a disdain for those who identify as non-Christian.
They try to spread fear and hatred toward those who don't identify as Christian. Apparently to them, "Love thy neighbor" only applies to Christian neighbors.
They try to spread fear and hatred toward those who don't identify as Christian. Apparently to them, "Love thy neighbor" only applies to Christian neighbors.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
The Pagans I know and associate with are more Christian than the professional "Christians."
Christians love their heavily edited collections of legends and bronze age Hebrew folk tales. They live to force those on society. It seems Christianity is all about fear, control and tax free businesses.
Christians love their heavily edited collections of legends and bronze age Hebrew folk tales. They live to force those on society. It seems Christianity is all about fear, control and tax free businesses.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Allelse · 36-40, M
@basilfawlty89 Yes it is.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@Allelse a sweeping generalization does not a logical argument make.
Again, I'm not Christian.
I have criticisms of Christianity and some Christians.
But I'm also against intolerance regardless of who does it.
Again, I'm not Christian.
I have criticisms of Christianity and some Christians.
But I'm also against intolerance regardless of who does it.
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SparkleLeaf · 51-55, T
@laurieluvsit This is not an exhaustive list, nor is it in any particular order:
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
"You should not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
"All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense." (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
"If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
"A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death." (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, 'You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.' When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through." (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. 'The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.'” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"But if this charge is true [that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night], and evidence of the girl's virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father's house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
"Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death." (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
"One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, 'Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die.'" (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
"Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
"For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’" (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
"The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’" (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
"Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants." (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, 'Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.' So they began by killing the seventy leaders. 'Defile the Temple!' the LORD commanded. 'Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!' So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
“'You are my battle-ax and sword,' says the LORD. 'With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem,' says the LORD. 'Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy,' says the LORD. 'I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out,' says the LORD." (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
"This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: ‘I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’" (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)
"Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood." (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
"[Moses] stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, 'All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.' And all the Levites came. He told them, 'This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.' The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, 'Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing.'” (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)
“'Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,' says the LORD. 'Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction.'" (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel." (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
"You should not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
"All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense." (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
"If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
"A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death." (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, 'You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.' When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through." (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. 'The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.'” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"But if this charge is true [that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night], and evidence of the girl's virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father's house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
"Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death." (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
"One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, 'Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die.'" (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
"Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
"For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’" (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
"The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’" (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
"Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants." (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, 'Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.' So they began by killing the seventy leaders. 'Defile the Temple!' the LORD commanded. 'Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!' So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
“'You are my battle-ax and sword,' says the LORD. 'With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem,' says the LORD. 'Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy,' says the LORD. 'I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out,' says the LORD." (Jeremiah 51:20-26)
"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
"This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: ‘I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’" (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)
"Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood." (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
"[Moses] stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, 'All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.' And all the Levites came. He told them, 'This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.' The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, 'Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing.'” (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)
“'Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,' says the LORD. 'Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction.'" (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
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rob19 · M
@specman Where is @suzie1960 attempting to explain your "relationship" with your imaginary friend? From what I can see, she's just pointing out that your claim to be a christian is no more valid than anyone else's. I expect those who tried to disrupt that Pagan site also have a "relationiship" with that same imaginary friend. Perhaps it was he/she/it who told them to do what they did.
Sharon · F
@Nitedoc They try to force their beliefs onto the whole world in an attempt to achieve world domination They just don't have much success nowadays because, as you say, people have freedom of choice and, in many cases, the benefit of an education.
You refer to
You refer to
...a few prople who wrongly call themselves Christians!
because you don't agree with their methods. They can equally say you're not a real christian for the same reason.
Infamous607 · 51-55, M
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
More likely the mail bomb was sent by Pagans to implicate Christians. Too funny.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@rob19 Not likely. I am not that interesting. You on the other hand are an extreme bigot so there is that.
