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If this makes folks mad, sorry. It’s been bugging me since there was a conversation about it…

Someone wanted to know why, since some black people use the "n-word", everyone can’t without being identified as a racist. The short answer is easy: racists are [b]still[/b] using it.

But I don’t understand why anyone who isn’t black and doesn’t see him or herself as a racist would [b]want[/b] to use a word with such an ugly history attached to it ?

As to why some black people use it among themselves (I don’t), I know the reasoning. I don’t [b]agree[/b] with it, but I know what it is: supposedly using the word takes the "power" out of it. Newsflash: it [b]doesn’t[/b]. And that’s why the popular wisdom is, you can’t use it if you’ve never been [b]called[/b] it (in a disparaging way) yourself.

Personally, I [b]hate[/b] the word, and I wish everyone would delete it from their vocabularies. It will never mean what some people want to make it mean—not [b]any[/b] form of it.
WalksWith · 51-55, F Best Comment
I want to share a story from an experience from childhood about that word.

I grew up in a small town in Nevada. One day, my brother, his friend, and I were cracking and eating filbert nuts (the big ones that have a black shell) as we were eating them, I said something that to this day I cringe about, "These are called n****r toes." My brother's friend just left.

I did not know or understand at the time why he left or why that word was bad. it was what I heard my dad call them. I did not know.

My brother's friends mother came over to our house and talked to me. You see, my brother's friend was black, and one of two black families living in our town at the time. I was 6 and my brother and his friend were 4. She explained to me and the rest of my siblings just how hurtful and degrading that word is.

I remember crying, not that Laura, the mother, was angry, but that I could say something so repulsive without knowing "the rest of the story''. My father apologized to her, I apologized to her and her son. I felt shame.

Through the years after that incident, I became hyper aware of just how horribly people treated others. Even my native and Mexican relative/friends were treated horrible. I didn't notice before that incident.

Laura became a guiding light for me, I learned many things from her and her family, by observation and inclusiveness, I became an ally.

She was a strong and an incredible woman! And very, very, brave, the way she protected her son from such a repulsive word, by coming to our house and telling us the truth behind that word. And this was in the early 70's.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@WalksWith God, for more people like that. It was a difficult lesson, but it was learned well because of the way it was taught.

Ignorance is among the most forgivable trespasses. Allowing it to continue knowing the difference is unconscionable. Thank you for sharing; it's how we all learn.
@WalksWith I’m glad that she took the time to explain it to you and that it didn’t damage your friendship. Children are innocent and simply repeat what they hear. They have to learn about the hatred behind it to recognize it.

I’ve spoken a lot here about my godson. His parents, two of my closest friends, are an interracial couple, he’s native Chumash and she’s Irish born, emigrated here when she was 20. Their second child, whom I’ve watched grow up, is one of my favorite people.

I’ve enjoyed watching him learn about his world, and his open, loving personality is both who he is and the result of the way his parents and extended family (including me, I hope) have been with him.
WalksWith · 51-55, F
@bijouxbroussard

Thank you for BA, Madam, Bijouxbroussard!

deadgerbil · 22-25
I'm of the same position. I wish it would be erased from people's lexicons. I'm mixed myself yet I wouldn't be caught dead saying it, and I find it nauseating when its modified variant ends up in music, etc. I'll roll my eyes when black people say it. It drips of ignorance when they say it, and when people outside that group say it, it trespasses overtly into malicious territory.
OceanRoses · F
No, I agree! so many names need a delete. Many... I'm mixed race so in my mixed race soul, I have a list.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Thanks for your input. Personally, I don't know why anyone even argues the merit of the word.

I carry labels myself that can be ugly and hateful - we all do. Why anyone would tread the ground of insults is beyond me. We're polite enough in society not to feed guests food they're allergic to but not to avoid speech that conjures centuries of pain.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
I share your hated of this word. Obviously it wasn't part of my personal experience growing up being a "suburban white girl" but I had a grandfather who would not allow any person or group or people to be disparaged in his presence. He believed strongly in the uniqueness of us all and the inherent value of us all. And he enforced that throughout our "clan".

I think we all have a tendency to want to understand the world around us. And in doing so, we often try to fit our observations into neat little boxes with labels on them. "This is me and my people" ... "That is you and your people." This is so dangerous. And I believe it is the genesis of racism and bigotry. 😔
Scribbles · 36-40, F
I don't agree with or understand the use of such offensive language. I hate that such offensive language gets used and encouraged at times. It just continues a bad cycle, I think. :/

Growing up, I understood that several of my friends would sometimes use offensive racial terms towards themselves or others in a way to either be self deprecating, defensive, take the power out of the word, or get a reaction out of someone...because that's what comedians and sports figures and musicians and other role models of the time were doing

I was always a bit of a mama figure to my friends, even as a teenager and would point out if I thought a comment was out of line, or say "You're a proud black/Latino/etc and you are an awesome person, etc, go show'em what you can do" or would ignore it if a racial slur was directed at me. Didn't know what else to do.

I hope someday racial hate and such offensive language will end. Because it just doesn't make sense and it's wrong. :/
@Scribbles Agreed. 🤗
I agree it should just be forgotten about whether you are black, white or more.
I [i]hate[/i] the word and [i]never[/i] use it.

I can't help but think some black people try to take the word back in attempt to weaponize it against whites. Like, I remember what you did! But, what they are doing is retraumatizing themselves and also allowing others to think it's OK to use it (They don't have a problem with it so I'll continue to say it). 😕

I don't think it's healthy and I don't think it's moving us in the right direction.

I don't know another race or nationality who uses disparaging words to represent themselves?
@LordShadowfire That at least, he backed off of. He’s still known for his routine about "the difference between black people and n******”. The word is still problematic.
@LordShadowfire

Ugh, Chris Rock. We share the same birthday and the same inclination to "push the envelop" off a cliff 😆 He did state in a 60 Minutes interview (2005) that he was done with that routine because he felt it gave racist a license to use it. I hope so. It is very problematic and it gives mixed signals to some individuals.
@whippersnapper I’m glad he came to realise that. Because that [b]is[/b] a big part of the problem. In the conversation I observed, the person kept insisting that if it was [b]really[/b] a "big deal" , black people wouldn’t use it.
Alas, not all of us use the term. And even those who do, usually don’t see it as "common usage" term. It would become a very "big deal" quickly, and I’ve seen people find it out the hard way. 🙁
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
I never use racial slurs of any kind. And yes there are many. Italians ... Whops, Germans krauts and so forth.

I just don't like degrading others.
@DeWayfarer A good way to be.
smiler2012 · 56-60
basically that word no matter who uses it and there ethic persuasion is classed as an offensive racist comment [bijouxbroussard]
@smiler2012 I agree.
Zaphod42 · 46-50, M
I’d love the word to simply vanish from the world’s collective consciousness. The most uncomfortable moment of my life was when my black/Filipina GF asked me what the N-word actually was. After dancing around saying it by trying to get her to realize what it was for herself, I finally had to to just say it. Talk about awkward and cringy 😣
@Zaphod42 Amazing that she honestly didn’t know. She’s been protected. My 21 year old niece, whose father is Irish & Inuit, got called that (as an insult) by someone after they’d asked her what she [b]was[/b]. She was about 7.
Zaphod42 · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard Oof! People can be so horrible.
My GF was born and raised in the Philippines and has only been in the US for 11 years now. While racism is definitely a thing there, apparently that particular word isn’t used 🤷‍♂️
@Zaphod42 It makes a big difference. I grew up hearing it directed at me a lot, even from adults. Just how things were then. I think it’s why I hate the word so deeply. It broke my heart when my niece first asked me about it.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
I never use that word and neither does my bf (he's biracial). He doesn't even like it when it's in a song. I mean we both take it with a grain of salt, because you hear it a lot in hip hop, but neither of us use it.
@DestroyerOfIdeologies Will Smith, Kid n’ Play, Queen Latifah, Diggable Planets, Public Enemy, Def Jeff…and it is possible radio didn’t play it. I wasn’t really into NWA or what they called the "gangsta" genre.
DestroyerOfIdeologies · 22-25, M
@bijouxbroussard didnt Public Enemy only say that cause they had a song saying they didnt want to be called the N word? hahahaha
Piper · 61-69, F
I've often often wondered why anyone who [i]isn't[/i] racist would want to or even [b]wonder[/b] why it isn't 'okay' for [i]them[/i] to use it, too. I realized it was an ugly, demeaning word for black people when I was a child, and that fact has surely not changed.
SW-User
[quote]But I don’t understand why anyone who isn’t black and doesn’t see him or herself as a racist would want to use a word with such an ugly history attached to it ? [/quote]

And that's it for me. I don't even need anything else to be explained. It's baffling why anyone would desire to use the word and the reasoning is "well you call yourselves that". It shows racist intent, lack of understanding and compassion.
room101 · 51-55, M
I’ve got one particular friend who usually greets me with “my n*****” followed by a hug. He very rarely uses the word with anybody else. I’ve never asked him but, I think I know why he greets me in this way.

Makes me cringe every bloody time.
SW-User
It’s a horrid word
hunkalove · 61-69, M
It is a stupid ugly word no matter who uses it. And so is "y'all," no matter who uses it.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard The South is the home of racism. Every time I hear someone say it I assume they are full of ignorance and hate.
@hunkalove That’s true, but y’all is basically "you all". When they [b]mean[/b] "you people", they have no problem saying it.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@bijouxbroussard Keen observation. I may have to share it.
HikingMan · 51-55, M
It could be that they use it to illustrate and personalize the struggle their race was put through for the last 100 + years ? But no matter their reasons, there is no reason for anyone other than them to use it as any kind of denominational adjective.
HikingMan · 51-55, M
@SW-User My mindset is that the word is defunct and serves not legitimate purpose in this world at all. But much like my point of view on abortion..., my views hold no legitimate sway upon the subject matter. If young black men wish to use the word as a misnoming type of camaraderie-like phrase, I am more than willing to accept that and leave them to it.

I do however take exception to anyone other than someone of color using the word in any type of terminology that isn't specifically pointed as a discussion of the word itself and it's possible uses and worth as a word in the English language.

If Will Smith wanted to slap a word out of someone's mouth, it should have been that word.
SW-User
@HikingMan I agree I don't care one way or another if they use the word I have no fight in it I don't care personally if they use it and how it's used mainstream. But my point was it's a little hypocritical and damaging to use it so loosely with it's baggage
@SW-User "The black community" is not a single entity, and there are disagreements about the use of the word, mostly generational. I’m among those who find it foolish to use a word that racists still use as an insult. I’m aware of the justifications that some people use for hanging onto it; I just don’t happen to agree with them.
FurryFace · 61-69, M
its like a Back guy calling another black guy Brother , but from a white or Caucasian male it seems a bad word to use , like a low life black guy from the Ghettos that might steal your stereo and sell it for Drugs
@FurryFace It’s still not the same. You won’t get fired for calling someone "brother".
FurryFace · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard man you're way out there , way too cold
@FurryFace It’s not an easy thing to explain, sorry.
Gangstress · 41-45, F
Yeh im with you and makes perfect sense
SW-User
I don't see the logic if it's offensive it's offensive this "pass" that people talk about doesn't make sense to me. If you directly call a black person the N word out of disrespect it's a racist gesture. If you do a handshake and say "what's up my N" is only racist if you don't have the pass?
@SW-User And it depends on who. Some people only get upset if it’s not another black person saying it—there are [b]no[/b] passes. I don’t like hearing it by [b]anyone[/b].
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
To answer your question: possibly because if a person is angry enough to want to cause hurt/pain, and they know that word will cause hurt and pain. People will often use words in anger precisely because they are the most hurtful words, not because they really believe in the meaning behind the word.
I have similar experiences with the P-Word, which of course does not carry the oppression of the n-word but is still a word used to offend, abuse and subjugate a race.

I have argued the case that this word is offensive and had people tell me it is not. They will excuse it to be like saying Aussie, and i will say it is not and should not be used.

If a someone says a word is offensive we should learn and understand why. If people continue to use it then they do not care and are being racist.
I think its about the tone and sentiment.. because basically the word just means black or was slang for someone from Nigeria.. but if someone is using the word in a derogatory, condescending and or hateful way then it’s offensive and not appreciated ..
@SStarfish I knew someone would come up with an “etymological” excuse for the word. No disrespect meant, but the people who were using it in the U.S. from the slave days through Jim Crow through today’s KKK and Stormfront couldn’t have cared [b]less[/b] what part of Africa our forbears were originally from. So, no, it is [b]not[/b] about "tone & sentiment". Speaking for myself and many whom I know, there no tone with which you could use that word to address me without causing offense.
Newsflash
Being racist is NOT, repeat, NOT exclusive to white people.
@Robynthebeautiful Did I say it was ? Defensive much ?
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
I'm a white dude and [i]I[/i] have been called that. Whatevs. I don't use the word, too many bad vibes attached to it.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@bijouxbroussard It was weird. A dude stopped me in traffic on the West Side Highway and accused me of cutting him off. I hadn't; he had simply smacked the wall and messed up his car. The cops came. Told them I had no idea what he was talking about and asked them if I could leave(they let me). The whole time he was dancing around(like maybe he wanted to fight) and called me "my n---" a bunch of times, the kind with one "g" if you spelled it out. He was a dumbass kid.
@uncalled4 Woah. Was he high, I wonder ? 🤨
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I find it's just easiest to view the word as a profanity. It's never okay to use it in polite society, and people who do just weren't raised better.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
The word is so bad that I don’t understand why anyone would choose to use it. I wish it would just stay in the past. I am sorry you had to explain this though.
empanadas · 31-35, M
Honestly I don't even use it. It's wild how some light skin Hispanics get a pass in saying it. To me, it's a word that can be left in the past.
@empanadas And they only get a pass with certain people. I agree it’s best left in the past.
empanadas · 31-35, M
@bijouxbroussard yeah but I see alot of light skin Puerto Ricans saying it which is weird because that word wasn't used for us in the Spanish speaking world. It's a word I always voided and was even asked by few of my friends who are African American as to why I don't use it.
@empanadas Different circles, different generations, I suppose. The way I was raised, no other groups allow outsiders to disparage them with racial slurs, so anyone using it was considered what you’d call a "hood rat" today, certainly no one with any pride as a black person.

 
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