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The American people are not onboard with what's going on in Iran.

The war is turning into the ultimate test of an operating principle that has guided Trump for decades: construct a narrative, declare it to be true and relentlessly force the world to submit to it. It has proved effective in Manhattan boardrooms, on reality television and even at the heart of power in Washington.

Trump is an influencer who believes in the power of suggestion. The American people are not on board with what’s going on because he cannot articulate an argument for why we’re there or what victory actually looks like. Above all it is immoral both in substance as well as in execution.
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U.S. Patriots are onboard
trollslayer · 51-55, M
@ChristinaNks *bootlickers* are on board
@ElwoodBlues my definition of patriots isn't going to be the woke version so my statement stands.
@ChristinaNks Congrats on your appeal to purity fallacy!!

BTW, I think it's really revealing to see how conservatives define 'Woke' when they're under oath:
Convivial · 26-30, F
And IMO firmly puts him into the same camp as the infamous sneak attack on pearl harbour by the Japanese
... Infamy that eventually led to their downfall....
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@independentone
Hopefully both Trump and Netanyahu will be assassinated and soon.

Let's not get drawn into playing their game.
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Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
Trump knows carpet bombing is easy and he has no problem taking (whatever passes for 'intelligence' out there) such action as long as it plays well in whatever polls he's been told to follow.
No matter how many apartment blocks his (or maybe Netanyahu's) missiles hit.

He made that stupid statement trying to encourage the population to 'rise up', and when people did he didn't follow through with support and as a result protesters have been arrested; beaten to death on the streets or taken away from their families presumably to be tortured for information (a familiar step in the Iranian crackdown on dissent playbook) Never to be seen again.

Any way you slice it for every 'positive' from this decision there seems to be ten 'negatives'.
And those of you that follow history will be aware that we're probably about to see a return to the old days of 'terrorist cells' infiltrating allies in the region if not far closer to home.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 But he's not crushing it is he.
If he were he'd be talking to who he sees as the replacement regime
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Picklebobble2 [media=https://youtu.be/PsLh2LPRPAA]
Musicman · 61-69, M
Actually you are sadly mistaken. Can you honestly tell me you would feel safe if Iran had nuclear capabilities? And that you are happy with the 90,000 civilian's they killed just for protesting the regime?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Musicman I don't follow any of the MSM but I do know what is going on in the world because of the people I do follow. They have a remarkable record of being correct even predicting the ruination of Ukraine when everyone else was sure that Russia would lose. Some of the ones I follow are personal acquaintances of people like Trump and Putin and Lavarov. Some have met Bibi and to a man detest him with a passion. Some are out of the US some are out of Europe and some are even Iranians.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Musicman
How safe would you feel if Iran had nuclear capabilities???

I would feel as safe if a cobra has venom and a bee can sting. Don't mess with them and kick them around the way we Americans are wont to do.
Musicman · 61-69, M
@sree251 I'm sorry it took so long for Obama to reply to your email telling you what to say. All I asked for was your honest opinion and sadly you can't form your own opinion. I think it's time we part company. I truly feel bad for you.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
Well said.

He usually skates by on most issues because his base won't speak up even when they don't agree with him. This is a little different. This fool's errand is affecting every family very obviously and in real time.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
You must be miserable when you can't find something to cry about.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
But all that has to happen for evil to triumph is for good people to do NOTHING. To be clear, saying you are not on board, or he is not my President is not enough to stop someone brandishing his own reality..😷
ArishMell · 70-79, M
You've described the weak point - the lack of explanation - so does no-one question that?
ron122 · 41-45, M
@sree251 Communists are not Americans.
@sree251 The are American members of our American House of Representatives who had the temerity to challenge the wisdom of tRump's attack on Iran.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Trump didn't start that operating principle. The US has done that since its inception. I think every nation does the same. Each nation has lies that it tells itself to keep the people believing in the purpose of said state.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
Trump didn't start that operating principle.

No, he did not. It's the operating principle of the Devil manifesting in Trump.
Vin53 · M
trump's lies are ubiquitous. There is literally nothing you can believe that comes out of his orange maw. Nothing.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Vin53

...and hookers peed on a bed in moscow, and hunters laptop is ruskie disinformation, and "less than 100" American citizens were abandoned to raghead terrorists, and President Trump loves dictators, and Joe Rogan said he’s not voting for Trump, and The Constitution ‘clearly states that a felon cannot take elective office’, and Melania Trump said she wants a divorce, and the bordes are secure, and biden is as sharp as a tack, and iran wants nukes to power their country, and the planet is cooling, and the planet is warming, and the planet is undergoing climate change, and there was plenty of water in LA, and boys are really girls, and 140 officers were assaulted on January 6, and pelosi never rejected National Guard troops before Jan 6, and the Biden Administration did not spend millions on “making mice transgender.”, and Gen. Colin Powell’s name has been removed from a list of notable Americans buried at Arlington Cemetery, and “no president” presided over more plane crashes during their first month in office as President Trump, and that ICE agents had conducted a “raid” at an elementary school, and Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., is “anti-vaccine” and President Trump “took down” President Obama’s portrait in the White House, and epstein introduced Trump to Melenia, and Vice President Vance “disparaged Elon Musk in private”, and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth requested nearly $140,000 in “upgrades” to his government residence, and President Trump was alone in wearing a blue suit to the funeral of Pope Francis, an American citizen was detained by authorities after he informed them he was, in fact, a citizen, and DOGE operatives attempted to gain access to secure spaces, and Harris would be among the most qualified presidents in recent U.S. history, diddy will be pardoned by Trump, and thomas crooks was a Republican....
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 Strange how the world bully (USA) has never attacked NK since NK announced that it had nukes.
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