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Make America Great Again!

We hear this all the time now. Intrinsic in this phrase is the presumption that the USA was great and is no longer. Is this what you believe?

To my many friends here who are not citizens or residents of the United States of America, I do (as always) welcome your input in the comments, but this post is primarily directed to my countrymen (and women). And yes, I am proud to be of what we like to call the land of the free and the home of the brave. However, please know that I have traveled extensively through many of your homelands and there is much to be proud of throughout this world. Your culture, just like mine, is part of a beautiful mosaic that makes up humanity.

So, to my fellow citizens ... Do you believe that the USA was great and is no longer? Because I do. But I suspect that many of us differ on what was great in the past and what is no longer great.

There was a time not too distant in the past when if you were not white, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant, then you were "lesser". God forbid you were none of the three (not white, not Anglo-Saxon, and not Protestant). Am I talking about a hundred years ago? Nope, I'm talking about the 1950's and 1960's and 1970's.

And what if you were gay or lesbian or some "other" on the orientation or gender spectrum? Well that was even worse because even the non-white, non-Anglo-Saxon, non-Protestants rejected you.

Now add in a little eccentricity and suddenly you were crazy and committed to an asylum. Right?

But that America was great, wasn't it?

I know, I know, that is not what most of you are referring to when you say America was great. My point here is that America wasn't so great for huge swaths of Americans. But you're going to tell me that what you most miss is American manufacturing and good jobs for the middle class, right? Is that the issue? Okay, let's look at that.

Our economy has, indeed, shifted its focus away from manufacturing with services and high-tech employing millions in jobs that did not exist a few decades ago. But with that shift comes an enormous reduction in workplace injury rates:

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Okay, so we manufacture less, right? Or do we?


Right, but we employ fewer people in manufacturing, right?


Nope. The truth here is that manufacturing output in dollars is way up, employment in the manufacturing sector is still number one across our economy, and Americans are safer in the workplace than ever before.

So what is the issue? I'm serious. I really want to know what decade you look to as the time when America was great and what about that decade do you want to bring back?





I said at the beginning that I do believe that the USA was great and is no longer. Do you want to know what I think needs to comeback? Well, a few things.

I'll start first with our politics... Democrats and Republicans have never agreed on everything, but there was a time when they agreed on many things. Compromise being first among them. For example, do you remember the last time we reformed our immigration laws? Yes, it was the result of a compromise between Republican President Ronald Reagan (of California) and Democrat Speaker of the House of Representatives Thomas "Tip" O'Neill (of Massachusetts). East coast, west coast. Liberal, conservative. Polar opposites who saw the importance of compromise. Too bad their law was never once backed with any significant enforcement.

But six years later the new Speaker of the House declared publicly and proudly that his role and the role of Republicans in Congress was to ensure that the new administration succeeded in nothing. What happened to the "loyal opposition"??

Second is our reputation in the world. As the new post-war world order was settling in, America's reputation was on the rise. When America spoke at the UN, evidence to back up our position was not needed because America wouldn't lie. Countries around the world WANTED to loan us land for bases because we didn't want to colonize their countries, we just want to trade fairly with them and wanted to protect the high seas and promote freedom and capitalism. We were, for a while, a shining city on a hill, a phrase used frequently by American presidents including John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan.

Today we are anything but. Today, we are moving to close ourselves off from the world, to pull back our presence, to abandon those we used to wrap our arms around. Where once we helped you because freedom and democracy were at risk, today we first assess your mineral wealth and your willingness to pay for our help. Personally I'm ashamed.





So, yes, let's Make America Great Again.

1) Let's elect politicians who represent our big picture views of liberalism or conservatism but who above all else seek unity and equal justice for all.

2) Let's reopen America and American business to the world and not hide behind protectionist policies that harm everyone.

3) Let's recommit to supporting and strengthening our alliances around the world to defend freedom, democracy, and (yes) capitalism.

The far right and the far left of American politics need to both be rejected. To my Republican friends, I will stand with you and proudly fly my flag when you reject those who would tear down others and treat them as lesser just because they are different. To my Democrat friends, I will stand with you when you stand up for law and order and reject those who seek the destruction of our society.

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ViciDraco · 41-45, M
What do you mean by those who sell the destruction of our society?

As someone on the left I want to see more taxation upon the wealthy in order to fund better public investment. The way it was in the 40s and 50s. I'm good with a robust auditing system to help make sure that extra income doesn't feed corruption. But I strongly support public works for infrastructure and essential services and public housing programs that are designed for mixed-wealth occupancy (public housing was actually really good in the nation until it was changed to only be available to the poor and then concentrated poverty in public housing neighborhoods became a problem).

I want the nation to do better because I love it. I don't want anyone to destroy it. I don't know why anyone believes this narrative that the left supports people who want to destroy our society.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 I give up! You refuse to read my words as written. Again, it is my opinion, after practicing medicine as a physician for 50 years, that everyone should have access to health care, period no exception.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 And as I've said multiple times, we agree on that!

I've said many times that I am proud to be from Massachusetts where we had universal healthcare long before it was ever a national conversation. We both advocate for universal access to care.

I don't know why you keep arguing this aspect when I've repeatedly agreed with it.

But I would like to know what initial statement I made that was misleading.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 you keep arguing against it being a right, that is my argument, I have kept trying to get that into your head! The discussion regarding universal health care started well before Mass under a republican governor finally passed legislation. The model was what Obama tried to have the Congress pass, but special interest groups fought successfully to limit its ability to provide such. The medical insurance mandate is what killed it, the far right will fight anything and everything they consider to be infringing on the right to do nothing!
CassandraSissy · 26-30, T
As an outsider (from the UK), I don't think you can ever say that it was 'great'. Now, before y'all shoot me, I'll explain...

Each and every generation find somethings that they love about their country alongside things that they dislike - pioneer spirit Vs slaughter of Native Americans, the birth of jazz Vs the great depression etc.

That's only natural.

We all have our rose tinted glasses on about an era, a time and space...but, was it really? Was it wholly?

The UK. I heard lots about the late 90's..'Cool Britannia' etc...but...was it?

So, what I'm stating, if you let me sweeties, is that it's 'good' or 'better', but never 'great'.

Again, as an outsider, I sadly see a nation, currently, that is ripping itself apart. Fear. Disinformation. Corruption. Lies. Marginalised people and groups.

But you CAN make it better.

🤔
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@CassandraSissy Thank you, and welcome!

I think we mostly agree, except maybe on the definition of "Great". Great does not mean perfect. I don't think the perfect nation-state exists anywhere in the world, nor has it ever, nor can it ever. Nation-states are the creations of humanity and as such will always fall far short of perfection. But does that mean that greatness cannot be achieved?

Certainly the British Empire saw periods of greatness. But was it ever perfect? No, of course not. Perfection is an unreasinable standard by which to measure greatness.

So what is greatness among nation-states? Certainly the respect of peer nation-states is one indicator. The standard of living among one's citizens is another. But on both these metrics, progress will be uneven. That is the nature of humanity.

And, yes, moving always toward a more perfect union is always the goal. :)
CassandraSissy · 26-30, T
@sarabee1995 Absolutely, but just sayin' that 'greatness' shouldn't be a stationary exercise, like...tick..got that, sweetie.

Greatness is an aspiration. Something to forever go onwards towards. to strive for. But never reach.

Yes?

Cass 😘
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@CassandraSissy No, it should never be treated like a check box to be completed and then forgotten. That's not what I'm saying.

But in the pursuit of perfection, we can at times touch on greatness.

I think the allies coming together in the thirties and forties to fight fascism was such a time. I think the aspirations of the fifties and sixties and man walking on the moon was another. I think we've had many periods of greatness in the history of humanity.
Ambroseguy80 · 56-60, M
Yes, I do believe America was great, is not currently, but will be again with the proper leadership. This considers all things as a whole that make American citizens prosper.

Manufacturing and gainful employment as well as a strong defense.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Ambroseguy80 Manufacturing is bigger in America today than it has ever been. You know this, right?
TexChik · F
@sarabee1995 A great deal of our manufacturing was sent overseas by the Democrats. We are only now getting back up to speed on steel. The components of most of our meds still come from China. Manufacturing is coming back thanks to the Trump tariffs, and the jobs that come with it.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@TexChik Some manufacturing moved overseas for a ton of reasons; some new manufacturing started up here. The bottom line is that the day the current administration was sworn in, American manufacturing was at nearly an all-time high and employment in the manufacturing sector accounted for the plurality of American employment. It is a myth that we don't make anything anymore.
Looking on from Canada I am relieved and delighted to hear your sane and well-informed voice, @Sarabee. I think you have mentioned that you don't ever intend to run for president, but I hope you will someday have a position of great power and influence in your beautiful and troubled country.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 it isn't a movement per se, it is people on that movement. They scream that the regulations hurt industry and so we should eliminate them. Again, it is hard for me to say it is my opinion about this, they have stated so.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Weird. I pay pretty close attention to both extremes in American politics and I haven't seen anyone advocating what you're saying.

🤔

Unless maybe you're just exaggerating to make a point?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 which point, the relaxation of regulations? Do you want me to post the comments or are you willing to do the research yourself? They are relaxing so many Obama and Biden era regulations that protect our air and water, that almost every public health organization has complained vocally.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
That is what bewilders most outsiders. America has wealth, and until Trump, levels of economic growth and economic statistics that provided a benchmark for the rest of the world. Levels of economic inequality mean that not everyone shared in this success, but Biden's investment in public infrastructure was a small step towards redressing this.

Then along came a billionaire property magnate/financial speculator with an almost religious zeal for restoring manufacturing jobs in industries that he has no understanding of . .
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@sarabee1995 Some of our politicians are susceptible to a similar nostalgia. Re-opening clothes factories in regions whose historical identities were based on textiles sounds great until it dawns that modern people no longer want to work 12 hour shifts in noisy, dangerous conditions, for low pay.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@SunshineGirl Exactly! I live in New England. The region is full of old mill buildings that used to manufacturer fine linens from the cotton grown down south and then export those fabrics to England and France and elsewhere. Do I think we need to return the weaving of fabric to New England? Of course not. Our economy has wonderfully moved beyond mill work and, besides, those mill buildings make amazing converted lofts!!
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@sarabee1995 They do, often with attractive waterfront locations!
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
Many countries have a problem of legacy and past glory. They have to reinvent themselves.

Singapore hasn't hit that stage yet, but I see creeping signs of complacency. That's dangerous.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Longpatrol Let's hope the re-inventions go well.
Pfuzylogic · M
I think when a lot of this became a public push it was during Obama’s terms and I’m thinking (especially after the Bush 43 economic debacle)
what in the world is the problem.
Then I look back into our political history and maga is a reprise from our past of isolation movements for our country. His current (big, beautiful bill reminds me of reagan when he promised a balanced budget because we has 100 billion for our national debt. He slammed welfare by calling the recipients “welfare queens” and shut down many of those receiving mental health treatments and threw them out on the streets where they became homeless or found a new home with “three hots and a cot” in jail. Now I wonder seriously what Wlon got for his 250 million dollars that we haven’t been told about. Rumors have started that personal data has been shared with our “good friend” vlad.
Then we have this new spending of the gold dome to protect us which is a reprise for the Strategic Defense Initiative SDI which was going to cost a trillion dollars in the 80s.
Of course now the cost now is no more than 20 billion dollars. Do I trust trump on this estimate of the cos? No Way!!
There is no wasteful spending now unless one has contempt for the poor. Hopefully donnie won’t do too much damage by the end of his term.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Pfuzylogic There is much here that I agree with and some that I don't, but I want to keep the comments on the subject of the post. Both the left and the right need to cleanse from among them their most extreme camps. Only then can the rest of us come together and get anything done.
TexChik · F
Unfortunately, we can not forget about the misdeeds and the bad players who Biden brought in illegally and who the left now tries to defend. They need them here to illegally count them in the census and prevent the loss of representative power in blue states, by wrongly denying that to those in red states or districts. Illegal aliens are allowed to vote in State elections (illegally) in Blue states...again in an attempt to keep political power they do not deserve.

Our children and women are being raped and killed, drug and human trafficking from Mexico by illegals brought into this country. Libs say , "its Trump's fault" because they know there is currently no equal justice under the law. Libs have been allowed to pack the courts with 240 activist district court judges (according to Schumer) to continue the lawfare that they have been using in an attempt to put Trump in jail and kept out of the white house.

Universities are awarding scholarships to foreign students while ignoring American students. That must stop. The dumbing down of our young people is a malicious and intentional attack. Now, these universities have chosen to defy the government and have lost all taxpayer funding. Now the government is denying the visas of the students these schools put ahead of our own! Being allowed into this country is a privilege, not a right. Foreigners have no rights as non-citizens when they break the law. So sayeth the Constitution.

Those responsible need to be swept up, charged, and, if guilty of treason, pay with their lives. Without justice, there can be no America. The far left wanted to pump us all full of the COVID vax, which they knew would destroy lives and kill people...and yet nothing is being done.

Until we get our house in order, any country involved in the attempt to destroy this country deserves the tariffs Trump has levied on them. Until the media is required by law (again) to report fact based news and not propaganda corruption will continue. Are there corrupt actors on the Republican side? Absolutely. We know who they are and they are being investigate. I am sure the left regrets the chant "no one is above the law" they spewed about Trump. Now that their false claims have been rectified Justice is coming for them, and they have the audacity to whine? Unbelievable.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@TexChik We are in agreement that persons here without benefit of legal status need to be removed. No problem there. No amnesty. Removal to their home country.

But your claim that those persons have no rights is simply not true. They have fewer rights than you or I. But they have rights. And those rights are detailed in the Constitution. That's all I'm saying.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@TexChik Enforcing the law is one thing. Marginalising a whole group in society and ascribing to them harms that they are not responsible for is quite another. It is an age old tactic of tyrants and despots used to deflect attention from their own failings. As I said above, when all the "illegals" have been deported, who will be next for singling out?

And it is not a crime to seek asylum, irrespective of the mode of entry.
TexChik · F
@SunshineGirl 75 % ofvthe deportees were either violent criminals being held or those who had deportation orders. Marginalizing a whole group that knowingly entered this country illegally and will take jobs and entitlements intended for Americans? Boohoo! The are already criminals. They have to go! Who says ( besides you) that we want to single anyone out. 1,000,000 illegals have self deported.
Northwest · M
Good luck. America today is governed by an administration that believes in "winner takes all", and that they have a clear mandate to do so.

Kristi Noem, stated it clearly: Trump brought Marines to California, to "liberate" it from liberals, and proceeded to handcuff a US Senator.

What's there to compromise on here? How is it possible?

The claim that people left of center stand for "breaking the law" is fake news.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Northwest You claimed I said the people left of center stood for breaking the law. I did not.

Among the people left of center, at the extreme, there are absolutely people who seek to tear down our society. Most Democrats are not among this extreme group. But I ask my Democrat friends to call out those extreme segments of the left and reject them.

Again, I am asking all to reject the far left and the far right of American politics.
Northwest · M
@sarabee1995

You claimed I said the people left of center stood for breaking the law. I did not.

About that reading comprehension, here's what I actually said:

The claim that people left of center stand for "breaking the law" is fake news.

If you mean you, I will say YOU.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Northwest Sorry, my bad. I did assume that since you were commenting on my post in the comment section of my post that you were referring to my post. I had no idea that you were pulling some rando factoid from the ether and tossing it here. I'll try to remember in the future as we discuss things that you tend to randomly go off topic. 🤣🤣🤣

Lol, sorry ... I do know that was a bit harsh and I mean it all in the best possible way. Be well! ;)
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
None of your graphs apply. That's endemic. Not systemic

We have a serious systemic problem.

Yet this saying does apply.

Just because your baby is dirty, smelly and crying it's head off like a banshee, doesn't mean you throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The actual smell, shrieking, dirt is capitalism! At least recognize it for what it is!

Don't throw out the baby though!
Clean it up for Pete's sake!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@sarabee1995 Even at the 70s that a life time ago! You're talking over 50 years it hasn't changed!

That's longer than you have been alive!

It's FROZEN!

I would be happy with a change in the constitution every 20 years! Republicans refuse to change at all!

BTW the 26th amendment was passed so Richard Nixon could get more conservative votes! So he could get more military votes.

All the liberals were protesting the military draft. He was shortly afterwards impeached for other such schemes.

Confirmation!

You're right that many young people involved in the anti-war movement were actively seeking to avoid the draft, and there was a significant divide between those who supported the war and those who opposed it.

Nixon's support for the 26th Amendment can be seen as a political maneuver, as he aimed to appeal to younger voters, including those in the military who tended to be more conservative. The amendment did indeed change the political landscape by enfranchising a younger demographic, which included those who were more likely to support military policies.

This is how capitalism increases. Through schemes!
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@DeWayfarer You really think 18-20 years olds are on average more conservative??? 🤣🤣🤣

Anyway, regarding amending the Constitution, neither side (right or left) ever supports amendments proposed by the other. That's like telling me the sky is blue. This is not news.

Changes to the highest law in the land should be difficult. They should be more difficult than passing a bi-partial bill through Congress. Supermajorities can only be achieved when both sides of the political spectrum agree on a change. The Constitution should NOT be subject ever to majoritarianism.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@sarabee1995
You really think 18-20 years olds are on average more conservative???

You are ignoring the times back in 1971 as well as the situation in the military. The draft dodgers were a serious thing. And NONE of them were conservative.

Even Trump was a Democrat back then with his draft dodging bone spur excuse!

Heck even Ronald Reagan was a Democrat back then as the president of the screen actors guild.

The military was whom Nixon wanted to vote!

The hippie movement alone refused to vote! They had no permanent address to vote!

BTW my half brother was a conservative in the military back then! All his military friends were conservative as well!

I grew up in the 1960s! I knew what it was like! I was even involved in politics at the time. I wrote president Ford in 1976!

Changes to the highest law in the land should be difficult. They should be more difficult than passing a bi-partial bill through Congress. Supermajorities can only be achieved when both sides of the political spectrum agree on a change. The Constitution should NOT be subject ever to majoritarianism.


And I totally disagree! Not saying it should be easy yet not impossible, which is the current situation.

We haven't had a ⅔ majority since Clinton in either party in both house and Senate.

Even Clinton had to have some from the Republican party to vote for something in the bill of rights. Not all Democrats agreed with it.

The Constitution is FROZEN! And for the last 54 years at minimum;

Once again...
Everything MUST change or cease to exist!
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@DearAmbellina2113 Thank you!
Lostpoet · M
I think immorality has destroyed our country. We are taught as kids to look out for ourself. Drugs are ok. Being alpha gets you the hot girl. Putting someone under makes you smart.

I think Trump being president is a direct reflection of this.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Lostpoet
We are taught as kids ...

I wasn't taught any of those things as a kid.
Lostpoet · M
@sarabee1995 Not by School, TV, and Radio?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Lostpoet I'll say again, I wasn't taught any of those things as a kid. Nope, not even by school, TV, or radio.
Yes America is and remains great because we have this thing called a Republic and our constitution with its checks and balances has thus far endured. It is still the best form of government ever devised because it has ensured a peaceful transfer of power for hundreds of years.
@sarabee1995 it was never resplendent but of course polishing is always needed
@BiasForAction here in Canada, I had always believed that the US had a robust system of checks and balances. It seemed that an American president had less raw power than a Canadian prime minister in our system. But since the very beginning of this current presidency, the checks and balances seem non-existent or ineffectual, and you have a president who functions as a dictator. I hope the system as you described it will somehow still be salvageable.
@ThePatientAnarchist the current president is pushing the boundaries and crossing the line in some cases. The courts are intervening. In the first term of the current President, he lost hundreds of court cases most notably over the 2020 election. The us system of checks and balances is still holding. The midterm congressional elections next year will likely result in more checks on the executive.
ineedadrink · 51-55, M
Excellent post.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@ineedadrink Thank you, kind sir.
ArtieKat · M
Very well presented, Sara
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@ArtieKat Thanks!
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sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@PDXNative1986 No, those weren't great things and I think I covered that a bit. Our current system of government as defined by our Constitution was not intended to be perfect when it was ratified. Rather, it was intended to help us form a "more perfect union". More perfect than what we had before. And on a path to improve, striving continually toward that continually more perfect union. And I think we are on that path, with the occasional correction needed. That is what this post is about. A needed correction.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
How bout when George Wallace shamefully stood in the school house door to protest desegregation and encouraged crowds to throw Rocks at the incoming Negro students? Was That america, being Great? P.s I'm white. Racism is vile.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@PDXNative1986 Your race is not and should not be relevant. Racism in all it's forms is indeed vile.
This seems a good post to encourage topic discussion.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@froggtongue If so, then judging by the comments so far it has succeeded. 😉
@sarabee1995 much less hate fueled by emotional attachment to ideologies and more talking points than most other posts.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@froggtongue Thank you. I do try to refrain from posting hate-filled diatribes.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
No Comment

As directed. 🤣
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@KiwiBird On the contrary, my friend. I said I welcome your input in the comments. I only said what I said to make it clear that my words in the post were directed to my fellow Americans.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@sarabee1995
San Francisco in obvious distress

sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@KiwiBird Yes, the upside down flag ... 😔
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
Wow, have you missed the whole point.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@nudistsueaz Then, please, educate me. What is the point?
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@sarabee1995 I don't think you would understand.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@nudistsueaz Try me. 🙂
markinkansas · 61-69, M
a blast from the past .. for trump by trump .. and no this is not la .[media=https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w]

its worse
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@markinkansas Was this just a random place to drop that or are you making some point relative to my post?
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@sarabee1995 great in the past was your words this does not look great
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
Sadly, not possible under the current Government
@ShenaniganFoodie I think the point is that we can change that. By voting who takes the seats as well as anything else that we could do as a body of citizens. The government is made to serve the people and we need to remind these politicians of that.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@ShenaniganFoodie What is not possible?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@froggtongue Oh man!!! I wish it were possible to declare a reply to a comment as best comment. You get it! All the power, every last bit of it, rests with the People
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sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@jshm2 I actually have a life. One that I quite enjoy, thank you. Today I spent most of it out with my fiancé. What did you do, other than troll posts online?
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
@jshm2 That was unnecessarily harsh, she didn't insult you in her post. Lets all just chill. Not everything is personal.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@Longpatrol Thanks friend. Not a problem though. I know when I make my political posts that I'm invariably going to piss off some people. It goes with the territory. 🤷‍♀
jackjjackson · 70-79, M
Very well written and fair. Interesting to see the vast majority of criticism from thr left / far left. As a slightly right of center Republican moderate that rejects the policies from both sides that created the deficit my belief is that the left / far left led by elites believe that can go on forever. I do not. I am happy and relieved to see something different being done in an attempt to change the deficit path to ruin. The left / far left seem to believe that by being louder and more aggressive they have the right to control all of us. That is wrong and has been rejected at least for now. Hopefully that rejection will continue. As the process of positive change ignoring that minority noise moves on they are simply getting louder doing nothing positive because that is all they know.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@jackjjackson Every political poll I've ever subjected myself to has described me as slightly right is center, but only because that is the average of my very liberal/progressive views in some areas and my very conservative views in other areas. I could not today join either major American party... but then, neither of them would have me.

Yes, I am happy something different is being done about spending, but I am not at all happy with the methods employed.

 
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