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Make America Great Again!

We hear this all the time now. Intrinsic in this phrase is the presumption that the USA was great and is no longer. Is this what you believe?

To my many friends here who are not citizens or residents of the United States of America, I do (as always) welcome your input in the comments, but this post is primarily directed to my countrymen (and women). And yes, I am proud to be of what we like to call the land of the free and the home of the brave. However, please know that I have traveled extensively through many of your homelands and there is much to be proud of throughout this world. Your culture, just like mine, is part of a beautiful mosaic that makes up humanity.

So, to my fellow citizens ... Do you believe that the USA was great and is no longer? Because I do. But I suspect that many of us differ on what was great in the past and what is no longer great.

There was a time not too distant in the past when if you were not white, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant, then you were "lesser". God forbid you were none of the three (not white, not Anglo-Saxon, and not Protestant). Am I talking about a hundred years ago? Nope, I'm talking about the 1950's and 1960's and 1970's.

And what if you were gay or lesbian or some "other" on the orientation or gender spectrum? Well that was even worse because even the non-white, non-Anglo-Saxon, non-Protestants rejected you.

Now add in a little eccentricity and suddenly you were crazy and committed to an asylum. Right?

But that America was great, wasn't it?

I know, I know, that is not what most of you are referring to when you say America was great. My point here is that America wasn't so great for huge swaths of Americans. But you're going to tell me that what you most miss is American manufacturing and good jobs for the middle class, right? Is that the issue? Okay, let's look at that.

Our economy has, indeed, shifted its focus away from manufacturing with services and high-tech employing millions in jobs that did not exist a few decades ago. But with that shift comes an enormous reduction in workplace injury rates:

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Okay, so we manufacture less, right? Or do we?


Right, but we employ fewer people in manufacturing, right?


Nope. The truth here is that manufacturing output in dollars is way up, employment in the manufacturing sector is still number one across our economy, and Americans are safer in the workplace than ever before.

So what is the issue? I'm serious. I really want to know what decade you look to as the time when America was great and what about that decade do you want to bring back?





I said at the beginning that I do believe that the USA was great and is no longer. Do you want to know what I think needs to comeback? Well, a few things.

I'll start first with our politics... Democrats and Republicans have never agreed on everything, but there was a time when they agreed on many things. Compromise being first among them. For example, do you remember the last time we reformed our immigration laws? Yes, it was the result of a compromise between Republican President Ronald Reagan (of California) and Democrat Speaker of the House of Representatives Thomas "Tip" O'Neill (of Massachusetts). East coast, west coast. Liberal, conservative. Polar opposites who saw the importance of compromise. Too bad their law was never once backed with any significant enforcement.

But six years later the new Speaker of the House declared publicly and proudly that his role and the role of Republicans in Congress was to ensure that the new administration succeeded in nothing. What happened to the "loyal opposition"??

Second is our reputation in the world. As the new post-war world order was settling in, America's reputation was on the rise. When America spoke at the UN, evidence to back up our position was not needed because America wouldn't lie. Countries around the world WANTED to loan us land for bases because we didn't want to colonize their countries, we just want to trade fairly with them and wanted to protect the high seas and promote freedom and capitalism. We were, for a while, a shining city on a hill, a phrase used frequently by American presidents including John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan.

Today we are anything but. Today, we are moving to close ourselves off from the world, to pull back our presence, to abandon those we used to wrap our arms around. Where once we helped you because freedom and democracy were at risk, today we first assess your mineral wealth and your willingness to pay for our help. Personally I'm ashamed.





So, yes, let's Make America Great Again.

1) Let's elect politicians who represent our big picture views of liberalism or conservatism but who above all else seek unity and equal justice for all.

2) Let's reopen America and American business to the world and not hide behind protectionist policies that harm everyone.

3) Let's recommit to supporting and strengthening our alliances around the world to defend freedom, democracy, and (yes) capitalism.

The far right and the far left of American politics need to both be rejected. To my Republican friends, I will stand with you and proudly fly my flag when you reject those who would tear down others and treat them as lesser just because they are different. To my Democrat friends, I will stand with you when you stand up for law and order and reject those who seek the destruction of our society.

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Looking on from Canada I am relieved and delighted to hear your sane and well-informed voice, @Sarabee. I think you have mentioned that you don't ever intend to run for president, but I hope you will someday have a position of great power and influence in your beautiful and troubled country.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@ThePatientAnarchist Thank you! I do seek a seat at the table, just not at the head. ☺
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 also look at the OSHA laws that protect the worker from the destructive actions of the bosses. I saw the way worked were treated before such laws, read Sinclair's The Jungle.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 I have read it.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 good for you, what do you think would happen if the country abandoned all protective regulations?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Is anyone here advocating for that?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 they have already started! there is even a drive to lower the age for children to work, to fill in for the loss of immigrant labor!

here is reference to Florida allowing younger children to work:

https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/fast-facts-hb-1225-and-sb-918-would-further-erode-child-labor-protections-in-florida

Here is what I got from a Google with AI search, some references later:

The recent substantial cuts to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) significantly weaken the ability of both NIOSH and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) to protect worker safety. NIOSH, primarily a research and recommendation body, provides critical data and guidance that OSHA uses to develop and enforce safety standards. With NIOSH's capacity reduced, OSHA will face challenges in establishing new standards, identifying emerging hazards, and providing employers with the resources they need.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Impact on NIOSH:
Loss of Research Capacity:
NIOSH's research programs, including the National Occupational Research Agenda (NORA), are being halted, which will lead to a decrease in critical studies on workplace hazards across various industries.
Weakened Oversight:
Programs like the National Personal Protective Technology Laboratory, responsible for evaluating respirators, are being dismantled, potentially leaving workers vulnerable in future health crises.
Disrupted Investigations:
NIOSH's Health Hazard Evaluations, which investigate workplace disease outbreaks, are being discontinued, hindering the ability to address and prevent future incidents.
Merging with Broader Agencies:
NIOSH is being merged into a new agency, the Administration for a Healthy America, raising concerns that worker safety research may not remain a priority.
Impact on OSHA:
Delayed or Weakened Safety Standards:
OSHA relies on NIOSH's research to justify and develop new safety standards. With fewer studies, OSHA may be less equipped to introduce necessary protections for workers.
Reduced Enforcement Capabilities:
NIOSH helps OSHA identify emerging hazards. Without NIOSH's research, OSHA may struggle to stay ahead of new threats to worker safety.
Limited Employer Resources:
NIOSH provides employers with research-based recommendations for best practices. Reduced NIOSH resources will mean fewer guidance materials for employers to ensure compliance and protect their employees.
Overall Implications:
Diminished Worker Protections:
The combined effect of these changes will likely lead to a decline in workplace safety and health protections for American workers.
Increased Costs:
Workplace injuries and illnesses already cost the US economy billions of dollars annually. Reduced safety efforts will likely exacerbate these costs.
Dependence on Research:
NIOSH's role in providing evidence-based recommendations is crucial for effective workplace safety. Without NIOSH, OSHA will be more reliant on its own regulatory efforts, potentially overlooking important research findings and best practices.

https://www.ishn.com/articles/114674-the-demise-of-niosh-could-osha-be-next
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/whats-lost-with-niosh-cuts-qa-with-david-christiani/
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-04-01/major-job-cuts-at-niosh-pose-risks-to-worker-safety-critics-warn
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Sorry, I'm not really interested in copy/paste discussions with AI.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 did you look at the references I added? Please don't start responding like the characters on SW that I have no respect for. If you aren't happy with my research of the subject, go ahead and do your own. Please show me how what I found is incorrect. I spent much of my adult life working with workers damaged on the job.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 A lot of people jump right to AI when in discussions. I'm here to talk to real people. I'm not asking you or anyone to do any research, not am I interested in receiving or reading the research. I'm interested in your opinions and the opinions of others. You will find that I respond far more to original thought than I do to links and copy/paste posts. Sorry. 😔
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 but, I base my opinions on the results of my research. I started out with my opinions then explain how/why.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Okay, to recap, you asked:
what do you think would happen if the country abandoned all protective regulations?

I responded:
Is anyone here advocating for that?

Okay, I suppose this was kinda responsive to the question:
they have already started! there is even a drive to lower the age for children to work, to fill in for the loss of immigrant labor!

So my response:
Okay so no one is really advocating for the "abandonment of all protective regulations", but Florida is making adjustments to it's labor laws? Got it.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 MAGA is systematically reversing these regulations. This is not my opinion, it is fact. I have you an example, there are many more. If you question my opinion, then how else can i prove my opinions are correct without sending a link to the facts?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Okay so you are saying that it is the MAGA movement who is advocating for the abandonment of all protective regulations? I don't see this happening.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 it isn't a movement per se, it is people on that movement. They scream that the regulations hurt industry and so we should eliminate them. Again, it is hard for me to say it is my opinion about this, they have stated so.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, FVIP
@samueltyler2 Weird. I pay pretty close attention to both extremes in American politics and I haven't seen anyone advocating what you're saying.

🤔

Unless maybe you're just exaggerating to make a point?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sarabee1995 which point, the relaxation of regulations? Do you want me to post the comments or are you willing to do the research yourself? They are relaxing so many Obama and Biden era regulations that protect our air and water, that almost every public health organization has complained vocally.