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Who owns the moon?

What happened to the flags Apollo astronauts left on the moon in 1969? The Homestead Act of 1862 granted land to settlers, who had staked claims on frontier territory after 5 years of doing so. The Chinese could claim the dark side of the moon as their territory. This would depend on US control of contested domains on the lunar surface. If we loose hegemony on Earth to China, we must not cede America's domination on the moon.

Earth's only natural satellite has far more strategic geopolitical importance than Greenland. Forget about Mars. Trump must get Elon Musk to focus on the moon.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
A lot to unpack there. Starting with the homestead act not applying outside the boundaries of the US.. There are even questions about how much of Antarctica the US claims.. Then there is the bit about one natural satellite. There are indeed several. I have numbers from 5 to 14. All much small and with weird orbits, impossible with the naked eye.. Arguably much better suited as secret Chinese or other bases.. Finally, for Musk to get serious, he has to shoot for Mars. a truly independent world of his own. (Which you can expect him to plant his own flag on and declare himself Emperor.) So the moon is just a staging post..😷
sree251 · 41-45, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
A lot to unpack there.

You are too old to unpack anything.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sree251 Was there really a point to that? Did it bring any value to the debate? Or was it just some stupid cheap shot that seemed like a good idea at the time because you didnt have an actual reply??😷
Convivial · 26-30, F
I think by international treaty it's unclaimable..... Just liked the islands in the south China sea ....🙄
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Convivial The islands in the South China Sea was claimed by China as part of a 2000 year-old imperial realm that predated the arrival of western colonialists from Britain and Europe. The earliest western maritime map of subject sea was drawn by the Spaniards in 1734, less than 300 years ago. International treaties are latter day agreements that dismiss not only China's claim but her very existence before arrival of the west. Today, no western gunboats - not even nuclear powered aircraft carrier strike groups of the US Navy - can impose on the Chinese. I think that not only the islands but the entire South China Sea is claimable by China.

As for the moon, the US is ahead in space technology. Trump needs to get Musk to focus on the moon. We need to colonize the lunar satellite, nuclear arm it, and claim it as a US military base. No landing - not even lunar orbiting - by aliens is allowed.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@sree251 not according to international law of the sea...I think territoriality only extends 20k or thereabouts...
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Convivial What is the law? It's a rule made by mom.
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
My mate Cornelius, he has an arrangement with a bloke that knew HG Wells.
LordT · 22-25, M
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Treaty
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@LordT aka, a nothing burger treaty.

no country actually capable of reaching moon has ratified it.
@sree251 to Mae West's remains 😒the moon of course! What did you start this post off with?
@LordT The Moon Treaty is irrelevant as no nation with the capacity to go there has signed it.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
I own the moon. I'm open to reasonable offers though. 🌕🤑
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Dark side of the moon belongs to Pink Floyd
Colonizers think they do and we can't stop you.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Roundandroundwego Human nature, duh.
@sree251 only a small portion of the world finds that philosophy to be defensible. The aggressive part.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Roundandroundwego
only a small portion of the world finds that philosophy to be defensible. The aggressive part.

Philosophy is of the mind while territoriality is a basic instinct.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@jshm2 Not yet, not until the US has military capability to control access to the moon.
I support a moon colony if Musk pays for it and lives there.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom We are talking about a moon-based, nuclear-armed military platform for surveillance and control of Earth.
Leave it alone. Colonization (I doubt will happen) would interfere with my photography.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Nobody owns the moon... 🤔As far as I know.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Sidewinder And how much do you know?
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@sree251 I know a thing or two.

For instance, I know that unlike the Earth, the Moon is uninhabited, therefore it's very unlikely that anyone owns it.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Sidewinder
For instance, I know that unlike the Earth, the Moon is uninhabited, therefore it's very unlikely that anyone owns it.

There was a time when the wild west - anywhere west of the MIssissippi - was uninhabited. Now, everyone owns a piece of it.
Give it time..
blackrock and vanguard
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
The moon isn't even real
sree251 · 41-45, M
@deadgerbil I like that.

According to Chuang Tsu, the moon is his companion on a moonlit walk.
ArtieKat · M
"The man-in-the-moon" obviously! 🤷‍♀🤣
I want the moon cheese
GunFinger · F
The minions
swirlie · 31-35, F
The USA never actually went to the moon in 1969. That was all BS. None of it happened.
@swirlie Then why didn’t the USSR expose us? It would have been incredibly embarrassing.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@LeopoldBloom
For the USSR to expose the USA, would expose the USSR's truth that they never even tried to get there.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom Nobody believes the Russians. US propaganda has baked it into our heads.
swirlie · 31-35, F
America does not have domination of the moon. Don't be so arrogant.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@swirlie Arrogance is the American way. Deal with it.

 
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