It’s impossible to call yourself a patriot with any conviction if you hate half of the people in the country for voting differently to you.

Those who would support and try to return an insurrectionist to office are not patriots. Make no mistake he was attempting to usurp power from the legitimately elected president.

@Reason10 says
Trump brought SIXTY ONE court cases at different levels in different states with different teams of lawyers, and NONE of them found any evidence of significant election fraud. NONE of them.

Trump also asked his attorney general (and one of his staunchest allies), William Barr, to have the 112,000 member Dept of Justice look into election fraud. I don't know how many members were assigned to look for fraud, but with 112,000 members they have plenty of resources. Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

But wait! There's more!!

In the days after his 2020 loss, Trump's campaign commissioned two different independent firms to look into 2020 election fraud: Simpatico Software, headed by Ken Block, and Berkeley Research Group. Neither found any significant fraud.

In the months after Biden took power, the republican states of Arizona and Georgia carried out very careful hand recounts and examinations of voter rolls, including the notorious Arizona "Cyber Ninja" hand count. Both found no significant fraud and no signs of funny business.

Ariz. hand count https://azsos.gov/election/2020-general-election-hand-count-results
Georgia signature audit https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/
Georgia Independent machine audit https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/42925055/no-sign-of-foul-play-found-in-audit-of-georgias-voting-machines
Mich: https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-47796-553386--,00.html
Georgia: https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/
Arizona https://apnews.com/article/technology-biden-cabinet-arizona-phoenix-elections-b59f85b6e917e91a40dc8e99bcab480a
Penn https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania/spl/pa-election-results-risk-limiting-audit-results-limitations-20210310.html

But wait! There's more!!

Additional "rigged election" claims have evaporated under scrutiny.

(1) Mike Lindell? Lost to his own "prove me wrong" thing.
(2) Mark Meadows? Recanted under oath.
(3) Sydney "Kracken" Powell? Recanted under oath.
(4) Kenneth Chesebro? Recanted under oath.
(5) Rudy Giuliani? Convicted of defamation.
(6) Vote counting machines? They match hand counts.
(7) 2000 Mules? Source "True the Vote" refuses to back up any of their claims in court, despite subpoenas.
(8) Fox News paid out $787,500,000 because they couldn't support their claims of election fraud. $787,500,000 - that ain't pocket change. A business doesn't pay out $787,500,000 for defamation without first spending millions to see if there might be a shred of support for what its people said; to find some excuse for why it's not defamation.

Source info for all points available upon request.

So there you have it, @Reason10. There's no rational reason to believe Trump's lies about a "rigged" or "stolen" election. Evidence for it doesn't exist. Now I know all these investigations won't change the minds of cult members, but an immunity to evidence is one of the ways you know you're in a CULT!!!

People are different...What separates us from lentils is to understand that not everybody has the same views.

This administration has had their turn to do something for the country and it's citizens. The citizens and the country are much worse off now, pure fact.

a patriot loves his country, not the peoiple

I'm speaking as an outsider here but there are (at least) two different visions of what America is or should be. You can even talk of two incomparable understandings of reality.

I'm one for constructive dialogue and I don't hate people for their political beliefs outside of outright fascists.

To some degree, the antagonism in American politics is kind of rational.

If you think Biden stole the election, that the great replacement theory is true and that Trump is the man to save America, you aren't going to like Democrats.

If you think that Trump is a threat to American democracy, that he's in league with Putin and that Project 2025 will effectively end the constitution, then you aren't going to like Democrats.

There must be so many nasty family arguments about politics in America.

Good point.

I don’t hate people that vote differently or have different views. I hate people that enforce their ideas knowing that they’re destructive to the country.

Normally that would hold true, but a 34 felony convicted rapist is a bridge too far sorry.

What if the people I despise are a small but loud minority and they want to eliminate the principles that my country was built on for no other reason than to make everyone miserable?

Trump never said that. In fact, he said "I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED."

That pretty much covers EVERY DEMONAZI in America.

It's a paradox beyond their understanding

Goes with the territory. The ticket you're voting for is telling you to hate the other half, and if you buy that, then you're buying that the other part of the country is not patriotic enough, or not patriotic at all.

Well said.

Things get more complicated when the other side threatens to put you in a shallow ditch for having a different view of the country.

But isn't that pretty normal in a highly secular state like the USA? Thank fark Australia is nothing like the toxic religiousness of that country.

That’s true.

And people are going to hate you for saying it.

It is when half ran away into communism

yes and it makes even less sense if you're running for the vice presidency

Do you truly and honestly believe leftist dems want to preserve and defend the US Constitution? NO, they're constantly wanting to rewrite it, claiming it's a "living document" and that "it's not set in stone".