It’s impossible to call yourself a patriot with any conviction if you hate half of the people in the country for voting differently to you.

@Convivial How is if a paradox to love our country, but despise our government? We have reasons to criticize our "leaders" in power, that's what Patriotism stands for.

@NativePortlander1970 you misunderstand... The paradox is two different groups, both professing to live the same country and willing to attack each other to prove it

@Convivial How did I misunderstand? My group wants to preserve the US Constitution and see America become great again, while the other wants to dismantle the US Constitution and have authortarians rule over them.
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@NativePortlander1970 if I asked your opposition what they wanted...I can almost guarantee they would give the same answer as you did... Hence the paradox

@Convivial I'm a child of the 70's, I remember the mindset of hippies, as often parroted through their kids, my classmates at school, the tv shows of the time, as well as the saturday morning cartoons, music, and movies. They all wanted one thing in common, a vast country wide commune, a communist utopia free from crime and violence, but at a great expense, a vast security network that takes liberties and freedoms away, run by a government of authortarians.

@NativePortlander1970 ok, if you say so

@Convivial I know so

@Convivial In the 90's there was a movie called Flashback, with Kiefer Sutherland and Dennis Hopper, near the end of the movie there's a speech that pretty much sums it all up.
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@NativePortlander1970 Cool flik.