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So, the prez is immune from anything...

Considered to be part of official duties.... How does that make you feel... Comfortable?
What's the old quote..."cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war “?

Gilead just got one step closer..
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Kindly old dictator biden should be impeached, convicted, and removed from office for deliberty ignoring 8 U.S. Code Chapter 12, right?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne Still don't know what 8 U.S. Code Chapter 12 refers, eh?
@sunsporter1649 Do you know what month it is? What day it is? Who the president is? What you had for breakfast this morning?
Vin53 · M
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
The headlines, including yours, imply a President can do anything they want. My reading of the decision is, that it has to be in his official capacities as President. Not anything he does while in office. What is in or outside their capacities as President is kicked down to the lower courts to draw out the decision making even in longer, at least until the election cycle is over. Which is disappointing but not the end of the world, imho.

What is in their official capacities is somewhat defined but has been blurred by previous Supreme Court decisions. Declaring war, for example, is a power left to Congress under the Constitution, but got blurred by the Supreme Court in the case of the Tonkin Gulf when they ruled the President had the authority to react to attack, as fanciful as that attack may have been.

The bigger issue, imho, which they danced around while kicking the can down the street, is the question of what is outside their official capacities, or official capacities they fail to act on? Is calling a Governor and bullying him into finding a few thousand more votes within his official capacity or not? Is sitting on your hands in the oval office watching the Capitol being stormed and not acting acceptable? I suspect the Supreme Court would say this is what the impeachment process is for, which brings the blame back to the Senate for failing to act on the House impeachments.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Convivial
talking to pence about certifying the election was in his official capacity

But did they say browbeating a Governor to find a few thousand votes in his state was in his official capacity?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@dancingtongue Still trying to sell that bridge, eh?
Convivial · 26-30, F
@dancingtongue not that I'm aware of... But in sure they might be able to stretch it to cover it
Ynotisay · M
For me, what's the hardest thing to comprehend is that they made a decision for one man.
Not the office. And not the future of the office.
I NEVER thought a Supreme Court could be so overtly political. It's pretty much the last line of defense.
And it's been breached.
@Ynotisay True
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Ynotisay the barbarians are not only at the gates but have sold them
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Kinda makes sense except if it violates the constitution inwhich case he can be impeached and brought to trial
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Convivial · 26-30, F
@SomeMichGuy but won't... He still respects the rule of law... But in my dreams ...
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Patriot96 nope im not unlike Aoc who pretends to be educated
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
You’re supposed to have faith in the leader of your nation. Democracy depends on it. You can change leaders but during their time in office they are the steward of the nation. If the leader is so unpalatable when democratically chosen it is a reflection of the values of the nation.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
@Ynotisay Is the man more important to you than the job? The highest office of power in any nation can take nation to war. Can make a nation prosperous or bankrupt. Done well such a job can alter the course of human events and change the future. If the job is done well then what difference does the man in office make?
Ynotisay · M
@Muthafukajones Again, you're on a different topic. Let's try to stick what this decision is about. You said "your democracy" which tells me you don't live in the U.S. And that's fine. But I'm not not sure you have a strong handle on the ramifications of this decision.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Muthafukajones it does reflect poorly
"Considered to be part of official duties" is an important part there. That's going to delay Trump's court cases but not affect the outcome of any.
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Fukfacewillie · 51-55, M
@Convivial Yup, that they could decide. What a joke. It’s all so arbitrary
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Fukfacewillie it's a bit like the Red Queen in wonderland...a word means whatever I choose it to mean.... Just substitute law for word..
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Nobody should have immunity.

To quote the Magna Carta: "No man, not even a king, may be above the law."

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Sidewinder Good, now we can impeach, convict, and remove from office kindly old dictator for deliberty ignoring 8 U.S. Code Chapter 12, right?
Then I suppose the current sitting president has full immunity should he order a drone strike on Mar-A-Lago.
@sunsporter1649 Do not call him president. He ran around telling citizens to attack the Capitol, demanding that his vice president apply pressure to the governor of Georgia, hiring fraudulent electors, and committing numerous other felonies. He is currently reaping what he sows.

Or rather, he would be, if his pet judges were not protecting him.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne You're kidding, right?
Whoever is in charge of the @sunsporter1649 bot needs to reset it again.
It was the same with Bill Clinton.
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TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
Yeah its the way its always been
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Except there are still a lot of children. But they are apparently the wrong colour.. But damn if the plot doesnt resonate....😷
Fukfacewillie · 51-55, M
So long as Trump says it's official, it is, and therefor he's immune.
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