@NerdyPotato Haha, that’s pretty good.

@Human1000 is both hilarious and very sad. I'm kinda glad the training is so effective, but showing that can also turn into an argument to not do anything about the threat that made the training necessary.

@NerdyPotato Those skills may need to be used again as there are no plans to divest.

@ElwoodBlues

@sunsporter1649 [image]

@trollslayer University of Southern California was put on lockdown because of them. Their Commencement was also cancelled. So if they were not violent, then USC would not have been under lockdown.

@dakotaviper again, who is “them”?

@dakotaviper [quote]the INTIFADA has been around for quite some time now. They even danced in celebration on and after 9.11.2001. Do some research.[/quote]

The INTIFADA is not an acronym. It's an attempt to pronounce an Arabic word "Intifada". It means Uprising.

It started out as peaceful resistance, in 1988, borrowing form the American Revolution, specifically "no taxation with out representation. Israel attempted to quell it, by assassinating Palestinian secular leadership. As any third grader can tell you, that led to a tit-for-tat militarization.

[quote]The INTIFADA has been around since Yasser Arafat was in charge of the PLO. As some would lead you to believe otherwise, they're not a recent organization. They're actually part of Hezbollah.[/quote]

Hezbollah is a Lebanon based militant group, started and supported by Iran. It was birthed by Israel's 1982 occupation of Lebanon. Saying that the INTIFADA is "actually" part of Hezballah, is akin to saying "the Tea Party is part of the KKK".

Finally, the claim that the INTIFADA danced in the streets in celebration of 9/11 is a claim Trump made, that no one seems to prove.


MAGAs be MAGAs.

@Mordechai well, they did.

@trollslayer they did it outside Supreme Court justices house after the abortion vote.

@Mordechai They are extortionists and cosplay revolutionaries. It’s sad to see Universities kowtow to them, but not surprising given how much power they give children.

@Ynotisay tend to agree. I was in college once. Plenty of kids “against” something for its own sake.

@trollslayer Yep. I was the same way. There's a certain self-importance at the age for a lot of people and when "making your voice heard" is on the table for the first time with peers it can be attractive. I was protesting Thursdays. It was the act of protesting. The issue was secondary.

@Ynotisay I think it’s so true. Maybe part of it is sheer frustration. They see the world on their own for the first time and possibly realize it will be theirs to fix! And it eventually will be!

@dakotaviper not sure whoever thought that?

@Handfull1 I had several co-workers that said once all the Racist Monuments were removed in our City, then there would be no more racism. The Monuments are now gone. Racism still exists though.

@dakotaviper you need to find smarter coworkers. I don’t necessarily think we should honor some of these people with statues although I wouldn’t mind seeing them in a museum with a plaque explaining history. There will always be racism or discrimination of some sort. It just changes throughout history.

@Heartlander [quote]So funny listening to Radical Islamist rant about Zionist.[/quote]

I'm glad that you are entertained.

@Heartlander Insightful.

@Mamapolo2016 the problem in this conflict is a continued escalation of what “rough” means, with near continual violence for 80 years. If that is okay, then that justifies Oct 7th, and I am not okay with that.

@trollslayer I respect your right to your opinion.

@Mamapolo2016 I have a solution. Peace is in the hands of Hamas who doesn't want peace. All Hamas needs to do to end the suffering is to unconditionally surrender and return the hostages alive. They won't because they want to kill Palestinians for the sake of money and power in the form of international outrage.

So my solution is, Iran and Qatar take in all the citizens of Gaza. All of them. Democrat supporters should cover all moving expenses. Israel gets Gaza for compensation of the babies, children, men, and women killed on October 7. Israel gave up Gaza to be good neighbors. They left millions of dollars of agricultural equipment so Gazans could grow their own food. The Gazans destroyed the gifts along with their financial independence. Israel built them a water system and the Gazans dug up the pipes to make rockets to fire into Israel. So, lets all help kick a bad neighbor out of a good neighborhood.

@BohemianBoo if you compare deaths Israelis vs Palestinians the past 20 years, it’s something like 35 to 1. Obviously israeli bombs work better than Palestinian rockets.

@Heartlander i see nothing in that article calling for dismantling of Israel’s defense rockets. Perhaps you posted the wrong link?

@trollslayer Plus the conditions of Gaza are kept really bad by the Israeli government. That's why Palestinians die so young.

@specman Get ready for one of the hottest years on record, if not the hottest.

@specman Twenty years from now you will look back on today's heat and wish it was that cool again.

@sunsporter1649 what about the right wing cracker terrorist in the USA?

@BohemianBoo and i learned from one of you folks today that some blame palestinians for the holocaust.

@trollslayer Right, and the people of Germany are completely innocent. It was Hitler and the Palestinians, and Iran.

@Justice4All That’t what Bibi claimed. It is out of the “delegitimize the Palestinians” playbook. If you can paint them a a people prone to evil that nobody likes or came from somewhere else, you can justify ethnic cleansing.

@MarineBob and there are laws on the books that support such action?

@trollslayer yes, once they're told to disperse and don't they are trespassing

@Northwest Strawman

@NoThanksLeon [quote]Strawman[/quote]

And what is the strawman?

@Northwest If you dont know I am not going to tell you.

@Bumbles i am not saying that it hasnt happened, or that it is not horrible. I am saying that you see a double standard because you fail to see the other side.

Are jews regularly pulled over for “driving while jewish”?
What about murdered for jogging thru a rich neighborhood?
Had the cops called on them for getting locked out of their own house?
Harassed and asked to leave a business for looking “suspicious”?

Those people feel unsafe, too, and feel nobody is protecting them.

@trollslayer We are referring to feeling safe on Campus, but no one is advocating for being pulled over while black. There are no marches against anything that would make any black kid feel unsafe.

@Bumbles maybe not at this moment..

@22Michelle Excellent! I was raised Catholic. One of the things that turned me away from the church was realizing how political they are, and that did not jive well with the whole philosophy of Jesus, as I understood it. My understanding was that Jesus was a break from the old way - let's not fear a vengeful God who will come down and wipe out all sinners, instead let's CHOOSE salvation, and CHOOSE to make "heaven on Earth". In other words, people choose to sin, but that is their choice. And it is their choice to not sin. Using the church to "force" "good" behavior upon people clearly went against this in the most blasphemous way - yet that is what the Church was doing. Not just the Catholic church, but most protestants as well. Using our "human" judgement to judge others as good or bad, and punish the "bad" out of the idea that we are somehow pleasing God as we do it.

This article says the same thing. Zionism seems to be "peace through destruction of others", and to me that is very blasphemous. I understand war must happen, but in this case they are establishing a hierarchy: Jews>Muslims. I understand innocents die in war. But in this war it is like neither side cares - rather than try and minimize harm to innocents, excuses are made that your people are more important than theirs.

@trollslayer [quote]This article says the same thing. Zionism seems to be "peace through destruction of others", and to me that is very blasphemous. I understand war must happen, but in this case they are establishing a hierarchy: Jews>Muslims. I understand innocents die in war. But in this war it is like neither side cares - rather than try and minimize harm to innocents, excuses are made that your people are more important than theirs.[/quote]

What did the Zionist Ehud Olmert say?

[b][c=BF0000]Israeli lives are worth more than Palestinian ones.
Ehud Olmert
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@Diotrephes as blasphemous as it gets.

@trollslayer Students have had a long history of protesting injustices like civil rights, Vietnam war and now apartheid and ethnic cleansing.

@BohemianBoo Absolutely and apartheid.

@GrinNude that's exactly the point. For many there, this is simply the “injustice of the day”. Not saying that there is anything wrong with that, only that it is not personal for them.

@GrinNude Kent State was a war protest just like we had in 1968. Interesting that we could have a repeat of 1968 Chicago 56 years later.

@windinhishair Some interesting information about the police riot at the convention in 1968 in Chicago.

The 101st Airborne Division was scheduled to deploy to Chicago to give logistical support to the Chicago police. After having recently returned from Detroit, the troops met on the tarmac for discussion late into the night.

The following day, they were not deployed to Chicago out of concern that they might join the VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) who by now were playing a major role in the demonstrations.

I learned about this in a documentary about the 1968 Chicago Police Riots.

@GrinNude I did not know that. Very interesting. The war was wrong and the protesters were right. The pro-Palestinian protesters also have valid points. There is no reason for so many civilian casualties in Gaza.

@Heartlander

@Bumbles ever been to humboldt? Your comment made me laugh - remembering a personal story from looooong ago.

@trollslayer Yeah, once many years ago.

@NerdyPotato I don’t think any of that is antizionist. I wonder why so many are against zionism when it seems like the problem is American and Israeli policies.

@trollslayer It seems to be that the Zionist term is used by those who label someone who believes in the continued existence of Israel as a bad thing. For example, referring to Israelis as Zionists is well understood by Jews as hostile remark. Hamas refers to Israel as the Zionist enemy.

The usage has become more common now.

@Bumbles hmm, there is indeed some debate about the official definition of antizionism. Anyway, my points still stand that there's very little overlap between people who support Zionism (in their own words) and people who follow Judaism, and that nobody should want to support the current actions of the Israeli army in any shape or form.

@AthrillatheHunt indeed

@AthrillatheHunt don't the cops take over the city first and help the media complete the show?

@fanuc2013 some of the jewish students are protesters.

@trollslayer That's up to them.They have a right to express their opinion like anybody else, but not harass or intimidate, or foment hate speech.

@BohemianBoo thats sunspew for ya

@trollslayer I'm not even sure what his argument is there. Is he saying Leftists shouldn't have free speech?
I mean, I know that's what Fashies believe, but they usually don't openly say it.

@Justice4All yes thats exactly what i mean... they should just become a part of lebanon/syria/jordan or egypt... those countries arent perfect but will function a lot better then any made up palestine that state for which noone has a functional concept. and if the gaza strip is any indication its gonna be a terrorist controlled war state that oozes homophobia, misogyni and terrorizes its over population.

@FreeLilly [quote]yes thats exactly what i mean... they should just become a part of lebanon/syria/jordan or egypt... those countries arent perfect but will function a lot better then any made up palestine that state for which noone has a functional concept. and if the gaza strip is any indication its gonna be a terrorist controlled war state that oozes homophobia, misogyni and terrorizes its over population.[/quote]

It seems that you don't know what the official Zionist policy is. They fully intend to do as great a genocide as necessary to drive out all non-White Jews in the Levant, from the Nile to the Euphrates. Therefore, their objective is to destroy the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria and part of Egypt. There will be no peace in the area. Peace is not part of the Zionist agenda.

@FreeLilly The residents of Gaza deserve the right to self-determination. Just as the Jewish community was granted the opportunity to establish the state of Israel in 1948 following the Balfour Declaration, the people of Gaza, who have resided there for millennia alongside Jews, should have the same right to form their own state.

Throughout history, they coexisted peacefully, even fighting against common threats like the crusaders in 1099. The tensions arose with the arrival of European/Ashkenazi Jews to Palestine, creating the current predicament.

The Zionist faction opposes Palestinians' efforts to establish their own state and would not agree to Gaza becoming part of Egypt. With Jordan under the control of a Westernized dictator, it's unreasonable to expect Gaza's people to submit to such rule. The Israeli Zionists, who hold power, have failed to present a viable solution for Gaza's inhabitants. Instead, they've continued to expand into Palestinian territory, as seen in the West Bank prior to October 7th. The voices of Gazans and West Bank residents have been suppressed, primarily due to the support of the US and UK. The US not only consistently vetoes UN resolutions aimed at ending the genocidal conflict against Palestinians, the US continues to send weapons to aid the Zionists in their efforts.

@Roundandroundwego Cupid stunt.