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Palestine protests - what to do

I am hearing from one side that National Guard should be called. Given what happened at Kent State in 1970, I think this would make the issue worse. MUCH, MUCH WORSE. Generally, trying to forcefully remove people may seem like you are protecting people, but instead you are making things worse.

On the other hand, these protests have gotten serious and violent. How does one restore safety to campuses without infringing upon rights? We do have rights in the USA. If your campus is closed to students only, you can arrest non students. But if your campus is open (like most universities) - that's tough. I was once escorted off of a college campus for being a non-student. In my case, I walked onto a campus at night, by myself, not knowing I was on a campus. The campus police put me in the back of a police car and drove me off, saying they cannot charge me with anything, but they can warn me that I was trespassing and if I came back on campus without official business they could charge me with trespassing because I have already been warned. Not sure if that was legal, but I didn't test it.

So, what do people like Mike Johnson expect to be done? Clearly there is unchecked antisemitism amongst many of these protesters. And clearly there are non-student agitators joining the crowd. But what many people don't know, is that there are many Jewish people amongst the protesters, also protesting funding Israel's war machine, and the treatment of Palestinians. And they are facing harassment - from fellow jews and other Israel supporters.

I just feel like it is hard to find the truth here. I should point out that I have a Jewish family member who is faculty at Columbia, and she isn't fearful for her life. She seems to be more concerned with having to teach online classes for the rest of the semester.
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dakotaviper · 56-60, M
Yes we have Rights. But to a point. Publicly stating that you want to exterminate Israelis from the River to the Sea is Racist towards Jews within the USA, many of whom have family that reside in Israel. Then chanting Death to America within the borders of the USA is trampling on the Freedoms WE ALL ENJOY.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@dakotaviper

From the Universe of Michigan.

trollslayer · 46-50, M
@dakotaviper exactly. But what percentage of the protesters meet this threshold? “River to the sea” is often used as s genocidal cry, but not always (has been used by jews, too, recently, to inflame Palestinians). How to deal with the trouble makers without trampling a legitimate right to protest?
Northwest · M
@Bumbles The Intifada started out as a non-violent movement. If you care for the truth, that is.

Are you saying that these protesters are violent?
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dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@Northwest These are the same people that danced in the Streets chanting Death to America on 9.11.2001.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@trollslayer the INTIFADA has been around for quite some time now. They even danced in celebration on and after 9.11.2001. Do some research.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@dakotaviper who is “they” you are referring to? That was 22 years ago. Are you saying the same individuals danced in the streets?
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@trollslayer The INTIFADA has been around since Yasser Arafat was in charge of the PLO. As some would lead you to believe otherwise, they're not a recent organization. They're actually part of Hezbollah.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@dakotaviper you didn’t answer my question.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@dakotaviper btw, infitada is not an organization.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@trollslayer University of Southern California was put on lockdown because of them. Their Commencement was also cancelled. So if they were not violent, then USC would not have been under lockdown.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@dakotaviper again, who is “them”?
Northwest · M
@dakotaviper [quote]the INTIFADA has been around for quite some time now. They even danced in celebration on and after 9.11.2001. Do some research.[/quote]

The INTIFADA is not an acronym. It's an attempt to pronounce an Arabic word "Intifada". It means Uprising.

It started out as peaceful resistance, in 1988, borrowing form the American Revolution, specifically "no taxation with out representation. Israel attempted to quell it, by assassinating Palestinian secular leadership. As any third grader can tell you, that led to a tit-for-tat militarization.

[quote]The INTIFADA has been around since Yasser Arafat was in charge of the PLO. As some would lead you to believe otherwise, they're not a recent organization. They're actually part of Hezbollah.[/quote]

Hezbollah is a Lebanon based militant group, started and supported by Iran. It was birthed by Israel's 1982 occupation of Lebanon. Saying that the INTIFADA is "actually" part of Hezballah, is akin to saying "the Tea Party is part of the KKK".

Finally, the claim that the INTIFADA danced in the streets in celebration of 9/11 is a claim Trump made, that no one seems to prove.


MAGAs be MAGAs.