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Palestine protests - what to do

I am hearing from one side that National Guard should be called. Given what happened at Kent State in 1970, I think this would make the issue worse. MUCH, MUCH WORSE. Generally, trying to forcefully remove people may seem like you are protecting people, but instead you are making things worse.

On the other hand, these protests have gotten serious and violent. How does one restore safety to campuses without infringing upon rights? We do have rights in the USA. If your campus is closed to students only, you can arrest non students. But if your campus is open (like most universities) - that's tough. I was once escorted off of a college campus for being a non-student. In my case, I walked onto a campus at night, by myself, not knowing I was on a campus. The campus police put me in the back of a police car and drove me off, saying they cannot charge me with anything, but they can warn me that I was trespassing and if I came back on campus without official business they could charge me with trespassing because I have already been warned. Not sure if that was legal, but I didn't test it.

So, what do people like Mike Johnson expect to be done? Clearly there is unchecked antisemitism amongst many of these protesters. And clearly there are non-student agitators joining the crowd. But what many people don't know, is that there are many Jewish people amongst the protesters, also protesting funding Israel's war machine, and the treatment of Palestinians. And they are facing harassment - from fellow jews and other Israel supporters.

I just feel like it is hard to find the truth here. I should point out that I have a Jewish family member who is faculty at Columbia, and she isn't fearful for her life. She seems to be more concerned with having to teach online classes for the rest of the semester.
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Justice4All · 36-40, M
What they're protesting against is injustice. They're protesting against the US government's support of Israeli war crimes in Gaza. Biden just delivered a whooping $31 billion to Israel, meanwhile the dead toll of innocent Palestinians is 42,000 and is rising hundreds by the day.

Somethings are worth fighting for. Their voices will not be silenced.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Justice4All Oct 7 never happened?
Justice4All · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 Killing innocent people in retaliation for Hamas killing innocent people is unjustifiable. Why are the lives of the people who died in October 7th attack more valuable than the lives of the 42,000 Palestinians who have been slaughtered at the hands of the Zionist regime?
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
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Human1000 · 51-55, M
@Justice4All They are protesting their universities, not the US government.
@sunsporter1649 says [quote]Oct 7 never happened?[/quote]
DUUUDE!!!

There's such a thing as over-reaction. Bernie Sanders explained it pretty clearly:
[media=https://youtu.be/Gjgn1bmZrRA]
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So you and bernie the red are worried there will not be any raghead terrorists left to kill peace-loving citizens, eh?
@sunsporter1649 Do "peace loving" citizens kill over twenty thousand women and children in response to 1160 Israeli deaths?

Do you approve of ethnic cleansing?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So bernie the red and you are worried there will not be any ragheag terrorists left to fulfill the raghead terrorists desire to rid the world of infadels, eh?
@sunsporter1649 Do "peace loving" citizens kill over twenty thousand women and children in response to 1160 Israeli deaths? Do "peace loving" citizens destroy over one million housing units - half the housing in Gaza? Do "peace loving" citizens bomb aid workers multiple times after being informed of the presence and routes of said workers?

Bernie Sanders explains:
[media=https://youtu.be/Gjgn1bmZrRA]
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Justice4All the fundamental moral issue is that Hamas hides behind innocent children, hospitals and schools to launch their rockets into Israel. That Palestinian adults willingly put their own children in harms way may be questionable, but how does Hamas hide tunnels beneath hospitals and schools without hospital and school administration being aware?
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Justice4All · 36-40, M
@Heartlander 7 months later, Hamas is not defeated. Israel cannot kill every Palestinian in Gaza to kill a few thousand Hamas fighters. It just isn't plausible and it violates international humanitarian law.

The only thing Israel has accomplished thus far is turning the whole Muslim world against them and creating potential for greater hostility. New reports suggest a large number of Hamas fighters are entering Egypt and they're being welcomed. Hamas will be larger and stronger than ever.

Look at what's happening on US campuses. Even in Congress... many Americans are angry. Antisemitism is at an all time high. Countries across the world are ending diplomatic relations with Israel and calling Israel a terrorist state. Do you really think they should continue going this route?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 You have to post a cartoon because there's no record of any Harvard student saying any such thing, [b]LOL!!![/b]
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Justice4All they will. And have for decades.
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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Justice4All evolution:
10/10- 500 dead Palestinians , as reported by Hamas health ministry , who falsify data and don’t separate civilian and combat deaths .
11/10- 3000 dead Palestinians , as reported by Hamas health ministry . Who don’t separate civilian and combat deaths.
12/10- 10000 dead Palestinians as reported by Hamas health ministry.
4/10- 30k dead Palestinians .
Have you noticed this too ?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Justice4All It took 8 long years to put Hitler to bed permanently. 60 million dead, and in the interim a half dozen plus countries chose to join Germany rather than oppose them.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues So, since you're supporting Hamas, we all can safely agree that you also supported Al Qaida on September 11, 2001.

Correct!
@dakotaviper I assume this is sarcasm, but for those who don't get the sarcasm, neither Bernie nor I support Hamas
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues ‘Splain to us the difference between the destruction of the Jewish people by hamas and the destruction of the Jewish people by raghead terrorists in the middle-east and in the demonocrat party