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Palestine protests - what to do

I am hearing from one side that National Guard should be called. Given what happened at Kent State in 1970, I think this would make the issue worse. MUCH, MUCH WORSE. Generally, trying to forcefully remove people may seem like you are protecting people, but instead you are making things worse.

On the other hand, these protests have gotten serious and violent. How does one restore safety to campuses without infringing upon rights? We do have rights in the USA. If your campus is closed to students only, you can arrest non students. But if your campus is open (like most universities) - that's tough. I was once escorted off of a college campus for being a non-student. In my case, I walked onto a campus at night, by myself, not knowing I was on a campus. The campus police put me in the back of a police car and drove me off, saying they cannot charge me with anything, but they can warn me that I was trespassing and if I came back on campus without official business they could charge me with trespassing because I have already been warned. Not sure if that was legal, but I didn't test it.

So, what do people like Mike Johnson expect to be done? Clearly there is unchecked antisemitism amongst many of these protesters. And clearly there are non-student agitators joining the crowd. But what many people don't know, is that there are many Jewish people amongst the protesters, also protesting funding Israel's war machine, and the treatment of Palestinians. And they are facing harassment - from fellow jews and other Israel supporters.

I just feel like it is hard to find the truth here. I should point out that I have a Jewish family member who is faculty at Columbia, and she isn't fearful for her life. She seems to be more concerned with having to teach online classes for the rest of the semester.
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
Just a couple of thoughts:

Watching the non-peaceful protests, maybe the intent of the organizers was/is to provoke a heavy handed police or military response, thus moving attention away from Israel-Palestine bickering and towards a student-police confrontation and a political opportunity for the Democrat's left wing. To better understand what's going on, maybe specifically identify students and non-students and trace their behavior in videos and confrontations with the police. Were students sent to the forefront to be the ones to become victims of police overreach? A Kent type incident would provoke a different public reaction depending on whether the one injured or killed was a student or a non-student instigator.

Watching the unity of the non-peaceful protesters also brought up an image of a Trojan Horse. Has the US immigration process become a Trojan Horse gift, encouraging the US to to open the gate for an invasion by radical Islamist? 200,000 unknowns being waved through our southern border every month. Even if only 5% are here to invade, that's 100,000+ a year, 300,00 since Biden became president.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Heartlander [quote]Watching the non-peaceful protests, maybe the intent of the organizers was/is to provoke a heavy handed police or military response[/quote]

Except that if you actually watch the videos, it's been the police and the counter-protesters that have initiated violence every time. The establishment is trying to make this about protester violence in order to deflect away from the genocide, which should be the real focus.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@BohemianBoo what they call genocide is using their children, their hospitals and schools as human shields. The correct word is “filicide” not “genocide”.
@Heartlander That's still genocide on Israel's part.

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Heartlander · 80-89, M
@BohemianBoo I don't recall news stories about Israel soldiers strapping suicide bombs on their children and sending them into Palestine.

Of the thousands of missiles and rockets that Hamas and Radicalized Muslims fired into Israel, and continues to fire into Israel, none of them could/can distinguish between soldiers, civilians, adults, children, Jew, Muslim. They didn't hit their intended targets because of missile defenses provided by US, British and others. Your misidentified peaceful protests call for the US and others to stop providing assistance to Israel, to stop providing missile defenses, so Hamas can fire missiles from Palestine into undefended Israel so Hamas and kill millions of people in Israel.

Listen to what the non-peaceful protesters are demanding. They demand the removal of Israel's missile defenses so Hamas and their radical Muslim friends can wipe out Israel. They demand defunding support for Israel so they can kill everyone in Israel. Now that's what I call genocide. Stop supporting Israel so they can show the world what genocide really is.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Heartlander can you find an example of a protester calling for the removal of the missile defense system? I would like to read more about this.
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
@trollslayer

https://apnews.com/article/college-protests-israel-divestment-palestinians-3f37f96f7be8e1124f266842d9caa627



and there are hundreds more such references.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@BohemianBoo if you compare deaths Israelis vs Palestinians the past 20 years, it’s something like 35 to 1. Obviously israeli bombs work better than Palestinian rockets.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Heartlander i see nothing in that article calling for dismantling of Israel’s defense rockets. Perhaps you posted the wrong link?
@trollslayer Plus the conditions of Gaza are kept really bad by the Israeli government. That's why Palestinians die so young.