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Should Donald Trumps' name still be on the general election ballot if

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He is convicted in a criminal court?
The only place Donald Trumps name should appear is on his tombstone, and even then people will piss on it
@independentone Most public all gender restroom in America.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@LordShadowfire for #1 and #2!!!
beckyromero · 36-40, F
He should be removed [i]only[/i] if he is ruled disqualified due to the provisions of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
@fanuc2013 [quote]The FBI has already stated the Jan.6 was not an insurrection. That term is being used by political opponents.[/quote]
And what word would you use to describe a group of people who intentionally broke into the Capitol for the purpose of overturning legitimate election results? Don't let somebody else do your thinking for you. Use your own words.
exchrist · 31-35
@fanuc2013 please provide a source?
Thanks.
exchrist · 31-35
@fanuc2013 none of the indictments pending include insurrection. Per washington post. The fbi hasnt said shit though.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Not that I want him elected. But to be certain no other Republican suddenly pops up. The Republican party and MAGA supporters have spent four years bringing this on themselves and they deserve every bit of it.😷
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
His name shouldn't be on the ballot, he is disqualified? This shouldn't be a court decision, would a court be needed to disqualify a 34 year old?
specman · 51-55, M
@samueltyler2 I am just telling you what they are arguing. I’m on Trumps side. Their side of the argument sounds plausible.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@specman i realize what side you are on. Why do you say they are arguing, it is you who is blind to what tTump tried to do. He continues to try, his platform for re-election shows it. He is a failed businessman, lied about that, he is twice impeached, indicted four times for over 91 crimes. He robs from the poor to pay the rich. Wake up before it is too late
specman · 51-55, M
@samueltyler2 he keeps trying to what?
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DrWatson · 70-79, M
There are different meanings of the word "should."

As I understand it, the law allows convicted felons, even felons in prison, to be on the ballot. If that is the case, then legally he "should" be on the ballot. That does not mean I think it is right.
DrWatson · 70-79, M
@22Michelle Those who are skeptical of invoking the 14th amendment are not all Trump partisans.

I think it is good to remember the adage "be careful of what you wish for." I think we will have utter chaos if each state were able to define "insurrection" as it pleased. (The prevailing legal opinion is that it would take an act of Congress to declare someone guilty of insurrection.) If any state excluded Trump from the ballot, and that decision held up in court, I am confident that other states would rule Biden to be an insurrectionist for "encouraging an army of rapists and murders to invade our southern border and to threaten the American way of life." And some whacko court filled with Trump-appointed judges would uphold the ruling. (I can hear the arguments now: "how many attacked the capital? Compare that with how many have crossed the border!")

It's easy to get a blood-lust for expressing outrage against a candidate we despise, but let's remember that every legal ruling is a two-edged sword.

We have already entered the era of "dueling impeachments" in this country. I would hate to usher in an era of "dueling insurrectionists."
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@DrWatson To be honest I think, like much of the Constitution it is written for its time, and for a class of people who saw themselves as being the rulers ofvthe USA. Determining insurrection would have been simple back then. I just find it amusing that it's always those who say they hold the Constitution as being inviolate who tie themselves in knots trying to find ways if should not be applied to them. See the "well regulated militia" provision of the second amendment. Add in the cry of " you can't amend the Constitution" when we're debating amendments to the Constitution and you realise how insane the debate is. The USA, like the UK needs to bring it's electoral and legal processes and provisions into the 20th let alone the 21st century.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
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Yes, because a person serving time in prison should not be allowed to be president.
Now if he serves his time, and then wants to run for president, that should be legal.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Convicted or not, with his history and the number of civil cases proved, how can any reputable party allow him to represent them???😷
exchrist · 31-35
exchrist · 31-35
In some states im fairly confident in some states felony conviction disqualifies a candidate from elected office
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@exchrist that really isn't true. It might prevent someone from working some jobs, etc.
exchrist · 31-35
@samueltyler2 as it should but here in nys i doubt his shit will be permitted to fly.
exchrist · 31-35
@samueltyler2 such as president yes
specman · 51-55, M
Convicted of what? Just a regular criminal court case?
specman · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire I consider the Supreme Court’s ruling a reliable source.
@specman Okay, so you don't want to think for yourself.
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jehova · 31-35, M
No especially if felony charges but a large portion of the country is brainwashed to beleive. Well u know.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
I think the GOP would be wise to keep him off.
@trollslayer They are still terrified of him.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
SteelHands · 61-69, M
If you're not able to recognize the gaslighting being done you're only going to end up staying angry until you make yourself physically ill.

Learn something. They've all tippec their hand now. If you can't see it you're living in denial.

Look at em. All of them. What's it gonna take for you to see its all bullshit?
exchrist · 31-35
Eitjer way he shouldnt be on the ballot.
Congress doesn't act. Congratulations.
IM5688 · 61-69, M
Depends on whether he is convicted of a federal crime, or a lesser state crime.
If found guilty and loses appeal, he probably shouldn't be on the ballot.
If found guilty of a non-political, state or lesser crime charge, he should still be allowed on the ballot.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@IM5688 the 14th amendment does not say that.
Auggie · M
yes, as follows - GOAT 😆
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Yes. I hate Trump but disqualifying criminals is a good way for a government to reinforce systems of power.
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@CountScrofula i know, you made no sense whatsoever earlier lol but I still gave you th3 thumbs up. One of these situations when I node my head while I don't understand.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@BittersweetPotato Here's a better way of putting it.

Indigenous people in Canada are treated very, very badly by police and often unfairly arrested and convicted. This is especially true for political activists.

Those political activists should have the right to run for public office.
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@CountScrofula Now that makes sense lol
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
I think it should. It feels undemocratic if he hasn't been convicted yet of insurrection.

Emotionally however, I would be overjoyed if he was.
Depends on the crime, speeding ticket for example should have no effect
@sstronaut Honestly, anything that doesn't have to do with betraying his government should be overlooked as a disqualifying factor.
RageAgainstTheMachine · 36-40, M
Legally, failed justice. Personally, bigger win for the Democratic Party.
Pfuzylogic · M
donnie can’t vote for himself. He can run for President though,
SW-User
Absolutely not
I voted no, which should come as no surprise to anybody.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire I think taking him off the ballot would play into his bases hands. It would make him look like he is being persecuted. I would rather him be on the ballot and get quashed at the polls.

 
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