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This shit ain't right...

I'm not talking about what she's getting arrested for, as much as the fact that the video is the story.



https://www.newsweek.com/video-aoc-pretending-handcuffed-viewed-over-2-million-times-1726151
TexChik · F Best Comment
What’s not right ? The fact that she wasn’t properly restrained in accordance with police department guidelines or that she was faking it for publicity?
@TexChik that too, is not right.
TexChik · F
@MistyCee Nope . She should have been treated like they would treat a conservative . Good example of the two tier justice system in DC.

room101 · 51-55, M
Somebody help me out here. What exactly is AOC supposed to be pretending? She is seen being “escorted” away from the demo by a police officer, who is holding her upper left arm. She has her hands clasped behind her back, something that many of us understand to be an SOP instruction given to arrestees by police officers the world over. She then raises her free arm (her right arm) in the globally recognised power salute.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/19/aoc-arrested-protest-abortion-rights-democrats

Were Representatives arrested whilst engaging in their First Amendment right to free political speech?

Were Representatives arrested whilst engaging in peaceful protest?

YES, they were. Seventeen of them!

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20220720-ocasio-cortez-amongst-17-members-of-congress-arrested-at-abortion-rights-protest

The fact that certain Twitter users, and others, see her gesture (of clasping her hands behind her back) as some kind of pretence at being handcuffed says more about them than it does about AOC.
room101 · 51-55, M
@Heartlander “Woke pack” oh my Lord STOP, please just STOP. Your fathomless ignorance is, quite frankly, exhausting.

You seem like a well-meaning and relatively genuine guy. It’s also abundantly clear that you have some long held beliefs and opinions. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. However, there comes a time when we need to hit the pause button on our beliefs and opinions and examine them in an objective and empirically provable way.

The power salute has been used for decades, if not centuries. There are depictions of it in paintings of the French Revolution, it was used by the suffragettes, it was used by black American athletes in the 1968 Olympic games. It means one thing and one thing only, the unity of the oppressed against their oppressors. If you can dismiss that history as being “woke” then the examination of your beliefs and opinions is very overdue.

“Saluting with an open hand is a non-threatening gesture of acknowledgment and respect. With a closed fist it's about grabbing power by whatever means available.”

If you believe that this is threatening:


But believe that this is not:



Then your self-examination is long, long, long overdue.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@room101

:) you are trying too hard.

Those hail Caesar, heil Hitler type gestures weren't salutes but gestures of homage and submission to totalitarian leaders. "Misleaders" would be a better word. They are gestures of solidarity. Very different from the closed fist which is one of defiance.

Taking a few steps backwards on this discussion, I think it worth drawing comparisons between the US WOKE pack and their Communist brothers and sisters in places like China, Russia, North Korea; or even places like Iran, Afghanistan, etc.

Such protests would very possibly lead to long prison sentences or even death sentences in some of those places. And even what they were protesting about. In those totalitarian countries, the government exercises considerable control and authority over reproduction.
room101 · 51-55, M
@Heartlander And you're not trying hard enough. You say something (which I've replicated for you) but then seemingly try to say that you meant something else.

The fact is that the open hand sieg heil salute has a very specific meaning, as does the closed fist salute. As does the abuse of the word "woke".

But you know what, all of this is a mildly entertaining distraction. The point of this discussion is twofold.

First, was AOC (and the other 16 democratically elected representatives) arrested for exercising their First Amendment rights available to every US citizen? Your viewpoint seems to be about pavements and doors and the ridiculous whataboutism vis-a-vis what would have happened to them in other authoritarian regimes. Which is what you and others of your ilk seem to be punting for.

Second, was this all a stunt for the cameras?

The answer to the first point/question is a resounding YES!

For the second point, I suggest you scroll through this discussion and avail yourself of my replies to @MistyCee and @Ynotisay. Which can be summarised thus:

"Don't blame the player, blame the game."
ron122 · 41-45, M
She's such a fake piece of crap. All she wants is attention.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I bet you've been crying all night.🤣
@ron122 I am not you.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm laughing while you're crying.🤣
Graylight · 51-55, F
It shouldn't be a story. AOC wasn't the only one who put their hands behind their back, and they were, in fact, under arrest. The only reason they weren't handcuffed in because they were members of Congress (17 of them).

It was likely a show of solidarity - they are no different and willing to suffer for the same cause - but it doesn't end up playing well. Still and all, she was, in fact, detained and arrested, so was in no way disingenuous.

I mean, it's not like she's lied about the insurrection, white supremacists, voter fraud, election integrity, the 1st amendment, violence in this country, school shootings...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/fact-check-marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-election-capitol/index.html
Heartlander · 80-89, M
A (so called) peaceful demonstration that obstructs and disrupts the freedom of others, or intimidates others who are not protesting is no longer a peaceful demonstration.

The fake handcuffs goes with the character and dishonesty of leftist who believe that the end justifies the means; anything they do to achieve the power and authority to tell and compel the rest of us what we can and can't do is OK in their minds.

Protest to your heart's desire, but you can't block the doorways and sidewalks and prevent the rest of us from enjoying our freedom.
@room101 There are NOt two positions, SN.
Bye.
room101 · 51-55, M
@LamontCranston If you say so🤣🤣🤣🖕👋
@room101 Bye.
Ynotisay · M
It entirely diminishes the issue. She retweeted a clip that showed her being escorted off, grinning along the way, and cut it before she raised her fist. IMO, it encapsulates who she is. And who many Progressives now are. It's about 'look at me' and grievance. Even if the grievance is entirely justified, as it is in the case from where I'm standing, it's more about social media clout than legislation. I see her as an immature child demanding a magic wand. And that trickles down.

Even without the relentless push from the right to equate Progressives as enemies of Democracy, and making them anyone who isn't a Republican (despite a relatively small size), this is the kind of thing that the more simple thinkers will remember. Seems to me that Progressives hurt Democrats, fuel Conservatives. and negatively influence those on the fence. And that's coming from someone who was a lifelong LIBERAL. Not a Progressive. I think there's a difference.
NorthernBear · 51-55, M
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Well personally, I can't stand her. She's a show-boater, short on substance, and many of the ideas she does have are as dangerous as those that are intended to appeal to "the crazy base." The thing is, she got what she wanted... the media attention. So, yeah the video is the story just as she hoped it would be.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow How do you get to determine what counts and what doesn't? And, that's not to say that's my only experience.
@MarkPaul I don't. But facts are facts despite your wishful thinking to the contrary.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@MarkPaul Marky, where did you get your degree? Which university?
I think if people are getting upset about this video they are missing the point entirely.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@MalteseFalconPunch LOL, you still believe that. Amusing
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Amylynne · 26-30, F
Faking that sort of thing gets you know cred and in fact in my case makes you lose cred don’t be pretending
RedBaron · M
Your link doesn't lead anywhere.
@RedBaron maybe that's for the best, imo. I'll check it, though
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Would JohnnyO do her?
ron122 · 41-45, M
@Tres13 Johnny can do her big ol booty.😁
I'm sure most of her haters wish she was the one doing the arresting.
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@Heartlander k. It showed up for me on a sub thread, and I guess I read too much into that.

 
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