There needs to be a real conversation. What did these people expect to gain through vandalism and/or murder?

They claim they are making America better... but what does that mean?

No abortion?
No immigration?
No free healthcare?

I mean seriously... what was worth destroying America for?

Perhaps it's time for a real conversation.

There are people on the left that are every bit as gullible. There isn't anywhere in the world that has "free healthcare". Sure, there is healthcare offered by various governments, but it comes with significantly higher tax rates and it's very well rationed.

Using this as an example, there are many people that have no idea what they are talking about with they talk about "progressive reform."

Many of the people who support Trump have been disenfranchised by both Democrats and Republicans. It's wonderful how people are dismayed about immigrants that voted for Trump and behave like, "oh, those people don't know any better."

It's obnoxious.

Yes, Trump is a dispicable douchebag who flies in the face of societal norms. He's a bad person.

But, for all the "good people" who have been elected to office in the last 40 years, many of them are douchebags too, they are just more polished about it.

If people want others to be de-radicalized, the best place to start is with a good hard look in the mirror.

But, that won't happen either, because everyone is so in love with being outraged.

So, carry on. There's nothing to see here.

At this point I think blood is just going to have to be spilled. These people are violent and clearly won't be satisfied until they get a fight.

Time to use those over-policing tactics they love so much (when used against minorities) against [i]them[/i] for a change.

I'm not sure, but calling them deplorables sure as hell didn't do it.

I'm not sure that calling them stupid or uneducated helps either, because a lot of them aren't stupid and buy into the lies knowing they're lies because they genuinely think that lying is acceptable and justified because the other guy does it well and that the way to survive is to kill before some one kills you.

Cruz and Hawley both come to mind. I don't for a second believe that either of those guys don't know that Biden's win wasn't the result of massive election fraud, but they both supported and spread the lies because doing so benefitted them.

Can you force people to behave by punishing those who don't? Sure, you can some, but for many, all you're going to do is make them better at not being caught.

At this point, I'd settle for that, I guess, discouraging openly criminal and antisocial behavior, but I think the real key, which might not open any locks for a generation or so, is educating their children about the reason for laws and how, respecting them and other members of society can greater benefits than living in a pure state of nature where everyone is only out for themselves and even the strong who can kill or enslave the weak, don't enjoy the greater benefits of living in a cooperative society.

If we don't, sooner or later, the tribes who spend all their time fighting amongst themselves are going to be taken advantage of by bigger tribes or even just smarter ones.

You can’t. They only believe what Trump says. They think everyone other than trump is a faker or a liar and everything out there is a conspiracy against them. I just dissociate with them and do what I can as a citizen. Anyone who still support Trump after what just happened? I don’t think they have any brain left I’m capable of changing.

Unfortunately, there is not really a sure-fire strategy.

To cut off the head of the snake, by silencing leaders of these conspiracies, is bound to validate their views and make them even more blinded by self-righteousness

To stop the flow of disinformation, by censoring topics or outlets or groups, is going to create resentment. It's going to make people feel like they have nowhere else to turn, and it only figures that cornering them like that will lead to even more danger

To counter those arguments with facts and working to debunk them is going to fall on deaf ears, because their alignment is not about the truth at all. It's a moral issue that is positively reinforced by the social appeal of the group. It's tribalism

To try to shame or mock them will just push them further and further into the fringes of their beliefs

I think the only thing that has a shot at showing these people the light is to entertain them. These people desperately want to be right, which is why they're so passionately stupid. Let them talk, feel like their opinion is valid, ask them questions about why they believe what they do, and eventually show them that their beliefs are baseless and substantiated mostly by rhetoric they're parroting and by unquestioned axioms they take for granted

Well, you don't do it by arrogantly calling them stupid and judging their core values and beliefs.

It'll never happen. Trump may fade away, but the cult, while maybe less cohesive, will continue. They will bury themselves in fantastical conspiracy theories, and latch on to another or others, hopefully less powerful "leader/s".

You break up their echo-chambers and hope for the best.

Three letters...FBI. We need infiltration and arrests. We need a domestic terrorism law. Talk to the Brits about the IRA. Rule 1. Take this seriously.

We also need civics and the FCC to step in to cut licenses for programs that preach sedition.

We need corporate boycotts of anyone who does business with Trump.

They need to be outcasts. Fired, not hired, and shamed into oblivion.

It could take years. Like any cult, it depends how long it took them to get your hooks into you. If a Trumpette was radicalised over the course of three weeks, say, then it will take them three weeks to be deradicalised.

Fortunately I don't have that problem because I don't know anyone who is stupid enough to believe what Trump tells them. Nobody in my area is that stupid.

At this point I think most of them are a lost cause. Many of them are so completely brainwashed that they don't even know what the truth or logic is anymore.

What did [b]they[/b] suggest for those people radicalized by ISIS a few years back ?
“Lock ‘em all up”, “Shoot “em”, “Drop a bomb on ‘em” ?
Think the Trumpsters would be okay if folks took [b]that[/b] kind of simplistic approach ? 🤔

Smiling and agreeing when Colbert mentioned that protests are still ongoing, Harris added:

“But they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop. And that’s – they’re not – this is a movement, I’m telling you. They’re not gonna stop.”

In an apparent warning, she continued:

“And everyone beware, because they’re not gonna stop….

“They’re not gonna stop before election day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after election day.

“And that should be – everyone should take note of that.”

Harris continued:

“They’re not gonna let up. And they should not. And we should not.”

Not once did Colbert or Harris touch on the violent nature of the “protests” across the United States, with their multiple millions of dollars in property damage, murders, arson and destroyed businesses, and aggravated violence against law enforcement.

Instead, in keeping with her usual silence on the matter, Harris ignored the destructive actions by Black Lives Matter and used flowery language to praise the “intensity” of the “movement” characterized by violent protests, simultaneously telling the country to “beware.”

And of course this is not inflammatory, right?

You need to be an expert in paranoia first. That's the fiddle Trump was playing, the only one he can play. A lot of mummy-hate in it, methinks.

Put up a wall around the Red States and stay away until the shooting stops. You cant educate people who wont think.😷

can't won't forget it if u call them STUPID
what do u expect to happen next round

huh

ok now 4 an answer..

these people are hurt, abused, traumatized and maddened by this hideous monster whipping them up
just like....
oh forget it
u know what we're dealing with here

so...once more the "solution" is for people to get their needs met

ya know...food, education, hope...not too sexy/flashy bunch of answers.

You can't. Some people are just gone. They've been inoculated against proof and even science.

What do you expect to accomplish with this kind of post? Either to get people to agree and stroke your ego or disagree and start a fight isn't this a good example of the basic problem with both sides?

Once Trump is out of the picture, his movement will break up. There isn’t anyone else who can replace him. It will be like when Alexander the Great died.

Convict him in the senate by a wide margin. That would convert a lot of them. Then they'd understand that he was to blame for the mess.

The only way to win somebody over to your way is to show them it's successful and let them know you're willing to share it. From there, it's up to them.

Take their firearms away for the “armed protests”.

Trump is gone this is old news i know your reason to live is tds but you need to find a new cause. It's so funny you people needed Trump way more than his supporters.

Alot of them are just convinced that democrats are evil and Trump's bullshit feeds into their hatred. With newsmax, fox news, hate radio and whatever media that gives them hate and lies changing them is hopeless for most I think. They like hating democrats..

Make them binge watch the Golden Girls

STOP SHITPOSTING.

How do you rehabilitate people who join cults? I think they have to be willing participants.

Finally - a use for all those cult "deprogramming" After-School Specials.

Like what for instance did Trump tell any group to do something ?

You take the leader away. Next, you go after their finances.

Why would you want to try to change their minds?

Through education.

You dont you just stand by and watch them do stupid shit to get themselves arrested

well, why do you want to change stupid people in the first place?

You can't. They should just be banned from social media.

at this point we should consider reeducation camps...

A mug of underboob sweat from overweight men.

Time, it’s like a breakup

Re-education camps.

livestreaming Trump supporters getting arrested for rioting at the capitol something I would pay full price to watch 🤔 hell, I’d even upgrade to ad-free premium