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This is how you know the political left is completely unhinged...

When the “no blood for oil” anti-war liberals suddenly want to keep troops in the Middle East just because Trump is the one to pull them out.

Democrats have no loyalty to any morals, principles, or people. They will change their minds and their word a thousand times if They don’t like the temperature of public perception.

If you vote for them, they will inevitably let you down too.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F Best Comment
Troll found your question now
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Th1nkF1rst · 70-79, M
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@Th1nkF1rst Oh great! There goes Smallville! 🥺

Stop putting words in our mouths, liar. None of us want to keep troops in the Middle East forever. But that's very different from supporting a sudden, surprise withdrawal that has already had devastating consequences, and promises to have even more negative results in the future.

It's fine to draw down our troops, but it should be done gradually and with the full knowledge of our own military leaders, and not with Trump waking up one morning and making a spur of the moment decision. This is so bad, even the usual crop of lickspittle Trump sycophants are criticizing it. It's only the cult members like you who think it's a good idea. And you only think that because your savior did it. I guarantee, if Obama had pulled a stunt like this, you'd be screaming for his head. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites. But if conservatives didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all!
GardenSage · 36-40, M
You talk in circles skweek. The original post is about the hypocrisy of your philosophy. This is amusing to me. It is just that simple.

Lol. @Kwek00
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@GardenSage You have a serious difficultie reading replies don't you gardengnome? You read certain parts, forget about the rest, react to it and call people stupid. Did you and HippyJoe hook up yet? Cause you are pretty much on the same level. American turd meets Canadian dipshit, it's a match made in the DMT-Heavens.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Lol 😂 @Kwek00 triggered.... you made a bad judgment call. You’re just Lashing out because you’re exposed.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
[image deleted]Clerkenwell pub sign London.
Subject closed! 🤷‍♀️
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@puck61 I pity you..
@Harriet03 I sure don't know why you would! My life is fantastic and my future is bright, you, on the other hand, live in England. You should save that pity for yourself!
@Harriet03 Yea right - the ones that come from the US
Turkey is a new seat in NATO.
where is NATO. The coalition?
Why is it Always up to the USA to do all the work and pay the bill?

Things they won’t mention..
Anyone who votes democrat obviously hates themselves. It couldn't be more obvious that they utterly destroy everything they touch.
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
Just another idiot trying to stir up trouble where there is none.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Let me ask you this:

Do you think that by attempting to level the playing field of atrocities that it somehow takes away from my point?

@SubstantialKick
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
@GardenSage You didn't even have a point to begin with. Nothing but horse crap, just like 90% of the political posts on this dang site 🤣.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@SubstantialKick well just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there .

If you don't have a leg to stand on, then sit the fuck down and shut up
Questioning Trump's decision-making should not be a Democrat/Republican thing, IMO.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@puck61 yup. He's a brilliant troll of the left's fraudulent, pandering, ineffective philosophy
MethDozer · M
@MistyCee facts
@MethDozer I'm not sure what the right approach should be with the middle East, but I don't trust Trump and Kushner to wing it, especially with the clamor from both sides saying this was wrong.

In this case, I think that my issue with Trump has less to do with being a registered Democrat or libtard than with having respect for experience and a more Conservative and less reactionary approach to decision making.

Sure, I noticed Trump saying he had conflicts in Turkey in 2015, but Graham and others saying wtf are you doing seems more significant. Those guys overlook Trump's self dealing and they STILL say this wasn't well thought out.
Now that Turkey has bombed American positions, are you ready to admit that Trump made a colossal blunder? Or it was "just an accident?"

If Obama had done this, you'd be screaming for his head.
@GardenSage No, it wasn't "calculated." That would have been a gradual withdrawal on a timetable, with our allies in the loop [b]and our own military leaders involved[/b]. And it didn't "assert diplomacy," Trump caved in to Erdogan. We just don't know why yet.

People like you are true believers, where whatever your savior does is automatically right, just because he's doing it. If Obama had done exactly the same thing, you'd be screaming your head off.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
My savior? Lol bro... I’m a libertarian.

That’s a card liberals play a lot.. it’s one of your public shame tactics. Kinda like bullying... where if I align just ONE of my ideas with Trump, he’s my messiah? Fuck outta here. Trump is a bullish businessman and this has his style written all over it. Your refusal to see anything that way only adds to the validity of the original post. @LeopoldBloom
@GardenSage And yet you're still going to support him, even if it's proven that he used his office to bully a foreign country into interfering in our election on his behalf. So you might as well be a MAGA-hat wearing cretin.
SW-User
My gosh, so much bias in this post. It’s not only Democrats, it’s Republicans too. Many of them were also upset by Trump’s decision.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Read the threads. I have qualms with Republicans too. @SW-User
SW-User
I'm sure you're justifying Trump sending more troops to Saudi Arabia right now...
@SW-User Trump always has an end game. I was upset about his seeming betrayal of the Kurds at first, and I don't like figuratively kissing the devil's ass with Saudi Arabia. Sometimes geopolitical dynamics require moral compromise. Reagan and Colonel North had to do similar things with the Iran contra deal. We've been kissing the devil's ass from time to time since 1784, and we certainly didn't invent the procedure! We have to put our nations strength first for the sake of her citizens, and unfortunately, we live in a fallen world where moral compromise is often politically expedient, if you want to have an 'end game'.
SW-User
@puck61 An end game involves supporting the country that is the source of modern Islamic fundamentalist ideology? Where bin Laden and many of the hijackers originated? S.A. is one of the major sponsors of Islamic terrorism worldwide. Iran is too so I’m not taking their side but our business with S.A. is questionable in its value in protecting our citizens at the [i]very[/i] least.
@SW-User Historically, it has been a necessary evil to climb in bed with the royals for about 80 years now.
katielass · F
Yes, I noticed that. Can't say I'm surprised though, you kind of expect stupid from stupid.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Lol you sound like a republican from 2008 @LeopoldBloom
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@LeopoldBloom but lol... what about now??? 😂
@GardenSage I never said "keep them there forever." I opposed sending troops over there in the first place, but once they're there, we shouldn't abandon our allies who sacrificed so much for us already. Withdrawal should have been on a timetable, with the full knowledge of our allies and [b]our own military leaders[/b], not Trump making a spur of the moment decision after a phone call with Erdogan that we still don't know what the content was.

It was a stupid move, and many conservative Republicans think so, too. And as it turns out, they were sent to Saudi Arabia, so Trump didn't even "bring the boys home."
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB81IBRzljQ]
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
GOOOOOO TEAM 💪
CoffeeFirst · 56-60, F
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GardenSage · 36-40, M
Funny how left wing “anti-military industrial complex” liberals suddenly side with SENIOR Grand Old Party imperialist Republicans.

Ask me why I’m not surprised in the least....

Drain the swamp. @EnchantedArtist
Thodsis · 51-55, M
Who would you vote for?
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@LeopoldBloom pathetic attempt to silence the opinion of a hard-working blue-collar American.

Let's not hear what the horses actually have to say....

Plug our ears and chant lalalalalalala because someone has a valid opinion and it's scary because it's different than mine.

That's the most un-american thing I can imagine.

Fully fucking American buddy.
@GardenSage Not if you support the traitor in chief who sold out the integrity of our elections to Ukraine and abandoned our Kurdish allies for god knows what from Turkey. I don't care if your ancestors settled Jamestown.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@LeopoldBloom lol... comments haven’t aged well for you have they...?
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@SevIsPamprinYouAlways lol... Y'all tap-dancing right now and it's pathetic
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
[image]@GardenSage
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Lol your comments aged not so well @SevIsPamprinYouAlways
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
So you're siding with Turkey that has a history of genocide and ethnic cleansing in their campaign against US allies?
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@Kwek00 how do you feel your stance on this post has aged in light of recent events
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@GardenSage Could annyone forsee recent events? Or is hindsigh 20/20 one of your powers GardenGnome?

I still stand by the idea that Europeans should watch in the mirror.
And I don't see what Basil is supporting working out either. Not even sure what you would be supporting in that case since none of the actors seem to be prepared to move towards that idea either.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@Kwek00 lol
MethDozer · M
I absolutely hate to say it but, for many on the left..... It certainly seems so. It's the only explanation in this case.

 
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