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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
I did my Scouting Essentials leader training course on the weekend just gone, and the subject of gender inclusiveness came up when we were talking about sleeping/toileting arrangements for camps and other similar activities.
The current ruling is that a trans person is allowed to use whichever facilities apply to the 'gender' that the trans person identifies as regardless of what their actual real gender (birth gender) is.
That means we have to allow trans youth identifying as male to use male facilities, similarly if they identify as female.
Nobody knows what to do with trans people who might think they are non-binary, or therian, or clown/clownself, or similar.
Remember there are only two genders - male and female - depending on what you were at birth.
The current ruling is that a trans person is allowed to use whichever facilities apply to the 'gender' that the trans person identifies as regardless of what their actual real gender (birth gender) is.
That means we have to allow trans youth identifying as male to use male facilities, similarly if they identify as female.
Nobody knows what to do with trans people who might think they are non-binary, or therian, or clown/clownself, or similar.
Remember there are only two genders - male and female - depending on what you were at birth.
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Sharon · F
@zonavar68
To me a man is a male, a woman is a female,
I agree, "man" and "woman" are just specific terms for adult male and female humans respectively. However, gender (masculinity and femininity) does not necesarily concur with sex (male and female). A man is not necessarily predominately masculine nor a woman predominately feminine, which they would be if sex and gender were the same.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@Adrift Humans who do not hate their fellow humans.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
"Can we invade the boys locker room for tampons and a shower?"
You can in Minnesota.
I haven't researched how many other states might have tampons in the boys' locker room.
BohemianBabe · M
@Thinkerbell
Well, the OP says...
She said "can we invade the boys locker room..." and she's an adult. So clearly, we're talking about adults here. But because you have naked children on the brain, you assumed this was about kids. Pedocon theory, yes?
Actually, all Tim Walz did was require that schools make it possible for anyone who needs a tampon to get one. Some schools put tampon machines in the bathrooms, others put them in the cafeteria or the hallways. But once again, y'all Pedocons are OBSESSED with naked children. So the first thing you go to is that kids in bathrooms are using tampons.
The OP talked about BOYS' and GIRLS' locker rooms, not men's and women's.
Well, the OP says...
"Having a male naked in the girls locker room heading to the showers with a towel over his junk led to 5 girls running out shrieking.
Can we invade the boys locker room for tampons and a shower?"
Can we invade the boys locker room for tampons and a shower?"
She said "can we invade the boys locker room..." and she's an adult. So clearly, we're talking about adults here. But because you have naked children on the brain, you assumed this was about kids. Pedocon theory, yes?
And I pointed out that invading the boys' locker room for tampons and a shower might be possible in Minnesota, thanks to Walz's law permitting it, another point that you and Shady have studiously dodged. Not many adults are found using school grades 4-12 bathrooms, although you and Shady might be exceptions.
Actually, all Tim Walz did was require that schools make it possible for anyone who needs a tampon to get one. Some schools put tampon machines in the bathrooms, others put them in the cafeteria or the hallways. But once again, y'all Pedocons are OBSESSED with naked children. So the first thing you go to is that kids in bathrooms are using tampons.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
twistedrope · 26-30, M
At work we have a gender neutral toilet and it is uncomfortable for everyone involved. Some avoid it and go to another toilet instead where it is gendered. Its a terrible situation.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@twistedrope Sounds like it was implemented poorly.
twistedrope · 26-30, M
@LordShadowfire It's a govt org so they were cost cutting in new and unusual ways.
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Cantsayno · 56-60, M
This is getting out of control. You can’t go into a locker room just because you identify as that gender.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
I bet the difference is percentages in the answer to this is not statistically different than the percentages of men and women on the site.
Justme264 · 70-79, M
I don't see why not - rules should be applied fairly
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
This is actually a pretty smart move on the guys part, for one he doesn't care if you run out, 2 one or more of you might stay, and 3 if you all run out he can steal all your panties.
BohemianBabe · M
cuteblondegreyguy · 56-60, M
It is MY understanding that-from a purely LEGAL standpoint-consenting adult men and women can take nude showers together ONLY in private places of residences-with no children present.
cuteblondegreyguy · 56-60, M
@Sharon I see. Let me be sure that I understand this correctly: In England-men, women, and children can take nude showers together? If the aforementioned is true-then this is FURTHER proof that nudity/nudism is not ALWAYS "sexual."
Sharon · F
@cuteblondegreyguy Yes, nudity per se is not necessarily sexual and definitely not a criminal offence.
cuteblondegreyguy · 56-60, M
@Sharon Very well expressed. :)
Jessmari · 46-50
Aa long as you don't interrupt the ring toss games. Wait your turn.
katydidnt · 61-69, F
This thread got me wondering: do nudist camps have communal showers? Seems logical, consistent with the basic premise behind their existence.
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
@katydidnt Yes they actually do. Usually an outdoors one so anyone can see you showering. They do have men and women washrooms for taking a piss though.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@JamesBugman That makes sense. That's something you want to do alone.
katydidnt · 61-69, F
@JamesBugman Seems reasonable. Reveal your pronouns, not your verbs.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
That would make my year when I was a kid, feel free
onewithshoes · 22-25, F
It's time to seriously consider the question of why communities should even spend the extra money to build separate facilities.
The purpose served by such duplication and separation is instantly invalidated the moment anything with a penis is allowed into into a facility supposedly set aside for females -- or the other way round.
The purpose served by such duplication and separation is instantly invalidated the moment anything with a penis is allowed into into a facility supposedly set aside for females -- or the other way round.
JestAJester · 31-35, M
You know trump passed a bill to forbid that? I wonder if it has passed yet
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
Yes, most men won't shreik and run out.
BlueVeins · 22-25
You're 56. You shouldn't be in a girls locker room in the first place.
DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
My shower is really only big enough for two
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@DownTheStreet I've never showered with anyone except myself and I *never* shower at work after my shifts (where there are currently seperate male and female facilities) nor do I even have a locker at work.
I don't believe the boys locker room has any tampons
GerOttman · 61-69, M
I think they should junk the whole thing and make all locker/shower areas coed and be done with it. Starship Troopers style!
cuteblondegreyguy · 56-60, M
@GerOttman I am in PARTIAL agreement with your contention-as long as co ed shower/locker room facilities are clearly labeled as such-and that persons who are uncomfortable with co ed arrangements would still have easy access to "men only" and "women only" facilities.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Ask them if they can "identify' as a different race.
pdockal · 56-60, M
The world has lost its mind
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Did the person with a towel have an erection? If not, then it's probably safe.
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BohemianBabe · M
Can we invade the boys locker room for tampons and a shower?
Only if you're hot. Hot chicks only!
Adrift · 61-69, F
They should have thrown tampons at him and chanted plug it up. Like they did in the movie Carrie.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
If you identify as a pervert then yes I guess so.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Your name and groups imply bestiality.
And YOU want to call others perverts?
And YOU want to call others perverts?
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onewithshoes · 22-25, F
@Adogslife
That all may have been true when you went to school,
but today it all depends on where you happen live, and what school you happen to attend.🙄
That all may have been true when you went to school,
but today it all depends on where you happen live, and what school you happen to attend.🙄
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@onewithshoes The Op said there was a male in the girls locker room. I find it hard to believe he wasn’t in his own locker room.
Personally, I think the post is a fake.
Personally, I think the post is a fake.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Is this another anti-trans post?
Thorstormbringer · M
No!
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