Should waitresses be naked?

@helenS do you still have it?

@Jacko1971 Must be in my sister's attic somewhere...

@helenS I'm sensing more to the story.

@exexec

That's okay, I'm not actually disputing your rationale for your comment. My own father has always felt the same way about me dating guys from the time I was a teenager. To him, a guy showing up at his door to take me out to a movie on a Friday night was on par with him envisioning me up on a stage in a strip club. I don't see the connection in my own mind, but in his mind there was one.

To him as my father, both examples were one in the same and he would feel as much anxiety on a Friday night when the boys would show up, as he would when I'd tease him about me thinking about getting a part-time job as a stripper in a strip club in some faraway place with a strange-sounding name.

To me as his daughter, I thought it was funny to watch his reaction anytime I'd say it, but to him, I was pushing the envelope.

I get what you're saying and I only ask and raise issue with you about your comment, no differently than I'd raise issue with my own father when I was 16 years old after he'd ask my 17 year old boyfriend in our kitchen what his intentions were with his daughter... or if he was employed full-time or not, when my friend would show up in his mom's car at our house at 6pm in the middle of summer!

@swirlie Many people don't care about seeing other girls naked but have an issue when it's their own that somebody sees naked. I guess it's a case of hitting too close that if it was the case it would have been his daughter. Of course that's only true if there's no choice.

This is as Matt Seaton sums up parents generally wanting to see their children as innocent, even into adulthood, but the fact is they are not innocent but only inexperienced. At some point they will be sexual and that makes a lot of parents uncomfortable.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/mar/13/childprotection.mattseaton

@MeisterAndrew
Absolutely correct in what you say here, which of course is what I was also conveying to @exexec in my last response to him.

But instead of him discussing this openly like the upwardly mobile adult that you obviously are, he chose instead to totally disengage with any discussion I subsequently initiated where the words "nudity" and "his daughter" were both contained in the same sentence, despite the fact that it was HE who brought his own daughter into this thread, not my solicitation to him of his daughter's personal business.

@JimboSaturn
Are you talking about a naked waiter or a naked waitress here...?

I was referring to a naked "waitress" who also worked as a stripper in your example given.

@swirlie yes

@JimboSaturn Well that is the purpose, to be embarrassed to serve as entertainment. Of course that's for those who are embarrassed. Most won't take the job if they feel embarrassed unless it pays really good and they need the money.

@rohitkkhannaa Exactly! One should ALWAYS show respect and courtesy to restaurant, nightclub, X rated adult establishment employees.

@cuteblondegreyguy oh give me a barf bag

@Slicker24 "Oh, give me a barf bag"-Jesus, Slicker 24: You should be able to due a much better job/endeavor of the fine art of effective argumentation then THAT!"

@ViciDraco It would have to be a speciality venue and not in an open market area. As far as being the choice of the waitress, only as far as she can choose where she works.

@JimboSaturn
Friends have taken me into Hooters in south Florida before and I've never found Hooters "cringy" but I did find Hooters very "oddly American" in their obtusely awkward marketing presentation of what amounted to a benign 'family' chain restaurant product.

@swirlie Same here, it's just a family restaurant with a different vibe and sexy girls no more than what you see on the beach. Why I don't feel a need to go there for that purpose. But then I also don't feel a need to go to a strip club, not when you can get a girl to strip for you in private. The way I've always seen strip clubs are places where married men go to for what they can't get at home. When it comes to Hooters, at least here, if you go there to see sexy girls acting sleazy and not for the food you'll be disappointed.

@MeisterAndrew

Really? What beach do you go to where you'd see a Hooters equal?

I'm at the beach all the time wherever I travel to in the world and I've yet to see girls on the beach trying to present themselves in the same vibe that American Hooters girls are hired and specifically trained to present themselves to those who patronize Hooters sports bars.

You may not know this but Hooters girls are fully clothed from neck to toe for hygienic reasons which is why they wear those hideous yet transparent pantyhose from their mid-waist to their toes with a pair of orange gym shorts thrown on overtop of that arrangement.


So, you must be referring to hiring a 'call girl' to strip for you on demand, when you say you can get a girl to strip for you in private. Otherwise, what girl can you get to strip for you in private unless she was either your girlfriend (who doesn't count) or a hired 'call girl' who's services are solicited for that purpose?


How would you know if married men frequent strip clubs or not, OR that married men go to a strip club for what they can't get at home?

The only way you could co-relate that perception to the patrons of any strip club is if you yourself were a married man and were in a strip club for that very reason. Otherwise, how else would you know that?

And why would you deduce that obtuse perception about married men if you didn't already know first-hand what a guy's motive was for patronizing a strip club featuring professional female strippers?

I should also ask you if what you've deduced about married men patronizing strip clubs also applies to married women who patronize male strip clubs?


Why would you even so much as infer that young women who work for Hooters, who are required by company policy to wear transparent pantyhose to above her waist with a pair of orange gym shorts thrown on overtop, with a matching orange tank top often worn overtop of a white cotton long-sleeved top, could even be remotely construed as "sexy girls acting sleazy"?

Let me remind you that Hooters Corp markets itself as a sports bar/chicken wings family restaurant chain spanning 29 countries with over 420 franchised locations, the very first of which was located in south Florida over 40 years ago, who's clientele include but is not limited to married men and their wives and children who sit at family tables being served by those girls wearing orange shorts and tops.

You would think that after 40 years of operation that the word would eventually get out on the street that Hooters sports bars do not tolerate sexy girls acting sleazy while on duty wearing the company logo on their shorts, which begs the question of why you would even think that ANY adult guy out there doesn't already know without asking, that he won't find sexy girls acting sleazy if he goes to a Hooters sports bar?

@SomeMichGuy Did when I had to share a barrack. But think someone was doing that in purpose.

@WintaTheAngle Ummm...ewww. lol

@WintaTheAngle I would think you're more likely to get head hair in your food than pubic hair.

@Jacko1971 Umm, did you actually mean unhygienic? :-)

@ArishMell I think I meant to say it "wouldn't" be very hygienic.

@TexChik 👍🏼

@SparkleLeaf I don't know of waitresses that are that old.