Should waitresses be naked?
In addition to serving should waitresses also be naked entertainment?
41-45, M
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swirlie · F
@exexec
I'm not really going anywhere with this, other than to play on your words about you saying 'no' to waitresses being naked while serving patrons, but your answer 'no' becoming your opinion because as you said, your daughter was a waitress.
I just found it odd that you would add that last caveat about your daughter once being a waitress, that's all... because if every waitress is somebody's daughter as you said they all are and which of course everyone already knows anyway that every waitress is somebody's daughter, then why would you bring your daughter into this conversation in the first place?
I'm not really going anywhere with this, other than to play on your words about you saying 'no' to waitresses being naked while serving patrons, but your answer 'no' becoming your opinion because as you said, your daughter was a waitress.
I just found it odd that you would add that last caveat about your daughter once being a waitress, that's all... because if every waitress is somebody's daughter as you said they all are and which of course everyone already knows anyway that every waitress is somebody's daughter, then why would you bring your daughter into this conversation in the first place?
JackOatMon · 46-50, M
@exexec No man wants to see his daughter nude. I get that.
swirlie · F
@JackOatMon
...but this discussion is not about a guy seeing his daughter nude! Why did you bring that point of irrelevancy into this discussion?
...but this discussion is not about a guy seeing his daughter nude! Why did you bring that point of irrelevancy into this discussion?
swirlie · F
@JackOatMon
No, that is not correct. He did not say that he didn't want to see any nude waitresses ..including his daughter. That is not what he said.
What he said was no, he didn't think that waitresses should be nude... because his daughter was ONCE a waitress, presumably many years ago.
His point to me in saying that was that every waitress out there is somebody's daughter and that is the only reason he gave for saying that 'no' waitress should be seen nude... because they are somebody's daughter.
No, that is not correct. He did not say that he didn't want to see any nude waitresses ..including his daughter. That is not what he said.
What he said was no, he didn't think that waitresses should be nude... because his daughter was ONCE a waitress, presumably many years ago.
His point to me in saying that was that every waitress out there is somebody's daughter and that is the only reason he gave for saying that 'no' waitress should be seen nude... because they are somebody's daughter.
JackOatMon · 46-50, M
@swirlie he heart my reply so i think that is what was reason behind his post but he can speak for himself.
swirlie · F
@exexec
That's okay, I'm not actually disputing your rationale for your comment. My own father has always felt the same way about me dating guys from the time I was a teenager. To him, a guy showing up at his door to take me out to a movie on a Friday night was on par with him envisioning me up on a stage in a strip club. I don't see the connection in my own mind, but in his mind there was one.
To him as my father, both examples were one in the same and he would feel as much anxiety on a Friday night when the boys would show up, as he would when I'd tease him about me thinking about getting a part-time job as a stripper in a strip club in some faraway place with a strange-sounding name.
To me as his daughter, I thought it was funny to watch his reaction anytime I'd say it, but to him, I was pushing the envelope.
I get what you're saying and I only ask and raise issue with you about your comment, no differently than I'd raise issue with my own father when I was 16 years old after he'd ask my 17 year old boyfriend in our kitchen what his intentions were with his daughter... or if he was employed full-time or not, when my friend would show up in his mom's car at our house at 6pm in the middle of summer!
That is the only reason I GAVE, but I may have many reasons why I think it is a bad idea.
That's okay, I'm not actually disputing your rationale for your comment. My own father has always felt the same way about me dating guys from the time I was a teenager. To him, a guy showing up at his door to take me out to a movie on a Friday night was on par with him envisioning me up on a stage in a strip club. I don't see the connection in my own mind, but in his mind there was one.
To him as my father, both examples were one in the same and he would feel as much anxiety on a Friday night when the boys would show up, as he would when I'd tease him about me thinking about getting a part-time job as a stripper in a strip club in some faraway place with a strange-sounding name.
To me as his daughter, I thought it was funny to watch his reaction anytime I'd say it, but to him, I was pushing the envelope.
I get what you're saying and I only ask and raise issue with you about your comment, no differently than I'd raise issue with my own father when I was 16 years old after he'd ask my 17 year old boyfriend in our kitchen what his intentions were with his daughter... or if he was employed full-time or not, when my friend would show up in his mom's car at our house at 6pm in the middle of summer!
MeisterAndrew · 41-45, M
@swirlie Many people don't care about seeing other girls naked but have an issue when it's their own that somebody sees naked. I guess it's a case of hitting too close that if it was the case it would have been his daughter. Of course that's only true if there's no choice.
This is as Matt Seaton sums up parents generally wanting to see their children as innocent, even into adulthood, but the fact is they are not innocent but only inexperienced. At some point they will be sexual and that makes a lot of parents uncomfortable.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/mar/13/childprotection.mattseaton
This is as Matt Seaton sums up parents generally wanting to see their children as innocent, even into adulthood, but the fact is they are not innocent but only inexperienced. At some point they will be sexual and that makes a lot of parents uncomfortable.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/mar/13/childprotection.mattseaton
swirlie · F
@MeisterAndrew
Absolutely correct in what you say here, which of course is what I was also conveying to @exexec in my last response to him.
But instead of him discussing this openly like the upwardly mobile adult that you obviously are, he chose instead to totally disengage with any discussion I subsequently initiated where the words "nudity" and "his daughter" were both contained in the same sentence, despite the fact that it was HE who brought his own daughter into this thread, not my solicitation to him of his daughter's personal business.
Absolutely correct in what you say here, which of course is what I was also conveying to @exexec in my last response to him.
But instead of him discussing this openly like the upwardly mobile adult that you obviously are, he chose instead to totally disengage with any discussion I subsequently initiated where the words "nudity" and "his daughter" were both contained in the same sentence, despite the fact that it was HE who brought his own daughter into this thread, not my solicitation to him of his daughter's personal business.