ElwoodBlues · M
@Broache73 says
Congress allocates to FEMA a large pool of disaster relief money every year, $20 to $40 billion, that can ONLY be spent on disaster relief. The spending bills make it a CRIME to spend it elsewhere. In the most recent continuing budget resolution on Sept 27, republicans REFUSED Biden's request to add to the FEMA disaster relief funds (links available upon request).
FEMA also has some other smaller pools of money it administers, including Shelter and Services Program AKA SSP. According to the spending laws passed by Congreess, this money can be given to local governments for humanitarian services to legal migrants such as asylum seekers.
Here's how you're being misled, @Broache73. You are being told that the FEMA disaster relief fund was depleted by some SSP spending.
That's a flat out lie.
That's a flat out lie.
The FEMA Disaster Relief fund is not and cannot be spent on humanitarian services to migrants. The Disaster Relief fund is only as large as both Houses of Congress allocate, and is only supplemented when both Houses act.
Congress holds the purse strings. Any shortfalls in FEMA Disaster Relief are due to the Sept 27 continuing budget resolution. Congress ALWAYS holds the purse strings.
We have no real say in how the US Government runs, or what Taxpayer Dollars are being forced to pay for.
Not that you're likely to care, but here's how you're being misled.Congress allocates to FEMA a large pool of disaster relief money every year, $20 to $40 billion, that can ONLY be spent on disaster relief. The spending bills make it a CRIME to spend it elsewhere. In the most recent continuing budget resolution on Sept 27, republicans REFUSED Biden's request to add to the FEMA disaster relief funds (links available upon request).
FEMA also has some other smaller pools of money it administers, including Shelter and Services Program AKA SSP. According to the spending laws passed by Congreess, this money can be given to local governments for humanitarian services to legal migrants such as asylum seekers.
Here's how you're being misled, @Broache73. You are being told that the FEMA disaster relief fund was depleted by some SSP spending.
That's a flat out lie.
That's a flat out lie.
The FEMA Disaster Relief fund is not and cannot be spent on humanitarian services to migrants. The Disaster Relief fund is only as large as both Houses of Congress allocate, and is only supplemented when both Houses act.
Congress holds the purse strings. Any shortfalls in FEMA Disaster Relief are due to the Sept 27 continuing budget resolution. Congress ALWAYS holds the purse strings.
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Broache73 · 51-55, F
Is anyone honestly surprised or shocked by this?! Genocide Joe has one foot on the Grave and the other on a Banana Peel, his bottom feeding Cackling Hyena of a Vice President got her Law Degree out of a Cracker Jack Box.
We have no real say in how the US Government runs, or what Taxpayer Dollars are being forced to pay for.
The Government is fleecing us at every turn and forcing us to pay for Endless Warfare that do more to fund the Military Industrial Congressional Complex than protect us, Pork Barrel projects that produce nothing, and a American Police State that serves to imprison us within its walls.
If you have no Choice, no Voice, and no real Options when it comes to the Government’s claims on your Property and your Money, YOU'RE NOT FREE!
While US Voters struggling to get by, and making tough decisions about how to spend what little money actually makes it into our pockets after the Federal, State and Local Governments take their share (this doesn’t include the stealth Taxes imposed through Tolls, Fines and other Fiscal penalties), the US Government continues to do whatever it likes—levy Taxes, rack up Debt, spend outrageously and irresponsibly—with little thought for the plight of its Citizenry.
This is no way of life.
In our History, when our forebears said “Enough is Enough” and stopped paying their Taxes to an illegitimate Government. They stood their ground and refused to support a System that was choking attempts at Self-Governance, and refused to be held accountable for its Crimes. Their resistance sowed the seeds for the Revolution that followed.
Unfortunately, in the 200-plus years since we established our own Government, we’ve let Bankers, Turncoats and number-crunching Bureaucrats pilfer the accounts to such an extent that we’re back where we started.
What if we didn’t just pull out our pocketbooks and pony up to the US Government’s outrageous demands for more Money?!
What if we didn’t dutifully line up to drop our hard-earned Dollars, no questions asked about how it will be spent?!
What if we did a little calculating of our own and started deducting from our Taxes those programs that we refuse to support?!
As made very clear in his book Battlefield America: The War on the American People by John Whitehead; If we don’t have the right to decide what happens to our own hard-earned Cash, then we don’t have any Rights at all!
We have no real say in how the US Government runs, or what Taxpayer Dollars are being forced to pay for.
The Government is fleecing us at every turn and forcing us to pay for Endless Warfare that do more to fund the Military Industrial Congressional Complex than protect us, Pork Barrel projects that produce nothing, and a American Police State that serves to imprison us within its walls.
If you have no Choice, no Voice, and no real Options when it comes to the Government’s claims on your Property and your Money, YOU'RE NOT FREE!
While US Voters struggling to get by, and making tough decisions about how to spend what little money actually makes it into our pockets after the Federal, State and Local Governments take their share (this doesn’t include the stealth Taxes imposed through Tolls, Fines and other Fiscal penalties), the US Government continues to do whatever it likes—levy Taxes, rack up Debt, spend outrageously and irresponsibly—with little thought for the plight of its Citizenry.
This is no way of life.
In our History, when our forebears said “Enough is Enough” and stopped paying their Taxes to an illegitimate Government. They stood their ground and refused to support a System that was choking attempts at Self-Governance, and refused to be held accountable for its Crimes. Their resistance sowed the seeds for the Revolution that followed.
Unfortunately, in the 200-plus years since we established our own Government, we’ve let Bankers, Turncoats and number-crunching Bureaucrats pilfer the accounts to such an extent that we’re back where we started.
What if we didn’t just pull out our pocketbooks and pony up to the US Government’s outrageous demands for more Money?!
What if we didn’t dutifully line up to drop our hard-earned Dollars, no questions asked about how it will be spent?!
What if we did a little calculating of our own and started deducting from our Taxes those programs that we refuse to support?!
As made very clear in his book Battlefield America: The War on the American People by John Whitehead; If we don’t have the right to decide what happens to our own hard-earned Cash, then we don’t have any Rights at all!
AbbeyRhode · F
Yep, and now they have nothing for the victims of Hurricane Helene. Those poor people have lost everything, and now have no hope of any help from this evil regime, while foreign invaders kick back in fine hotels, with free food, clothing, healthcare, and Democrat voter cards. 😡
DogMan · 61-69, M
@AbbeyRhode Biden/Harris will spend 100s of billion that we don't have, which will
increase inflation. They will blame it on Trump as soon as he is elected.
If Kamala is elected, they will blame the strike, for the new increase in
inflation.
increase inflation. They will blame it on Trump as soon as he is elected.
If Kamala is elected, they will blame the strike, for the new increase in
inflation.
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4meAndyou · F
This breaks my heart. North Carolina, alone, will now have thousands of homeless, and winter is coming.
Biden is an evil joke. Harris is worse. The American PEOPLE are going to have to dig deep, and GIVE even the tiniest amount of money that they have, so that these poor people can be HELPED.
Biden is an evil joke. Harris is worse. The American PEOPLE are going to have to dig deep, and GIVE even the tiniest amount of money that they have, so that these poor people can be HELPED.
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Broache73 · 51-55, F
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How is that anyone in their right mind trust a insolvent US Government that continuously undermines the Taxpayers and Consumers?!
The US Government including the current Administration —is spends money it doesn’t have and never had on Government Programs it can’t afford and never could afford, yet not surprisingly “We The Taxpayers ” are being forced to Foot The Bill for the Government's Fiscal insanity. The National Debt cesspool is $35+ Trillion and growing with no end in sight when it comes to the Government's Fiscal insanity. According to Forbes, Congress has raised, extended, or revised the definition of the Debt limit 78 times since 1960 to allow the Government to essentially fund its existence with a National Credit Card that it cannot pay off.
I honestly fear for American Voters who are dependent on the Government to care for and do ANYTHING else for them for that matter, this is how they're being and they'll be fleeced within the next few years for trusting a bankrupt Government in the first place😊
How is that anyone in their right mind trust a insolvent US Government that continuously undermines the Taxpayers and Consumers?!
The US Government including the current Administration —is spends money it doesn’t have and never had on Government Programs it can’t afford and never could afford, yet not surprisingly “We The Taxpayers ” are being forced to Foot The Bill for the Government's Fiscal insanity. The National Debt cesspool is $35+ Trillion and growing with no end in sight when it comes to the Government's Fiscal insanity. According to Forbes, Congress has raised, extended, or revised the definition of the Debt limit 78 times since 1960 to allow the Government to essentially fund its existence with a National Credit Card that it cannot pay off.
I honestly fear for American Voters who are dependent on the Government to care for and do ANYTHING else for them for that matter, this is how they're being and they'll be fleeced within the next few years for trusting a bankrupt Government in the first place😊
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@MarkPaul that's not what the dozens of people forming secret networks to keep the help coming in are saying.
Some are so desperate they're hijacking incoming trucks full of provisions headed for churches.
Theres one story about a local Sherrif ordered by someone in the governors office to and are commandeering huge piles of donated items. One woman who was running one of those was being accused of stealing things. Ya ryte. She doesnt even have a house at this point. Where is she gonna hide her big steal?
Supposedly its to get them to airports because the roads are destroyed and that did make some sense but why shut people that are helping down? .
As private helicopter owners are going there to do what they can to evac stranded families esp with small babies and delivering water and canned items the government wants to make sure it gets the credit perhaps.
But don't tell ppl a week in after the public steps up that government is handling it. That's just too insulting.
Some are so desperate they're hijacking incoming trucks full of provisions headed for churches.
Theres one story about a local Sherrif ordered by someone in the governors office to and are commandeering huge piles of donated items. One woman who was running one of those was being accused of stealing things. Ya ryte. She doesnt even have a house at this point. Where is she gonna hide her big steal?
Supposedly its to get them to airports because the roads are destroyed and that did make some sense but why shut people that are helping down? .
As private helicopter owners are going there to do what they can to evac stranded families esp with small babies and delivering water and canned items the government wants to make sure it gets the credit perhaps.
But don't tell ppl a week in after the public steps up that government is handling it. That's just too insulting.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SteelHands None of this is true though. When there is a natural disaster, while no one wants to be inconvenienced, restoring everything back to the way things were immediately is a fool's fantasy. FEMA is on the ground. Both government, for profit businesses, and non-profits are on the ground providing relief services and FEMA is already releasing funding for clean-up and restoration.
How many of the people who are struggling chose to remain in place rather than evacuating. They are no less deserving of relief efforts, but they also need to accept the consequences of their personal decisions and actions. It's like morons who decide to visit North Korea or Russia, get caught violating their unfair but sovereign laws, and then blame their government for not rescuing them immediately.
Don't expect the government to do everything for you and for taxpayers to bail you out of your own poor decisions on an accelerated basis. That is insulting to the rest of us who plan ahead and are self-reliant.
"F" the NRA.
How many of the people who are struggling chose to remain in place rather than evacuating. They are no less deserving of relief efforts, but they also need to accept the consequences of their personal decisions and actions. It's like morons who decide to visit North Korea or Russia, get caught violating their unfair but sovereign laws, and then blame their government for not rescuing them immediately.
Don't expect the government to do everything for you and for taxpayers to bail you out of your own poor decisions on an accelerated basis. That is insulting to the rest of us who plan ahead and are self-reliant.
"F" the NRA.
Broache73 · 51-55, F
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Yet again, A Government cannot fail those it does not serve😊
Yet again, A Government cannot fail those it does not serve😊
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Bhs123 So, you still think these people are going without food and water until their homes are rebuilt? You might not have much of an education, but there is such a thing as non-perishable foods, personal hygiene products, and purchasing food items that will last for short periods of time. It's certainly not ideal, but when faced with a natural emergency like a hurricane, $750 for grocery related items is a lifesaver.
Try going without food and water in the time it would take to rebuild or restore a house because you don't have access to a refrigerator and report back on your progress. And, then tell the people in the path of destruction and educate them on why they don't need the $750 of [u]supplemental[/u] support.
Try going without food and water in the time it would take to rebuild or restore a house because you don't have access to a refrigerator and report back on your progress. And, then tell the people in the path of destruction and educate them on why they don't need the $750 of [u]supplemental[/u] support.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
The only thing that surpasses wasting money on bad foreign policy is having nothing left to spend on a domestic crisis.
Millions of lives are now at stake and that half aware geriatric and the cackling bird brain have no idea that this not being addressed quickly and efficiently is because those lifer bureaucrats they're listening to wanted more votes from undocumented invaders so they misallocated the trucks and diesel fuel, the aircraft helos and jet fuel, and basically spent what emergency provisions being banked for exactly this kind of disaster to deliver a butload of skid steers, light towers, instabridges, generacs, well rigs and pumps, heat cooking fuel and sanitary and medical necessities.
A week in. These two make old George's Katrina look like a burst water main.
Millions of lives are now at stake and that half aware geriatric and the cackling bird brain have no idea that this not being addressed quickly and efficiently is because those lifer bureaucrats they're listening to wanted more votes from undocumented invaders so they misallocated the trucks and diesel fuel, the aircraft helos and jet fuel, and basically spent what emergency provisions being banked for exactly this kind of disaster to deliver a butload of skid steers, light towers, instabridges, generacs, well rigs and pumps, heat cooking fuel and sanitary and medical necessities.
A week in. These two make old George's Katrina look like a burst water main.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@MarkPaul As a salty old priq I'm gonna have to tell ya. Quit thinking you can tell. You're not good at it.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SteelHands Well, as a man of the world, I know when I see a troubled soul in denial.
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Hopefully Biden can convince his donors ( 25 million he was given) to have them supply the same amount to the ravaged states of Hurricane Helene.
Seriously, Biden instead of being spiteful needs go invoke the Taft Hartley provision and get the port strike ended. It could have an immediate impact on those people and areas needing aid and help.
Seriously, Biden instead of being spiteful needs go invoke the Taft Hartley provision and get the port strike ended. It could have an immediate impact on those people and areas needing aid and help.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BizSuitStacy Honestly, some random memes from Twitter constitutes as rumors. Can you name a single person who has only gotten a check for 750 and nothing more when they directly applied for assistance?
Or is this you catastrophizing based off little information provided coupled with your own biased fear and xenophobia?
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response
Or is this you catastrophizing based off little information provided coupled with your own biased fear and xenophobia?
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response
Rumor: FEMA does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance for Helene.
Fact:
FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs.
Rumor: Funding for FEMA disaster response was diverted to support international efforts or border related issues.
Fact:
This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.
Fact:
FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs.
Rumor: Funding for FEMA disaster response was diverted to support international efforts or border related issues.
Fact:
This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BizSuitStacy you can't do the math when fema says what you say is just a rumor and there's no person you can directly point to that has only gotten 750 when they applied for assistance.
Thanks for playing tho bye Felicia 😄
Thanks for playing tho bye Felicia 😄
AbbySvenz · F
Rumor: Funding for FEMA disaster response was diverted to support international efforts or border related issues.
Fact
This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.
https://www.fema.gov/node/funding-fema-disaster-response-was-diverted-support-international-efforts-or-border-relatedFact
This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.
AbbySvenz · F
“They stole the FEMA money, just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season,” Trump said in Michigan last week.
Non-citizens cannot vote in the election, and no disaster funds have been diverted. Instead, Trump and his allies are referring to the Shelter and Services Program that saw FEMA disseminate hundreds of millions in grants from Customs and Border Protection to municipalities that saw an influx of migrants.
That program was a separate funding source with a separate purpose covering separate years – and not relevant to the current hurricane recovery efforts.
Meanwhile, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson said Sunday he had no plans to bring lawmakers back from recess before the election to address requests for additional disaster relief as Hurricane Milton approaches the Florida coast as a Category 5 storm.
Non-citizens cannot vote in the election, and no disaster funds have been diverted. Instead, Trump and his allies are referring to the Shelter and Services Program that saw FEMA disseminate hundreds of millions in grants from Customs and Border Protection to municipalities that saw an influx of migrants.
That program was a separate funding source with a separate purpose covering separate years – and not relevant to the current hurricane recovery efforts.
Meanwhile, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson said Sunday he had no plans to bring lawmakers back from recess before the election to address requests for additional disaster relief as Hurricane Milton approaches the Florida coast as a Category 5 storm.
Spotpot · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 Cite your source about Biden and FEMA i bet it is a far right source. frequnted by MAGA.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@DogMan You haven't seen anything yet. It will be like what America did to Europe. Karma. Enjoy the flood.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@GeistInTheMachine What did America DO, to Europe? Save them from Facism
you mean? I would have you say thank you to my father, if he were still alive.
He went through hell in combat in Italy during WWII. Wounded twice, and also
suffered from the effects of trench foot his whole life. Not to mention nightmares
off and on until the day he died. He was forced to kill Germans with his bayonet,
at times just to save his life, while fighting for Europe.
YOUR WELCOME!!!!
you mean? I would have you say thank you to my father, if he were still alive.
He went through hell in combat in Italy during WWII. Wounded twice, and also
suffered from the effects of trench foot his whole life. Not to mention nightmares
off and on until the day he died. He was forced to kill Germans with his bayonet,
at times just to save his life, while fighting for Europe.
YOUR WELCOME!!!!
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@DogMan I'm not European. I'm Latin-American. I love ALL of the Greatest Generation that fought the fascists & imperialists, including the MILLIONS of Soviets and Chinese.
BUT that generation is passing away. What are we left with instead? This. Look outside of your bubble, sir.
What you don't understand is that Zionist Neoliberal America is now on the wrong side of history.
Your wars and economic hegemony have ruined the world and we are taking it back. American wars and economic sanctions have created a Migrant/Immigration crisis.
You want your country back? We want our world back!
Yankees all across the world, go home!
You stay in your borders stop messing with us and then we'll talk.
Until then, this is a Cold War that is turning real Hot, and you guys aren't ready for what you have unleshed.
The Hounds of Hell have been unleashed. Almighty God will strike the Great Satan of Amerikkka Down for all the world to see her genocidal sins.
Behold the Whore of Babylon: The United States of Israel.
BUT that generation is passing away. What are we left with instead? This. Look outside of your bubble, sir.
What you don't understand is that Zionist Neoliberal America is now on the wrong side of history.
Your wars and economic hegemony have ruined the world and we are taking it back. American wars and economic sanctions have created a Migrant/Immigration crisis.
You want your country back? We want our world back!
Yankees all across the world, go home!
You stay in your borders stop messing with us and then we'll talk.
Until then, this is a Cold War that is turning real Hot, and you guys aren't ready for what you have unleshed.
The Hounds of Hell have been unleashed. Almighty God will strike the Great Satan of Amerikkka Down for all the world to see her genocidal sins.
Behold the Whore of Babylon: The United States of Israel.
Spotpot · 46-50, M
Tom Tillis seems content with the help he is geting.
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Good for them.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
The good news is that the people in the flooded areas still have lots of dogs and cats that they can eat so all they need are sharp knives to skin them and some dry wood for fires to roast them over.
Cloud7593 · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes Mean!! 😦
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Cloud7593
Mean!! 😦
Why don't you want those hungry people to have some meat? If they don't eat the dogs and cats, what will they feed the animals?
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
This doesn’t surprise me. Klamyida prioritizes the illegal immigrants over US citizens
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