Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
Woodrow Wilson and LBJ come to mind. When he got his Great Society bill passed, LBJ was quoted as saying "I'll have those ni*****s voting Democrat for the next 100 years." Wilson was a big supporter of the KKK and he was quoted as saying that "Birth of a Nation" was a masterpiece of a movie.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Barefooter25 When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, he also famously said "I just lost the South to the Republicans for the foreseeable future".
BarefootedBoy · 56-60, M
@Barefooter25 You are spot on! Wilson was awful. Johnson was known to use the N-word a lot.
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nobodyishome · 31-35, F
@Kenworth4954 Because I know the devil who wears parda 🤣😂🤣😂
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
@seaglass Go away!
Adrift · 61-69, F
@nobodyishome This guy likes to goad people into circular arguments and twist things around.
Apparently he was never good enough to get enough attention on stage.
Apparently he was never good enough to get enough attention on stage.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Thrust I'm saying that JFK was a strong advocate of the Civil Rights Movement and the legislation during his time in the Senate, when he was running for President, and while lobbying Congress to pass legislation while he was President up to almost the end of 1963. Do you think major legislation like this is immaculately conceived overnight?
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akindheart · 61-69, F
@Heartlander whoa...i guess his VP got the memo because he passed the Civil Rights bill.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@akindheart I think it was more of politicians showing different faces to different audiences. JFK did that well.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@Heartlander absolutely correct!
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bijouxbroussard · F
@Mesthartiya Most definitely.
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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Define racist in your opinion. All could be, under the loose way the term is used these days. Reality is that the first handful or so of Presidents had slaves, but does that make them racists? Slavery was an accepted economic model at the time, even recognized in the Constitution. Jefferson had a LTR with Sally Hemmings after his wife died, fathering several children, and the relationship began in France where Sally was a free-person. She agreed to return to slavery on his plantation on condition he would free all their children on his death. So the relationship was more than just a master abusing a female slave.
I think the most indisputable racist President would be Andrew Jackson, who waged genocide against Native Americans in addition to being a slave owner. Ironically, he is characterized as the first President coming from the ranks of common folk rather than the rich and privileged; the first truly demographic President (with a small d). Such is the usual hypocrisy of populist politics.
I think the most indisputable racist President would be Andrew Jackson, who waged genocide against Native Americans in addition to being a slave owner. Ironically, he is characterized as the first President coming from the ranks of common folk rather than the rich and privileged; the first truly demographic President (with a small d). Such is the usual hypocrisy of populist politics.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@bijouxbroussard I don't disagree with either of your points. The only point I was making with Sally was that she had the legal opportunity to go free while in France, and chose not to (although there undoubtedly was the reality of being a young single mother in a foreign land). The country and society were clearly racist. My only point was a question of whether because society was racist, and people were born into an economy and mindset dominated by slavery and essential for them to remain economically competitive with their neighbors and when there were few "woke" people arguing otherwise, does this make them racist in the same degree as those in denial about systemic racism today when there is no excuse to not have been awakened?
bijouxbroussard · F
@dancingtongue Racist is racist. Why tends to be mostly irrelevant, whether it comes from hatred or ignorance. And black people were using the term "woke" long before whites discovered that slang and redefined it.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@bijouxbroussard Understand the roots of the term. Also understand that if you are on the receiving end, racism is equally devastating despite the reason for it. My only point is that we we have degrees of guilt for murder and other high crimes. It seems to me that engaging in racist behavior today when neither ignorance nor hatred is a justifiable excuse is a little different when societal norms were different and you were taught to believe differently, as racist and wrong those teachings were.
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UnderLockDown · M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout True. It wasn't an issue, everyone got along.
bijouxbroussard · F
LBJ was originally a "Dixiecrat". But he did push through both the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which effectively made racial segregation illegal, and the Voters’ Rights Act of 1965, which was protecting voters, giving some kind of recourse, until this century, when the GOP took the teeth out of it. JFK had authored these acts, and after his assassination, many didn’t believe Johnson would honor them. But surprisingly, he did.
It would probably be easier to name the presidents who weren’t racists; all the slave-owning ones had to be.
Andrew Johnson, president after Lincoln’s assassination, was a Southern sympathizer who helped dismantle the Reconstruction accomplishments and even gave reparations intended for freed slaves to some slaveowners to compensate them for "loss of property".
Woodrow Wilson was just one of the presidents of his era who supported Jim Crow laws, under which states could authorize separate facilities not only for schools but for hospitals and clinics, sports events, restaurants, barbershops, railroad and bus stations, restrooms, beaches, public parks, and many other places.
It would probably be easier to name the presidents who weren’t racists; all the slave-owning ones had to be.
Andrew Johnson, president after Lincoln’s assassination, was a Southern sympathizer who helped dismantle the Reconstruction accomplishments and even gave reparations intended for freed slaves to some slaveowners to compensate them for "loss of property".
Woodrow Wilson was just one of the presidents of his era who supported Jim Crow laws, under which states could authorize separate facilities not only for schools but for hospitals and clinics, sports events, restaurants, barbershops, railroad and bus stations, restrooms, beaches, public parks, and many other places.
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Mesthartiya · M
@Thrust Of course, of course. Exactly like the Hunter Biden prosecution. No wonder Biden pardoned him.
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