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Do you think narcissists and sociopaths are born that way or do you think their circumstances molded them to be the way they are ??

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It depends on many things
Their environment, how they were treated by their caretakers /parents
..also it could be a neurological issue

I watched an interesting documentary many years ago. It was about sociopaths and psycopaths . They were looking at mri scans of a " normal " brain and compared to the brain of a psychopath. There is definitely a difference. Turned out this doctor in the documentary did one of these brain scans and his resembled that of the psychopath brain. He explained he had a wonderful upbringing with loving and supportive parents and perhaps that had something to do with how he turned out doing well . It was just interesting.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@catastrophecarnival My sisters say their brain scans are abnormal and both have severe personality disorders. I had seizures as a child and although I didn’t ever say it I thought I would be the one out 4 sisters to have those problems. They call me the “Lucky One.” My sisters were doted on and I was treated as the worker child of the family
Sweetpoison · 41-45, F
If they were not born that way then i think they got molded that way in a really young age
Punches · 46-50, F
Something had to happen to make them that way.

Some try to explain it away with science, but the experts never seem to say, "Maybe it is because he or she was treated very badly at some point in life."

Trauma does have lasting effects.
4meAndyou · F
I think sociopaths are born that way and are unable to change. Narcissists, on the other hand, were molded and trained to be that way...usually by their abusive narcissist parents.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou I heard a psychologist say that all narcissists carry deep shame. At least they have an awareness and a conscience but apparently they choose not to act on it. I imagine much of their shame comes from manipulating people for things and it gives them a false sense of power and they know it’s basically cheating.
4meAndyou · F
@cherokeepatti Perhaps they do. However, they certainly conceal their shame VERY well.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou They try to cover it with arrogance…false pride.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Genetic predisposition plus they have someone doting on them at a very young age that reinforces their way of thinking and behaviors. And with their relentless destructive patterns of evil behavior I don’t doubt demon possession. Have heard psychologists who have dealt with them even say this.
Adrift · 61-69, F
They are personality disorders that develop over time.
Psychopaths on the other hand can have a both genetic as well as environmental factors involved.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
That's a tough question! I think it is more nature.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
I think its mostly nurture that fosters empathy and/or narcissism, not nature.
Miram · 31-35, F
A combination of both.

Personality disorders aren't as common as people believe them to be. It irritates that many these days claim to have dated a narcissist or a sociopath..etc Throw that word around either for attention, or desperately attempting to grasp that everyday people are capable of manipulation, control and deceit..

And not all of those who have the disorders are dangerous or destructive..

Other disorders I see being romanticized or demonized include bipolar and borderline.
BeJeweled · 61-69, F
I know someone who is narcissistic. So was his dad. Its deep rooted in him and will take years of therapy for him to overcome what his parents brainwashed into him.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
I heard a psychologist say that psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. Not sure about narcissism.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@DearAmbellina2113 This is true at extremes of the spectrum. But it is a spectrum. So there are shades of grey..😷
@DearAmbellina2113
Both are correct.

Narcissism requires some genetic input however. Our environment will either keep one's narcissism suppressed, or it will enable it to flourish. Without that genetic seed however, narcissism cannot be made like sociopaths are also made.
Narcissism is a personality disorder which means it's developed or "nurtured". They're not born that way.

Sociopathy is not in the DSM so its rules are really subjective.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
You need a predisposition to it. But then it has to be switched on , usually by your environment😷
Aysel · F
My relative is a sociopath due to his mother having electrotherapy when pregnant with him. Narcissism could be genetic or environmental; for example, if your parents overpraised or scolded you, you may acquire narcissism; however, this cannot be generalised to everyone because it is much more complex.
Umile · 41-45, F
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
I think that like a lot of mental illness it is genetic. 3 of my children are autistic. Their grandfather was autistic. A friend's son is schizophrenic so was his grandmother.
Lilymoon · F
Born that way
from what I’m learning about it , after the adolescent stage the kids personality and character is revealed fully in adult years , however people of any age should know the difference between right and wrong … that comes down to conscience

So much to learn , we owe it to ourselves to do so 🙏🏼📕🪅
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@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout name them 😛
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
I think it's probably a combination of genetics and environment.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
It’s both for sure
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Psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made.

Narcissistic personality disorder requires some genetic input to qualify, which means you can be born with it but your environment prevents it from surfacing, or you can be born with it and you learn to cultivate that narcissistic predisposition into fruition.
Their upbringing usually plays a pivotable role.

 
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