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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Really 57% of US households paid no federal tax last year. Up from 44% before the pandemic. CNBC isn't really a conservative source for news. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/25/57percent-of-us-households-paid-no-federal-income-tax-in-2021-study.html#:~:text=Since%20most%20workers%20pay%20payroll%20taxes%2C%20the%20share%20of%20American,pay%20state%20and%20local%20taxes. Child tax credits are a big part of that.
Really · 80-89, M
@Roadsterrider Non sequitur; off topic.
I am strongly pro-choice. Women should have autonomy over their own bodies. It’s a right. If not we’re nothing more than livestock. It’s also amazing to me that the majority of people who scream murder and close your legs are men, especially geriatric men who don’t have to go through any of that. Isn’t it strange how women and their bodies, what they do with them have been the result of so much conflict? And yet those people don’t mind countless young men being killed in wars.
Chickie · F
@LilithoftheTrees a lot of act women that that way too
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SatanBurger Great, we get to pay to kill babies all across the globe, wonderful
tindrummer · M
@SatanBurger this guy's big on repeating crap ad nauseum like hippy joe - at least no memes yet 😅
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@tindrummer Hey no memes is a plus, they can formulate words lols.
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Really · 80-89, M
@MarmeeMarch How many sperm have you been trying to talk to? 🤠
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649 They are talking about still births. What does an actor who was "so moved by a mass he once saw" that he donated to a children's hospital have anything to do with stillbirths?
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Really · 80-89, M
@MarmeeMarch [quote]smartest phrase I've heard all year[/quote]I don't doubt it
MasterDvdC · 61-69, M
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Really · 80-89, M
@MarmeeMarch [quote]Thanks for stating the obvious...
[/quote]Anytime you need the help.
[/quote]Anytime you need the help.
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@MasterDvdC how does it feel to know everything?
Repete · 61-69, M
I am a man so I can’t say what a woman has to go through to make that decision. I believe having a baby takes two people and should not be taken lightly once pregnant they need to accept the responsibility for their decision.
I also can understand to some degree a woman that has health issues or has been raped not wanting to have the baby.
On another post on here someone said they are trying to pass a law that gives the mother a month after birth to decide if they want the baby, PEOPLE how on earth can this be anything but murder. After birth there is no way of not calling the baby a human being. This is a sick and twisted law if it ever becomes one. This is my opinion such as it is.
I also can understand to some degree a woman that has health issues or has been raped not wanting to have the baby.
On another post on here someone said they are trying to pass a law that gives the mother a month after birth to decide if they want the baby, PEOPLE how on earth can this be anything but murder. After birth there is no way of not calling the baby a human being. This is a sick and twisted law if it ever becomes one. This is my opinion such as it is.
Repete · 61-69, M
Murder is murder no doubt but circumstances change a cold blooded murder into a self defense case dismissed type of trial. Also when is a woman’s body no longer her body ? I personally think both the man and the woman needs to think long and hard before even having sex let alone so-called protected sex. The man is just as much guilty if she gets pregnant even by mistake. @Spoiledbrat
Spoiledbrat · F
I just feel if one feels abortion is murder then it's murder. There shouldn't any be exceptions. And if it's not murder than it's not. @Repete
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Repete On another post of here someone said something completely r*tarded, and in fact when asked to give the exact reference supporting what he was babbling about he chickened out.
Life Pro tip: verify your sources before feeling outraged at fictional problems that the lamest populist rightwing creates to easily manipulate you and steal your vote.
Life Pro tip: verify your sources before feeling outraged at fictional problems that the lamest populist rightwing creates to easily manipulate you and steal your vote.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
I don’t want to debate abortion. I do want to point out though that there’s a [i]huge[/i] difference between spending short-term time with children and becoming a full time, 24-7 mother, likely single mother if we’re talking about abortion with minimal support. There is the possibility you being a preschool teacher means that you’re a nurturing person who likes kids, maybe has some experience with structure and routine. My point is that you may have characteristics that are great for a someday-mom to have that not everybody does, particularly people who are considering abortion.
Again, not trying to persuade you to be pro-choice. Only pointing out that it’s important to be aware that you may not be as experienced in this area as you self-perceive and that influences your opinion on the topic @AnxietyMaci
Again, not trying to persuade you to be pro-choice. Only pointing out that it’s important to be aware that you may not be as experienced in this area as you self-perceive and that influences your opinion on the topic @AnxietyMaci
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
spjennifer · 56-60, T
I am pro-choice, it's not my body, it's the woman's body and hers to make a very difficult decision with the support of her Doctors and hopefully the man who got her pregnant.
I don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control as there are much easier methods to prevent pregnancy but again, not my body. Most pro-life people don't give a shit what happens to the child after it's born but by Gawd it had better be born, no matter the circumstances. Forcing women who've been raped to give birth is prehistoric and just totally sick and wrong.
I don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control as there are much easier methods to prevent pregnancy but again, not my body. Most pro-life people don't give a shit what happens to the child after it's born but by Gawd it had better be born, no matter the circumstances. Forcing women who've been raped to give birth is prehistoric and just totally sick and wrong.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Abortion is just something that happens due to circumstance that's why I'm pro choice. I am neutral in that matter, I think pro life is an irrational position to take based on emotion because it doesn't think of circumstance. It thinks of only its political pro life position even if the baby and the mother are caught in the crosshairs.
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I view abortion as aborting a living creation... a child made by TWO (2) people and often seen as unwanted and an inconvenience. I see abortion as one or two people ending the life cycle of a child they both made. I see abortion as an end to a child's life that should never have been started if people aren't willing to step up and raise a child.
I've raised my children and loved each one... a bond was formed long before they were born. If you don't want children, then don't make the beginnings of a child... men and women!
You may be here because you didn't ask to be born, but I don't see anyone aborting themselves.
As for rape, that isn't always a case for abortion.
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I've raised my children and loved each one... a bond was formed long before they were born. If you don't want children, then don't make the beginnings of a child... men and women!
You may be here because you didn't ask to be born, but I don't see anyone aborting themselves.
As for rape, that isn't always a case for abortion.
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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@jackjjackson I agree. Tired of hearing about the poor women who have to carry that child for nine months. Tired of hearing how it's her body and her choice.
Bunch of whiney babies who can't deal with being adults. I'm having a bad day and don't care if anyone doesn't like my views.
Bunch of whiney babies who can't deal with being adults. I'm having a bad day and don't care if anyone doesn't like my views.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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bijouxbroussard · F
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@SW-User I agree. Most cases, it's just another form of birth control.
bijouxbroussard · F
@SW-User I respect that you’ve said you’re [b]neutral[/b]. Those of us who are pro-choice support the woman’s or girl’s right to decide either way. We’re neither paying her bills nor adopting any children she may have.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 Sperm killer ☺️
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
It seems each woman (along with her family or friends IF she chooses) is in the very best and ONLY position to determine what to do in this individual situation. It is literally mindboggling that this would be an area anyone (male or female) would want to invoke community or government decision-making.
Really · 80-89, M
How do I view abortion? As a procedure some people decide to undergo for very personal reasons;. and a choice that can force one to painfully weigh the balance between opposing moral & ethical principles.
(I'm not saying that just because I've 'already actually been born' 🤣 🙄).
(I'm not saying that just because I've 'already actually been born' 🤣 🙄).
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Evilnine86 · 36-40, M
WhateverWorks · 36-40
Torsten · 36-40, M
I view Abortion necessary in some very care cases where it puts the mothers life in danger if not done.
I hate that men do not get a voice in the murder of their baby and overall do not support abortions in the slightest. To me it is clear cut murder
I hate that men do not get a voice in the murder of their baby and overall do not support abortions in the slightest. To me it is clear cut murder
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Murder is hyperbole however I generally agree with you. I think it totally unfair that the father has no say although if she DOES have the child he is liable for child support. If she doesn’t want it and he does, shouldn’t SHE be liable for child support. BOTH created the child. @Torsten
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familyfunguy · 56-60, M
I'm the janitor at an abortion clinic. I guess I'm pretty numb to it, you do what you have to do.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@familyfunguy Room 222 could use some cleaning.
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I'm pro abortion for the stupid
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
tindrummer · M
don't like it but firmly pro-choice
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
OK …….? @tindrummer
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As a difficult choice
Spumoni · 46-50, M
I'm a choice sort of guy.
Spoiledbrat · F
I am pro choice.
bijouxbroussard · F
Chickie · F
It's her choice period. Women are not baby machines.
Chickie · F
@AnxietyMaci you don't know they're situation it could be a number of things besides the rape and incest thing.
AnxietyMaci · 22-25, F
@Chickie idrc lol. Don't have sex then.
Chickie · F
@AnxietyMaci that's a typical dumbass pro-life logical.
lumberjackslam · 41-45, M
pro death here
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spjennifer · 56-60, T
@ZZZZZZZZZZ Trying to couch homophobia and bigotry in your so-called good deeds doesn't make you any less odious. Do tell how anyone, even a Doctor can tell a child is going to be homosexual in the womb you bigoted moron? Unless that is you agree that homosexuality is genetic and not a "choice"?
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spjennifer · 56-60, T
@ZZZZZZZZZZ At this point, the only "epigenetic" studies I'm aware of have only been 50-60% accurate and the study sizes too small to prove anything definitively and certainly not your claims of it being a "birth defect". You might as well claim that blonde hair and blue eyes are "birth defects" as the majority of people have brown eyes and brown hair... The study you cite is 10 years old and doesn't prove anything beyond possible correlation, Ngun's study in 2015 is more recent and again sample size was too small and accuracy rate too low to prove anything definitively. All of this doesn't change the fact that you're a homophobe and a bigot...
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Really · 80-89, M
@MarmeeMarch [quote]Only a old geezer would fantasize about getting pregnant.[/quote]Oh come on; even you can do better than that!
Really · 80-89, M
@MarmeeMarch [quote]keep going, you can do it ![/quote] No need; you did it yourself.