Non Binary

I was referring to feminine males and masculine females. I wouldn't get a facelift unless I aged really ungracefully, and could afford it , and was just really unhappy. I know someone who got a boob job but again I wouldn't do that unless I was really unhappy. But being happy with how your body looks is ideal to major changes. I took a lot of linguistic and social work courses. I'm not talking about exercise or diet. I'm not *talking about sex changes. We can become too focused on our plight and later become more at one with ourselves. I think that's why sex change is so controversial with children. I would ignore people that are being dicks. They don't get it and won't anytime soon. @Spoiledbrat @sree251

Remember how M J looked? It's better to embrace yourself if at all possible. @sree251 @sree251 I just feel like I was talking about something different than what you were talking about.

@Spoiledbrat You said: "We can become too focused on our plight and later become more at one with ourselves."

Self-identity issues stems from a sense of insecurity in relationship. We see each other as physical bodies rather than psychological entities with compatible attitudes. We all want to be loved to the point of desperation.

@Jessmari very true I’m just confused as to what I am !!

@natasha69 ⬅️

@nevergiveup thank you ♥️

@Patriot96 and you got your degree in psychiatry where?

@Lostpoet You have led me down a garden path into Donne's mind. His poems are intoxicating.

The OP has asked for a simple clarification of self-identity. One's world may be cunningly made, but who - or should I say what - is the maker of that world?

@sree251 In John Donne's time it was God, but in the modern times science suggests random mutations of the genes and our environment dictates our personalities. I believe that everyone one and everything has a soul so I lean towards the idea of a God creating us. But I also think that God doesn't make mistakes so if you're Trans or Gay then that's the way God made you and it doesn't make you bad.

@Lostpoet You said: "But I also think that God doesn't make mistakes so if you're Trans or Gay then that's the way God made you and it doesn't make you bad."

God is one way, and science (namely, us intellectuals) is another. The OP has presented us a situation that is neither yours nor mine to endure. I assume your body is male, and so is mine. You live your life as a man with a body that is made to specs to complement the body of a woman. Natasha has been dealt a wild card, and must live with a body somewhere in between.

You don't believe in God, and neither do I. You have a body somewhere in between. How would you deal with this. We owe natasha a straight answer.

@sree251 I’m happy with that thanks

@sree251 But physically speaking one is male female or intersex.

@Spoiledbrat I understand where you are coming from. Those of us with ambiguous physiques find it hard to fit into a binary sexual mindset. I have researched this, and there are some body types that are problematic and difficult to adjust to.

First of all, we are not our bodies, and our bodies are not us. We are psychological in nature while our bodies are not. The connection between mind and body is tenuous. Personally, I have come to dismiss the tie as unnecessary and irrelevant to practical life. Sexuality that is wholesome is not a conscious affair.

@ninalanyon seek couseling

@Patriot96 For what purpose?

@Torsten Trans men, non binary people, and children are examples of people who aren’t women who can give birth. You are really bad at this.

@Flenflyys Not everyone identifies as the sex they are born as.

@Spoiledbrat that’s literally what I said

@Peaceandnamaste or at least come up with a new joke.

@sree251 im not going to argue your unassociated argunents ..

If you want to talk about your hypotheses - make your own post about them.

Ive already requested that you stop..

Now I'm telling you - stop.

@OogieBoogie You said: "If you want to talk about your hypotheses - make your own post about them."

My hypotheses? I have none. I am debunking your hypothesis that there is such a thing as we and them. We are all the same. Putting people in different compartments because they have slitty eyes, blacks kin, or abnormal body types, is bigotry. Get it?

@JestAJester says [quote]. The only exception maybe is that there are people with mutations that have given them a mix up of X and Y chromosomes but they are a tiny tiny percentage of the populace.[/quote]
Yeah, but they are people and they are citizens and they don't fall into either category.

Also, chromosomes make up the genotype, and a few genotypes are neither XX nor XY. Sex organs help determine the phenotype, and some people are born with a range from no functioning sex organs to varying amounts of male & female sex organs on the same individual (these are often called intersex; sometimes hermaphrodite).

But there's one other sex organ we've left out. [b][i]The Brain.[/i][/b] And it's far and away the most complex sex organ of all. So when someone says they've felt female for the past sixty years, who are we to deny those decades of their life???