History Repeats Itself: College Leftists Create Jew-Free Zones on Berkeley Campus – the Home of Free Speech
UC Berkeley prides itself on being the home of free speech.
According to the UC Berkeley website, “Free speech is one of UC Berkeley’s most cherished values: It is both part of our legacy as the home of the Free Speech Movement as well as central to our academic mission.”
Of course, that may have been true at one time, but that was before the modern day Marxist left took over academia.
Nine different UC Berkeley student groups recently banned Jews who support Israel from speaking on campus.
@MistyCee Thats true to a point,but when you have private agencies like Twitter et.al censoring information and news stories essentially ON BEHALF of the government,than youre running into a problem.
@DavidT8899 And it's, imo, truly a different problem.
Or at least worthy of a different post.
Maybe even a bigger post, or a new category, because I think national "politics" are increasingly becoming subsidiary to economic multinational politics.
Well, the veil that antifa, BLM, and all "Progressives" use to disguise themselves and their origins as Marxists who escaped from Nazi Germany is shredding to bits.
@MistyCee Skokie tolerated the Nazi's better than groups who brought it up and made a scene. And the permit was actually issued by the Forest Preserve District.
Nine different UC Berkeley student groups recently banned Jews who support Israel from speaking on campus.
"@MistyCee I understand. Administrative bureaucracy. In the end, it comes down to "No (insert group you dislike here) allowed". Doesn't seem very American to me. Lawsuits should follow.
@carpediem Mebbe, but I don't think lawsuits are such a great thing here, especially with student organizations where the "real" litigants are likely to graduate and move on before they're resolved.
The reality is, even in law schools, we're basically practicing stuff for our young uns, and the process is more important than the specifics.
UC Berkeley has been a liberal Mecca for a very long time. Free speech is ok as long as it’s what they want to here. If not you’re banned from the campus.
Marxists justify even the most destructive of violent civil unrest as free speech but expressing conservative opinions on leftist campuses "ist strengstens verboten!"
@Theyitis I have no idea who has control over the "comments" switch, whether Yahoo or HuffPost. But the frequency of HuffPost articles thee is a pretty clear give-a-way that someone at Yahoo News tilts left.
Funny how the next step from the so-called party of diversity and inclusion is segregation. There's also "whites not allowed" off-campus housing in Berkeley. If Republicans did this (not that we would) the FBI would already have raided these places. But these people vote Democrat so its OK.
Hitler gave an unhappy nation a group to hate and blame, liberals can't hate gunowners or christians or people who love the country without cutting their own base. The percentage of people of Jewish descent in the US is about 1% of the total population, maybe they think they can absorb that loss by gaining support from the rest of the antisemitic population.
@Theyitis Because in this country, they are insignificant, they will never be a power to contend with. Do you disagree with my assessment of the Nazi's or Bud's topic and anything that might support it? I think it is historically accurate that Hitler blamed the Jew for of Germany's woes to the point of genocide. Do I find it alarming that an institute of higher learning would bar those of Jewish descent from certain areas, yes I do. Does it matter what political party they are affiliated with? Not to me it doesn't.
@Budwick As much as I'm tempted to continue with this, I'm really not sure its worth it.
Without doubt, some students and some student organizations at Berkely law school are expressing their freedom to speek by trying to limit other individuals' right to speak.
You didn't give me a frigging cite, and when I googled the terms you mentioned, the first thing I came up with was the Administration saying they didn't necessarily agree with the student organisation's votes on the issue.
The students, frankly, really can't, IMO, "defy the Constitution" because they're not state actors, and, in f-ing fact, the First Amendment says that the State can't deny their right to try speak, including speech about others right to speak.
I don't honestly know what UC's reaction to this is, other than reading a frigging Jewish adminstrator's statement that he's not comfortable with it, but my hope is that, as a public institution, it will allow this debate to go on between the various student organizations, and react, ultimately, in accord with its onw REAL First Amendment obligations as a state entity.
@MistyCee Yeah, it seems like a dead horse to me too. I think if you had opened with your final paragraph, we could have closed the book on thise much earlier.
Typical liberal commie a hole Turned that way by the commie rat Professors Such bullshit All of these professors should be fired For pushing their political views On the students
@DDaverde They're law students. Calling their profs Commie Ahole rats probably isn't the best approach.
I mean, I guess, most of them have probably been "indoctrinated" already, with stuff like the ABCs, but still, you might offer them more than pre-hominid sentiments to sway them.
on a positive note, when history does repeat itself and we go back to hanging nazis and commies, we can laugh at their pleas that they were "just following orders" shortly before we execute them by hanging or firing squad...🤔
Because when people start throwing stones it won't be a problem for the Jewish man who is their target to stop them and ask "Is this an antisemitic rock, or just an antizionist one?"
Boycotting "Jewish people who support Israel" - is a very different thing than boycotting Jewish people.
The student groups have not blocked Jewish people from speaking. They have decided that they do not want to hear speeches from Israel supporters. Possibly because Israel has a pretty poor behavioral record lately.
@Budwick I would have to know more about the process and policies of having speakers at the university and who pays for the people to come and talk.
It's not a violation of freedom of speech if people decide they don't want to pay you to hear your ideas.
If the place they were wanting to speak at is open as a "public square" type of forum and they wish to speak freely without compensation just like anyone else can, then it would be a violation to bar them from speaking. Though these are probably paid speaking invitations which don't count.