History Repeats Itself: College Leftists Create Jew-Free Zones on Berkeley Campus – the Home of Free Speech

UC Berkeley prides itself on being the home of free speech.

According to the UC Berkeley website, “Free speech is one of UC Berkeley’s most cherished values: It is both part of our legacy as the home of the Free Speech Movement as well as central to our academic mission.”

Of course, that may have been true at one time, but that was before the modern day Marxist left took over academia.

Nine different UC Berkeley student groups recently banned Jews who support Israel from speaking on campus.

This is happening across the US today.

It’s like history is repeating itself.

WTF?

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MistyCee

Not that history isn't repeating itself in some ways, but it's a little different.

There are plenty of folks including leftists fighting with these groups at Berkeley, for one thing, and the Marxist connection is really contorted.

Having said that, I'm glad that Berkeley is Berkeley and that disputes like this can happen there.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@MistyCee

I'm glad that Berkeley is Berkeley and that disputes like this can happen there

Despite all your wandering Misty - the bottom line of what you have written is that you support the suppression of free speech. That to me is sad.

MistyCee

@Budwick

- the bottom line of what you have written is that you support the suppression of free speech.

Where did I write that?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@MistyCee

I'm glad that Berkeley is Berkeley and that disputes like this can happen there.

MistyCee

@Budwick Is that really what you got from that?

I'm glad that Berkeley allows student organizations to argue for speech suppression.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@MistyCee

I'm glad that Berkeley allows student organizations to argue for speech suppression

Berkeley and the students are in the United States, where there is a promise of a number of things including freedom of speech. SO, the students and Berkeley are defying the Constitution.

MistyCee

@Budwick As much as I'm tempted to continue with this, I'm really not sure its worth it.

Without doubt, some students and some student organizations at Berkely law school are expressing their freedom to speek by trying to limit other individuals' right to speak.

You didn't give me a frigging cite, and when I googled the terms you mentioned, the first thing I came up with was the Administration saying they didn't necessarily agree with the student organisation's votes on the issue.

The students, frankly, really can't, IMO, "defy the Constitution" because they're not state actors, and, in f-ing fact, the First Amendment says that the State can't deny their right to try speak, including speech about others right to speak.

I don't honestly know what UC's reaction to this is, other than reading a frigging Jewish adminstrator's statement that he's not comfortable with it, but my hope is that, as a public institution, it will allow this debate to go on between the various student organizations, and react, ultimately, in accord with its onw REAL First Amendment obligations as a state entity.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@MistyCee Yeah, it seems like a dead horse to me too.
I think if you had opened with your final paragraph, we could have closed the book on thise much earlier.

MistyCee

@Budwick Mebbe, but check out this link I just got below.

In practice, how the University allocates resources, meeting rooms and funds, to various organizations, remains sort of an open issue.

https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/351854/berkeley-develops-jewish-free-zones/