I’ve noticed less and less women identifying as feminists and I wonder why? It’s sad that something advocating for our rights has somehow lost popularity
@FormerAtheist Basically, feminism is believing in the social, economic, and political equality of the sexes.
I could write a short essay on what being a feminist means and does not mean to [b]me[/b], but after reading your responses here...I won't waste my time.
@Piper True, you can't be doing with being around people with differing opinions to yours. If there was one definite marker of an intelligent mind, then it would be the inability to engage with differing opinions to your own.
It never did advocate for women's rights. When feminism first infected society, its main opposition was women. It tries to destroy women, turn men against women, and make us dependent on the state.
@swirlie [quote/]Wow! I'll bet you voted for Donald Trump last time around as well, huh big guy?!][/quote] Aaaaaaand there we have it! Donald Trump is always mentioned in these types of discussions for some weird reason. It must be TDS. 😂
I have listened to the leaders if the feminist movement, read some of the stuff and decided they do not promote equality but seek female superiority. Misandry is just as awful a thing as misogyny.
There’s the unfortunate habit some people have of "rebranding” certain terms. A [b]feminist[/b] supports the concept of equality ([b]not[/b] supremacy), civil rights and opportunities for girls, women.
It has nothing to do with some of the misandrist ideas that some recent outliers have tried to attach to it.
If a woman doesn’t believe that she and other women deserve equal civil rights, opportunities, and personal autonomy (and sadly some don’t), she’s [b]not[/b] a feminist.
@bijouxbroussard it amazes me how one segment of society keeps changing history to fit their narrative. It all started with the wind bag of the airwaves twisting decades definition othering certain aspects not suited for their social commentary. Really all most modern women wants respect and credit for their work being done. No more no less that is all.
I think that "Feminism" itself has lost its way. I was at College (in England) when Germaine Greer published "The Female Eunuch" which had a huge impact; if I remember correctly it was in "Spare Rib" where the enduring quote "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" originated. Alongside the serious purpose of aiming for equality there was also wry humour. Fast forward from the early 1970s to the 21st Century and what does one see: pioneers like Germaine Greer being denied a platform at many universities because today's sisters don't like what she has to say. [i]Her [/i]message hasn't changed - but so many are too fucking stupid to recognise her wisdom.
IMO, Feminists decided to sleep through the issue of trans males competing in women's sports, and they lost the high ground, and lost every bit of my respect.
It was radical in seeking that, but very badly needed. Naturally, there was pushback from people who did not see the need for equality, both male and female. (Obviously, predominantly male.)
Then feminism seemed to be distracted by some going into a phase of seeking more than equality and the original concept was damaged and seen as a power grab.
I would say many people do not want to be seen as feminists, even though they may work and aim for the original ideals.
They don't want to be distracted from their work, by having to go through the history of what the concept means.
I don't think feminine rights have lost their momentum.
Maybe what you're referring to is what was considered toxic feminism and if it has lost its popularity, good. It was not what female rights was about. Females do not get their rights by taking away rights of men. There is a need to be balanced with all genders feeling safe.
Some people on here are talking how bad and outdated feminism is. Society, as a whole, does that positive discrimination thing to where it is rammed at people....It's a good foothold, but should be no more than that.
Then, somehow, these individuals are having to take flight and be counted on their own merits.
It happened with feminism - some say it's still happening! - and it's happening with gender now (thank goodness!)
Being a feminist shouldn't be seen as treating men as 2nd class citizens, but of us all as equals.
I think identifying as a member of society, of being a human, that's the only way to identify.
Happy, Clappy Christian? Whatever, sweetie...that's the only way the world will truly work.
Don’t be surprised. When you meet a new guy, tell him you’re a feminist and watch how quickly the conversation turns from courting to fighting. Modern feminism is obsessive. It’s more about policing what men say, do, punishing them than advocating for women’s rights. For the sake of pursuing happiness, feminism is weaponizing divorce and child support. It is teaching women how to use emotions and loopholes in the law to crush men. Real feminists don’t need to be loud.
On another note, I too identify as pussy whipped advocate, a sissy rescuer. 😂I defend all men abused in relationships! 🤣😂 Let’s see where that goes.
@eMortal Much of that is [b]not[/b] actual feminism, unfortunately. In the 80s, feminists were on the side of gender equality, not female supremacy. Allowing a child to be awarded to an abusive mother over a competent father does nothing to positively advance the rights of women.
Unfortunately the word “feminist” is seen as a buzz word than an actual movement more and more But the spirit of feminism seems to be only getting stronger luckily
@EarthlingWise Yes one requires thinking things thru in a logical manner and remembering in SOME situations you can draw more flies with honey than with vinegar and the other way is blundering thru a china shop like a bull to get your way with no clue how to get the outcome you want..
@MaBalzEsHari You're talking about some people here, maybe immature people, but personally , I have learnt a lot about bravery and honesty through women that were part of the feminist movement, they were actually very rational, and very caring. Yet before that I had been given the cliché of feminist Furies, and I had been scared into thinking they were dangerous unreliable people.
@Alex51 It isn’t if you understand that living among different people isn’t the same as living [b]as[/b] them, walking in their shoes, experiencing what they may encounter on a day to day basis. It doesn’t matter to [b]you[/b] because it doesn’t have to.
Like BLM, LGBTQ+ and other grassroots movements feminists grassroots have been alienated to mainstream people by an orchestrated effort of an extremist right wing and their media outlets spewing hatred and false narratives around these grassroots movements.
@bijouxbroussard Ukrainen women are free to move around, the men are not, maybe a few women are fighting the good cause. It would probably be the same in any Western country if they were at war
@Justenjoyit True, and women in my country are also beginning to serve in combat conditions. Personally, I don’t think anyone should be [b]forced[/b] to serve, and I’m glad that we have a voluntary military at this time.
It's really loaded now due to polarization, and it can be vaugue because there are many kinds of feminism. And anyway, gender relatations are in the gutter so there is a ton of resentment to go around, and feminism is a popular target, right or wrong.
@Puppycat23 Much of that is [b]not[/b] feminism. Like the term "woke", it meant something very specific at a specific point in time; then other folks came along later and rebranded it.
I share your amazement. I remember the ERA going through the Indiana state legislature in 1972. I acted as a page. My mom was more of a feminist then. She voted for trump lol
