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is there anything more sad than those males who self identify as Male Feminists?

Makes me wonder how they lost all that testosterone. I guess it was when they surgically had their balls removed.
Its the most pathetic way to try to pick up women. Acting like you like everything they do and have the same thoughts.
I will never not be convinced those so called men are not just making fools of themselves for no other reason but to try and pick up women that dont even like them in the first place
I don’t see it that way, I see it as men who have contributed to feminist theory.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@REMsleep i truly hope you are correct in that. I dont really have much faith in that due to personal experience But i will try and take your word for it
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@Torsten Sometimes when relationships get toxic people will do things specifically to hurt you and they will say things specifically to make life worse for you. Don't wallow in it. This makes her win over you and it is the goal.
Many women aren't like that but if you have this bad terrible consuming experience it can definitely encourage you too view everything thru that lense.
There have been numerous pedophiles in my family and friends network( dirty terrible secret). All were men. I also know many girlfriends growing up that got abused as children too by dads, neighbors, stepdads, raped. I feel that it is very common. Sometimes I am very tempted to view all men as sexual devients ready to abuse.
I must rationalize that its not true and I must not wallow in self confirmation of that notion.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@REMsleep i agree with you and for a long time I viewed most women as being as vindictive as my ex. I think that is a normal thing when you go through something like that and hear and see so many cases of women doing that. As time goes on though you tend to see things a bit more like you did before and realize not all women are like that.
I am sorry you had that in your family. I know exactly what that is like because I too have that in my family. On my mothers side its infested with pedophiles and they lived with us as children, so i am sure you can imagine how that went. My parents moved country to get away from it all and start fresh, it was that bad. So i get your feelings on that also and yeah its the same thing. When going through something like that you view everyone else as being like them and its very hard to see things different and trust that people are not all like that
@Torsten according to Norway’s gender equality act, legislation is provided for equal opportunist for men and women.

Article 1 Objectives of the Act

This Act shall promote equal status between the sexes and aims in particular at improving the position of women.

Public authorities shall promote gender equality in all sectors of society.

Women and men shall be given equal opportunities in education, employment and cultural and professional advancement.

Article 2 Subject of the Act

This Act applies to discrimination between men and women in all areas, except for internal conditions within religious communities.

With regard to family life and purely personal matters, this Act is not to be enforced by the authorities mentioned in Art. 10.

In special cases the King may determine that the Act shall not apply, in whole or in part, to certain specific sectors. The opinion of the Board (cf. Art. 10) shall be obtained in such cases.

Article 3 General clause

Differential treatment of women and men is not permitted.

The term "differential treatment" means treatment differentiating between men and women because they are of different sexes. The term also covers treatment which de facto results in an unreasonable disadvantage for one sex compared to the other.

Differential treatment which promotes gender equality in conformity with the objective of this Act, is not in contravention with the first paragraph. This also applies to special rights given to women based on the bioligical differences between the sexes.

The King may issue regulations regarding the kinds of differential treatment which can be accepted pursuant to this Act, including provisions on positive special treatment of men in relation to care for and education of children.

Article 4 Recruitment etc.

A job vacancy must not be advertised as being restricted to one sex unless there is an obvious reason for doing so. Nor must the announcement give the impression that the employer expects or prefers one of the sexes for the position.

In recruitment, promotion, notice to leave or temporary lay-offs of employees, no difference must be made between men and women in contravention with Art. 3.

A job applicant who has not obtained an announced position may require that the employer state in writing the education, experience and other clearly demonstrable qualifications for the position which are possessed by the person of the opposite sex appointed to the job.

If differential treatment of women and men in recruitment, promotion, notice to leave or temporary lay-offs can be established, the employer must substantiate that this is not due to the gender of the applicants or the employees.

Article 5 Equal pay

Women and men employed by the same employer shall have equal pay for work of equal value.

The term "pay" includes ordinary remuneration for work as well as other supplements or cash bonuses, and other benefits given by the employer.

The term "equal pay" means that the pay is to be determined in the same manner for men and women regardless of gender.

If differential treatment regarding wages can be established between men and women performing work of equal value, the employer must substantiate that this is not due to the gender of the employees.

The King may prescribe by regulation what is to be considered the same employer in central and local government service.

Article 6 Education

Women and men shall have equal right to education.

The employer shall consider women and men on equal terms regarding training, further education and in granting leave of absence in connection with education etc.

Regarding admission to courses, schools and studies, and other efforts designed to promote recruitment to a particular trade or profession and when conditions are approximately equal, it will be possible to give priority to one sex if this will help to regulate in the long term any imbalance between the sexes in the trade or profession in question.

If differential treatment relating to circumstances mentioned in the second paragraph of this article can be established, the employer must substantiate that this is not due to the gender of the employees.

Article 7 Teaching aids

In schools and other educational institutions the teaching aids used shall be based on gender equality.

Article 8 Associations

Any association shall be open to women and men on equal terms if

the membership of the association is of importance for the individual memberŽs possibility for work or professional advancement, or
the object of the association is essentially to contribute to a solution to general problems of a social nature.
The injunctions of the first pragraph does not apply to associations where the main object is to promote the interests of one of the sexes.

Article 9 Gender Equality Council

The King shall appoint a Gender Equality Council where the authority and the number of members are to be decided by the Storting at any time.

Article 10 Enforcement of the Act

The King shall appoint a Gender Equality Ombud and a Board - the Gender Equality Board of Appeals - to collaborate in the implementation of this Act. The competence of the Ombud and the Board shall comprise, with the limitations given in the second paragraph of Art. 2, all private enterprise as well as all administrative and commercial activities in the public sector. The Ombud is appointed by the King for six years at a time.

The board shall consist of seven members with personal deputies. Two of the members with deputies shall be appointed at the recommendation of the Norwegian Federation of Trade Unions and the Norwegian EmployerŽs Confederation respectively. The King shall appoint the chairperson and the deputy chairperson, one of whom must possess the qualifications specified for a judge.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@LilithoftheTrees everything is better in Norway btw in my opinion
@Torsten I’m sure it is.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
You: men who are feminists are simps and women get special rights! The wage gap isn't real!

Reality:
Feminism helps everyone including cis men who are harmed by many of the same toxic gender stereotypes as women. Men who are feminists = people who know what's good for them.

People who can get pregnant have had their right to bodily autonomy under attack for ... *checks notes* ... literally all of human history. What special rights are you talking about??

I'll give you that the wage gap is something I don't fully understand and it seems to me like a minimal thing.

However, take into account the expense and physical/emotional toll of having a menstrual cycle. The time and the effort it takes to maintain a body that menstruates is a legit detriment to quality of life. I am speaking from experience. Menstrual products might not be prohibitively expensive, but add the insult of a LUXURY tax to that. People who menstruate are getting nickled and dimed!!

Then there is missed work and if a person with a uterus decides to get pregnant there are tons of expenses there, not just financial but physical and emotional as well. Pregnancy can make you lose your teeth and your hair.

Ths expectations on appearance are insane as well. Yeah, guys have their own toxic appearance culture but holy crap it is NOTHING compared to what women deal with.

Don't even get me started on the pink tax!!!

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBoo most activists are jokes including feminist activists
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Doomflower [quote]the wage gap is something I don't fully understand and it seems to me like a minimal thing.
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The gap is not minimal, not even here in Norway where equality is, theoretically, very good and where the majority of women work.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
@ninalanyon yeah thats why I didn't use definitive language.
Incel-ass post.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBoo yes nothing like a dumb meme to prove you know jack shit
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Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBoo male feminists and their stupid memes. Its hilarious
Elessar · 26-30, M
Still struggling grasping the definition of "feminism" or is this post made just out of sadness because they've just seized Tate's cars (and not released him still)? 🤪
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Torsten Ah no, opposing abortions is suddenly a left of center thing? In which parallel mental universe of yours?

Let me check which are the parties that have anti-abortion agendas. Ops, all of them are far right.
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@Torsten And wonder why 🥴

Yeah, I bet that job is as [i]real[/i] as your ex and kid, you totally give off the vibe of someone who doesn't have time to waste, after 60+ replies 😆

Bye 👋
Torsten · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues well if you wanna stick to my very first comment sure. It aint about feminism though, its about men who identify as male feminists to get laid
@Torsten Now you're not talking about the "other kind" of feminist men, only the ones who say "feminist" to get laid. I'm detecting a "no true Scotsman" fallacy here. And now there are at least two kinds of feminism; perhaps only one is problematic?? Anyway, your stance seems to be shifting and I think I support that. Sorry, gotta run; more later.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues there is two types of feminism. There is what it started as and what it has become.
I said from the very start of this that i dont buy into the shit that those feminist men believe the crap they say they do but its a pathetic attempt to pick up women.
My stance has not shifted, you just dont seem to read my posts correctly
deadgerbil · 22-25
Legitimate reasons exist for supporting feminist causes regardless of someone is a guy or a girl(example being abortion rights) but you're focusing on dudes who are desperate who use the feminist angle in order to try to get laid. You can find dudes who try to be a lot of things, that are equally sad, just to get laid.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BlueVeins my opinions on abortion, isnt changing any womans mind on getting a abortion. They dont consider men as having a say regardless, so my opinion should mean jack all to them
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Torsten That seems overly broad, I tend to think women who say they don't care about men's views on the subject are kinda just a reaction to the whole problem of ignorant politicians regulating their bodies. Most people, regardless of gender, kinda just see people as people, and primarily (though not entirely) consider their opinions as individuals rather than as demographic groups. IDK, there are some people who legit are just misandrists and that sucks, but even that is pretty obviously a result of material conditions created by the exact same diseased gender roles that they're trying to fight.

More importantly though, men's opinions impact them whether they take them seriously or not because men make up half the voting public and control a substantial majority of the world's -- and the country's -- financial resources.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BlueVeins I agree, most women I am sure care somewhat about the fathers thoughts. I get women being annoyed by politicians, and them deciding things like this for sure and I do feel bad for the very small cases of those women who are pregnant due to rape or those who have no other choice but abortions. I am sure its a incredibly hard thing to go through and something i will never understand, But i still have my opinions on abortion in general and what it is that i just cant shake off
RosaMarie · 41-45, F
Tell us you're terrible in bed without telling us you're terrible in bed.
SW-User
Feminists

[quote] an advocate of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes[/quote]

Yea, they’re so sad…imagine wanting your sister or wife or daughter to have equal rights, what losers 🙄

You make these posts and you just come across as a very insecure person!
Torsten · 36-40, M
@SW-User really because you missed the whole point of my post and missed where i explained what feminism has become compared to what it used to be.. keep up
SW-User
@Torsten you’re just an angry little bunny that has an issue with it, it’s honestly kind of embarrassing at this point
Torsten · 36-40, M
@SW-User funny thing is, I aint angry at all.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
Male Feminists = Nancy Boys

Men should act like men, and not go around like a little fairy trying to impress women
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBoo oh so now i am a feminist? well I guess i do care more for actual equality
@Torsten Did you decided on that before or after you had your balls removed?
Torsten · 36-40, M
@BohemianBoo wouldnt you like to know
Yvonne · 22-25, F
Funny how mostly men call you a misogynist in the comments... they must feel called out.
Modern feminism is unhinged and the men supporting it are lost.
Slade · 56-60, M
@Yvonne of course. If women were paid pennies compared to men for "the same work" every business would only employ women.

That trope is painfully and insultingly stupid
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Slade 100% true
Torsten · 36-40, M
@SW-User yes it is
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
I seen on the news yesterday in Canada a male teacher started to go to school wearing women clothes and had on huge fake breast. The report said the school is thinking of changing the teacher dress code. I'm like omfg u are thinking of changing the dress code for teacher's.
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
@Torsten no way I would let my kids go back there even if they fired that teacher.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@smileylovesgaming yeah if they fired the teacher now it would only be due to backlash from parents. Would not want mu kid around faculty that actively support and encourage that
Wizardry · 46-50, M
@smileylovesgaming would imagine that lots of parents would be thinking the same thing. Or change schools
Ontheroad · M
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, soem are one and you are welcome to yours... I'm totally cool with you being wrong.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Ontheroad i wish i was wrong here. Truly i do
Ontheroad · M
@Torsten Like I said, I'm cool with you being wrong.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
toxic feminists are not the same as the movement for wanting equality for women. please Do not lump them all together because of one psycho extremist group.🤣
BlueVeins · 22-25
Feminism also benefits men a lot.
Alison · 18-21, F
Look if I may ask a question what are u trying 2 do in your posts?
1: Im a bored loser and have nothing better to do than upset people.
2: Im gay so upsetting girls doesnt matter to me.
3: Im on a search for other like minded people so I can plan an attack.

I cant think of any other reasons much🤷‍♀️
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Alison or 4: i am bored and saying out loud my thoughts 🤷‍♂️

upsetting girls by making fun of male feminists? how does that work unless you think of male feminists as girls
Alison · 18-21, F
@Torsten girls hate this sort of thing mostly but u do u ig🤷‍♀️
Girls also tend to downgrade "guys with opinions", u do u ig🤷‍♀️
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Alison well its a good thing i aint trying to get with any women here or impress anyone with bullshit and instead just saying what is on my mind. Dont like it, move on else where
Alison · 18-21, F
Real men get laid🤷‍♀️.
Dont get judgey about how they get there.....still getting laid
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Alison ehh it is what it is 🤷‍♂️
@Alison look at you schooling this fat n!gga 🤣🤣😭
Torsten · 36-40, M
Eternity · 26-30, M
I don't shit on other men's game. Thats not cool.

If it works for them and it gets them pussy then by all means brothers get yours. By any means.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Eternity there is no game there. hence why its cool to shit on it haha.
in all honstly though that is like 3rd grade level game where you pretend to like everything your crush likes in the hopes of getting her attention
Eternity · 26-30, M
@Torsten i cant imagine why they would be doing it if it isnt getting them laid. That would be madness.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Eternity because they have no other way of getting a girl. Hell most of the time it doesnt work anyway. No shock there but its more the sad state you would have to be in to resort to that level of desperation
@Torsten there are different types of radical feminism. You live in Norway and according to the info I posted, your gender equality act is very….equal. So the issue is a personal one. So to make blanket statements is risky.
jackieash · 26-30
There is nothing more sad than the "men" who say "You can change your girlfriend but youcan't change the football club you support". If I had a "boyfriend" like that, I'd call that a piece of shit, not a man. For those girls who have a "boyfriend" like that, DUMP THE BASTARD!
Slade · 56-60, M
@jackieash why does it have to be one or the other. And who gives ultimatums like that?
jackieash · 26-30
@Slade Think about it. If you put your football club before your girlfriend, the girlfriend needs to drop you. For her own sake.
Slade · 56-60, M
@jackieash no...shit
I’d say the fact that the fear of many men is a smart girl is sad.
SW-User
I never understood that
Torsten · 36-40, M
@SW-User I never understood how some women fall for it
SW-User
@Torsten yeah ...me either since I prefer men
Torsten · 36-40, M
@SW-User makes sense
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
the feminists who fall for it?
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand oh damn, you make a lot of sense there
RedBaron · M
What an astoundingly dumb, misogynistic post. What is your major malfunction?
Torsten · 36-40, M
@RedBaron i assume this hit a little too close for your liking?
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Torsten · 36-40, M
@RedBaron you sure about that because i forgot bout this comment of yours till just now where you replied.
You think whatever you like and search my profile to comment in other threads as much as you like. it means nothing to me really. Its entertainment to see men get offended by this because its clear i must have been pretty spot on. No reason certain men would get offended with this other wise..

haha oh i have been warned? 🤡
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
I've never heard of these. Are they panty wearers? I've heard of those on SW 🤔
Torsten · 36-40, M
@PhilDeep haha most likely
Carissimi · 70-79, F
They don’t mind being friend zoned. They just hope that one day it will lead to more.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Carissimi yep. That is a good point with them
CestManan · 46-50, F
Some middle-aged male post some BS and it gets 205 responses? You ought to start a YouTube channel or you spat off about this crap and actually make money off of it.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Elessar the reason people post controversial stuff is strictly for attention.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@CestManan Not only that, also feeling like they belong to some "elite" of superior revolutionary thinkers just because they withhold an opinion that isn't shared by the majority. As if that alone made them intelligent, lol, imagine going around claiming the sea is green just to spite and feel better than the remaining 99.999% who claims it's blue.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@CestManan haha what? everyone posts on here for attention. You sound bitter that this got that many replies, yet you have now just contributed to it
We call that simping
Wol62 · 51-55, M
This is a spoof/troll/catfish acc(o)unt right?
REMsleep · 41-45, F
Although rare I assume that there might be some men who describe themselves in that way from an academic perspective not to pick up women.
I think they mean that they support female empowerment.
I am a female that is not even a feminist herself but I don't immediately judge anyone who says that they are because it depends on how they meant it.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
Women deserve equal rights. Men haven’t suffered because women have been gaining rights.

Please try putting yourselves in our shoes. You seem very skewed with your situation over the custody of your son and I can sympathize with that and understand how stressful and terrifying it was to lose your son that way.

Men have not suffered because women have gained rights though and if you see it that way then I don’t know what to say.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@iamonfire696 What have women gained by having 'equal rights'?
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empanadas · 31-35, M
This is a great way to stack up sw coins
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Elessar sure mate, whatever you gotta tell yourself to get off
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Torsten Again going on with your sexual frustration/starvation? I told you, I'm not into you buddy. Go get yourself a date on Gab or Truth perhaps, there must be plenty in the same situation of yours over there 😅
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Elessar sure mate.. wink, wink
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@SW-User And then a remaining 5% posing as "strong men" online while weeping non-stop irl because they're 50+ virgin / incels / mgtow / whatever

 
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