is there anything more sad than those males who self identify as Male Feminists?

@Elessar huh? I know very well what feminism is meant to be and what it has become. You though seem confused. Wtf do people keep bringing up tate to me like i am supposed to know who that is? is he your new trump or some shit?

@Torsten Evidently you don't, it's not the first time I see you setting up this circus, only to be lectured about it each time.

@Elessar nah i do. Its people like you that really have no clue what is going on but think you know everything

@Torsten Weird, because you're describing the vibe you give off. I mean I went through that stage of yours too, so I can say I have some experience, but in my case it ended once I turned 14 thankfully lol

@Elessar no, i described you and others that keep repeating the same shit and denying what feminism has become today

@Torsten There isn't much to [i]deny[/i], I'm [b]asserting [/b]you're clueless about the matter you're trying to speak of, and it's self-evident. There isn't much to discuss about it lol

It's like the rightwing nutjobs who believe anti-fascism is bad / has "aged" badly, while not even knowing what they're speaking of lol.

@Elessar the clueless calling others clueless. Oh the irony there.
haha of course you now try bringing right wing followers into this. How predictable

@Torsten [i]At its core, feminism is the belief in full social, economic, and political equality for women. Feminism largely arose in response to Western traditions that restricted the rights of women, but feminist thought has global manifestations and variations.[/i]

I dunno man, I'll take the definition of the Britannica as more trustable than whatever definition some 36-40M virgin loser on the internet may have in their mind, but feel free to continue to entertain me with your cluelessness lol

@Elessar key words being "at its core". yes feminism is suppost to be about equality despite the name of course meaning something different and what it has turned into today but its nice to look back at the past and see what real feminism actually was

@Torsten You realize that "at its core" means "the foundations of it", and not something that belongs to the past? You know what a "core" (see also: nucleus, kernel) is?

And that if you claim, and I cite, "is there anything more sad than those males who self identify as Male Feminists?" you're literally saying that you believe it's sad that there are men who believe in those values?

[quote]something different and what it has turned into today but its nice to look back at the past and see what real feminism actually was[/quote]
Again, no. Not only you don't know the definition of "feminism", but neither that of "core". 🤦‍♂️

@Elessar oh how you missed the mark yet again.

@Torsten Which one? That you're confused about the meaning of "feminism" or the meaning of "at its core"?

@Elessar that you think core means it can not be twisted and molded to look like something else.
You are in denial for sure and its obvious why. You are the type of male i made this thread about. That is why you are so outraged over this. Its hilarious but also sad

@Torsten "At its core" means the central part of something. If you're still attacking the thing as a whole you're attacking the central part too, unless you specify otherwise (which you didn't). It's simple as that. It's the very same thing of antifascism, right-wing lunatics constantly try to find aspects on the recent most additions to blame the thing as a whole, and you do it with feminism. The one in denial here is you, evidently failing to grasp definitions.

Sure dude, keep projecting your frustrations and insecurities on me all you'll like, it's not me the 36-40M dude making cringy posts on social media because frustrated at the fact women won't f*ck him 😅

@Elessar wow really? yeah no shit. It can still be twisted and warped to look like another thing. As i said Feminism at its start was about real equality, not anymore though and all the proof you need of that is understanding what the wage gap is. That is feminists biggest fight where you are correct? Its always about the wage gap.
Women wanting the same pay as men for doing far less. How is that equality?

@Torsten Again, I'll take the definition of something established (such as the encyclopedia i referenced) over that of a 36-40M loser frustrated at women because they won't get him laid. The definition of said encyclopedia says that, currently, the central part of feminism consists in equality for women. You're either here here complaining about men who believe women should have equality, or you're completely clueless about what feminism is (and feel free to continue to bash your head against the definition as much as you'd like, maybe write an angry letter to the Britannica and see if they change it for you lol).

If there's something "sad" here it's that you're here pushing for an ideology that was considered tired and stale when my [b]grandparents[/b] were young. Wage equality means that women who perform the same job and for the same hours should be rewarded just as much as their male colleagues, what do you find wrong in that?

@Torsten I'm evidently not the bitter one here 😂 I mean last I checked it wasn't me making the post to whine about feminism and the remaining 95% of men who unlike you get laid.

No I use the encyclopedia because you have a problem with definition, simple as. There is no twisting, my initial point is that you're clueless, you've demonstrated it over and over and the encyclopedia definition proving you wrong is plain and simple evidence in support of my claim.

The only complete b*tch here ain't me, again projecting your insecurities and fallacies on others, a typical trait of you far-rightists.

@Elessar really? you come to this thread and all my others crying and complaining all the time and try claiming I am putting my insecurities on you. haha sure mate.

🤣 and here comes the far right nonsense like you and others like you cant help but bring into every conversation

@Torsten You know what's the point of a forum, or should I find an encyclopedia entry also for that? If you make cringe posts I'll enjoy the entertainment deriving from leaving a comment. Suck it, snowflake 😂

Yeah no you repeat 99.999% what they said but you're no, "trust me bro I'm a centrist" /s

@Torsten Dude it's the third time in a row your reply get flagged for cursing and I don't receive a notification, speaking of who's angry and offended 😂

Yeah go have a walk and rethink your life perhaps. Spare me the "99% of what I say coincide with the far-right agenda but trust me I'm a centrist bro" bullcr#p. I've told you, only reason why I've mentioned Musk is to remind you what is needed to "own" me, any less than another $100B won't suffice 😆

@Elessar I aint changing the way i talk to convenience you.
swearing does not automatically make someone angry or offended. Its just words. Maybe go look them up in your encyclopedia haha

My life is great thanks, I dont need to rethink anything. I am not the obsessing over a political party. that is you.
I love how people here try telling me what political side i am on like its a black and white stance. that is small minded thinking

@Torsten Yes bud, totally not offended/outraged 🤣

I doubt, you wouldn't be here making cringeworthy small dìck energy posts if you were 😜

Ah yeah, totally a centrist and not a far-righter