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Family resentment

I was born in Italy, moved to the uk when i was 3, i habe this resentment and hatred towards my mum and dad for having moved to the uk. I cannot stand England and want to move ro Italy so badly, ive missed 30 odd years in Italy that i will go back to sort
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Much as I have issues the UK too, the grass isn't always greener.

Also, having resentment towards your parents for this (at your age) isn't going to help you.
Fluffybull · F
@Burnley123 👏👏👌
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Burnley123 I think it is natural to have resentment towards your parents for leaving the country to were born in. I would understand it if my kids hated me for that whoch is why i would never do it. And also the reason why i cannot just up and leave and go back
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@NeptuneAscending I disagree. I mean, a lot of people (myself included) have spent time blaming parents for fucking them up. After all, their choices do affect your life chances.

However, past a certain age, this just becomes an excuse. Someone who was violently or sexually abused by parents can bear a grudge for life. Otherwise, you need to get over it

Maybe your parents made a mistake but they are humans and they are not supposed to be perfect. You are in your 30s now and have autonomy. Maybe he not perfect autonomy but nobody does.

This bitterness will not help you and has no useful purpose. Tbh, I don't think Italy is that great anyway.
helenS · 36-40, F
Why do you think life in Italy is better than the UK?
Yes the weather is much better, the sun shines even at night, women are beautiful, the food is delicious, the Mediterranean sea is terrific, the cities are to die for, people are lovely, the girls are sexy, but – apart from that, it isn't any better than Britain.
helenS · 36-40, F
@Convivial "Monty Python's Life of Brian"! I love that movie!
SW-User
@helenS


r u sayin that's not sexy?
helenS · 36-40, F
@SW-User Oh I think that's as good as it gets, in the UK 😏
Fairydust · F
They probably did it to give you a better life, once you become an adult, you should take responsibility for your own choices, life decisions, instead of blaming them.
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Fairydust It doesnt matter if i was 1 year old, 5 or 17. I have spenr most of my childhood and summers in Italy with my uncles and aunties, cousins ect, spending around 2 months a time. What i am saying is the culture, the place of the uk has never resonated with me, and ive always felt at home in Italy, why ? Because 99 percent of my family live there, and spent alot of my childhood there.
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Fairydust There is no other deeper issue, maybe maybe because i have a british accent and pisses me off eachtime someone says you are more british than you are Italian, really gets on my nerves, so i giess that is the issue. And then when i go to italy they say im more british than i am Italian and pisses me off even more as that is coming from Italians, i have always wanted to fit in in Italy, and be accepted as an Italian, but i know that can never happen due to growing up in England, and that hurts the most as i am Italian with an Italian passport, speak, write and read Italian fluently,but not good enough because i wasnt raised there, so eachtime they comment on me being to english, the more the hatred goes towards my parents. I guess thats why
Fairydust · F
@NeptuneAscending
You shouldn’t really care what people think of your accent, it’s life and part of who you are.
Life’s too short to dwell on stuff like that, you are Italian and that’s what matters,

My mums Scottish, lived in England from the age of 4, her parents moved, she has an English accent, she’s Scottish, can’t let that define who you are.
You know and that’s all that matters.

It’s all trivial at the end of the day, you don’t want to let it have a negative effect on your life, your kids life, if you feel bitter towards them for moving you. Your kids will pick up in it and that’s not healthy for them.
MrEagle · 41-45, M
Resentment is something you have to learn to let go. There is no reason for that to keep having a hold over you.

And you’re old enough you can just move back.
Fluffybull · F
Perhaps find a more friendly part of England? Not all places are the same. Tbh, you sound as if you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Maybe your attitude has something to do with what you see as others' "resentment"?
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Fluffybull I dont have a chip on my shoulder thats too mildly, i absolutely detest my parents for having to move in the uk, to the point where i have this hatred deep inside me towards them
SW-User
@NeptuneAscending have they explained why they moved?
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@SW-User Their explanation was that my dad, no one else was involved in deciding only my dad thought that the uk had a better way of life and/or jobs ? I have no idea, my mum did not agree to his decision but because of him being the man of the house everyone had to follow him, fuck knows why. He also moved to holland before i was born once with my two brothers and sister, they were under the age of 10, for a year or two that didnt work out, so moved back to italy after, he also went to the uk for the first time, again before i was born with my brothers and sister, they were under the age of 10 again, for a few years and that never worked out and again returned to italy, and the i was born, and when i was around 5 ish, he moved for the third time, and to the uk, thats when we stayed, not only that, but after the move he fucked off back to italy after 20 odd years ?? And said he hated the uk and regrets the move.
Casheyane · F
More will be taken from you if you keep with that resentment. Now that you have the means, choose what matters to you and live a life that makes you feel at peace.

Perhaps your parents have their own reasons and were trying to do their best at the time. I can't say.

But now that you can decide for yourself, it's your life. Take care of who and what matters to you.
SnailTeeth · 36-40
Sometimes we look everywhere for our glasses, and they're right on top of our head.
I think you should move to Italy if that's what your heart craves.
But I think you should first learn to love and accept where you are, or those feelings will just follow you.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@NeptuneAscending You've been an adult since you were 21. Act like one and stop whining about what your parents did. Do what you want to do that will make yourself happy.
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Diotrephes That is just it, i would stop whining about it if i had the chouce to leave my kids in the uk and go, or take them with me. What my parents did was selfish and only thought of themselves, i was young my two older vrothers were in their teens, my mum and my mum and dad had an amazing house near the coast, my dad owned a business and my mum and a job at home, earning in the equivilent of 40 to 50k in 80s money per year, we didnt need to go to shitty uk. Bottom line is they were only thinking of themselvea for whatever reason that may be, because it takes a selfish person to drag 4 kids across europe for a job tjat paid less, sale up the house, and move to a council flat ???. No sense whatsoever, and i understand that now more than ever before, now that i have kids of my own, i could never ever do that unless it ws to better myself or the kids, and if that was the case i woupd move elsewhere in the uk to better the family.
Why did they move? I want to say holding hatred, resentment towards family is much further than from a move from a time you (likely) can't remember especially when it's not like they moved you to a war torn country? If anything, I hear lovely things of Italy, but the economics are terrible, and they were searching a better life? I suggest live life and forgive especially if the only misgiving is moving to a prosperous land.
Barny52 · 56-60, M
Move back you can get a joint passport or just Italian passport
Sroonaka616 · 31-35, M
You are free to leave the UK.
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Sroonaka616 I can yes but that would only make my kids resent me and the cycle continues.
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@neptuneascending] 🤔well you are a grown adult a big boy so basically if you are not happy with your lot you can try and go home and see if if you can make it on your own two feet
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@smiler2012 I would but i have 4 kids in the uk, i cant just get up and go now that i have kids. I have also been making on my own two feet ever since i was 16, 38 now lol.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
What? Why? Aren't there better wages in UK? Why not get a remote job in UK and move to Italy? It's easier than moving from Italy to UK.
@CrazyMusicLover US wages are the lowest in the developed world and costs of living are the highest.
Death, early death is the way we are dealing with this as a nation.
I'm for the USA privatized way - die. Just die.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@Roundandroundwego Why are you talking about US wages?

Besides,
[quote]Minimum wage: $7.25 per hour[/quote] 🤔

It's almost twice as much as minimum wage in my country. And it is considered as developed at this point.
@CrazyMusicLover okay. Nobody cares. Lower is better. The costs of living don't apply. Poverty is great for business and the wars never end, green is an enemy.
Yippie! Kill everything and be a smirking gaslighter. It's okay to be dead.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I empathise with you not liking England. Its small crowded and for most part (apart from the history) has little to commend it. The part I dont understand is why you would want to move back to Italy. same issues, different weather...
SW-User
idk why my family came here either...why couldn't they choose somewhere warm like Florida
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@SW-User Exactly lol, of all the places they picked it had to be shitty UK
Italians understand you, but somehow the line to get back into Italy, for residency or citizenship, never moves. You wait.
ammelee · F
You can make a better life for yourself.
SW-User
Coulda been worse, they coulda moved to [b]MURKA!!![/b]
Disgustedman · 61-69, M
Admit it, you wanna join the mafia!!
revenant · F
They probably had to for work reason
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Can you read Italian?
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
It's because of the fine British cuisine, isn't it?
Human1000 · M
What were they thinking!
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Morvoren · F
@NeptuneAscending It’s not a massive jump is it? To go from Italians to Mario.

Should you be allowed to have kids?
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Morvoren Well my psychiatrist gave me the all clear, i have been clean from drugs and alcohol for a while now, and the asylum have just cleared all my record checks so i am free to leave. So yep i am allowed.
NeptuneAscending · 36-40, M
@Morvoren I do love that picture but my name still aint Mario btw, you really need to put more effort into your banter/jokes, i had those when i was 6 and got bored of them. You look like you are are reaching your late 40s early 50s, come up with better jokes than that come on... 🤣😂 . Ill look foraward to your next jokes darling, try again Morvoren.

 
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